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PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:46 
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Bobbyaro wrote:
Weird phone issue.

My phone keeps dropping off wifi, and when it is connected it is really slow, except immediately after switching it on.

I was d/l a podcast last night, after 30 minutes, it was 30% @2kb/s through, so I restarted, and it shot through to 80% at ~500kb/s then dropped down to 2kb/s again. a restart and it jumped back up and completed the d/l.

Websites fail to load due to timing out, and only half load, and frankly it is annoying. However, evyerthing else works on the wifi, and the phone works on 4g fine.

Anyone have a clue other than full factory reset?


Does it do it on all wi-fi connections? Just to rule out a home router issue for instance

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:47 
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Sadly, it is already set to 'on'. Thanks, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 14:07 
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Try rebooting the router? (I've had this a fair bit with netgear/rebranded netgear stuff)


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 16:08 
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Good point, I shall try that. thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:26 
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Beex! Recommended me a new phone!

I currently have a two year old Xperia Z2, and I'm on a sim only contract, so will be looking to buy something outright, ideally in the £300 sort of area, but maybe a bit more if necessary (research suggests I probably will be).

High points of the Z2 are battery and camera, so I've been concentrating on those areas. I've got a shortlist, but there's something niggling about most of them and I'm open to other suggestions.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:57 
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The OnePlus 3T comes in at £399 (thanks Brexit!) and is pretty much a premium high-end smartphone for less cash than they usually cost in that bracket. (Galaxy S8 will be coming in at £689 (!!), for example.)

Other than that there's basically just a big 'mush' in the £200-£300 range so pick the colour that you like the most, or something.

Or read round-ups like this, I suppose - http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/ ... 7-3627209/

I've got a Samsung J5 '6' as my work phone which is largely the same as my S7 in day-to-day use, despite costing about a third as much.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:02 
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I think a OnePlus 3T is going to be my next phone.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:08 
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What about signing up for a 24 month contract for an iphone

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:09 
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The Nexus 5X and 6P have the same really good camera in them so if you can source once of those they might be a shout? They should certainly be in the right price range by now, having been superceded by the Pixel phones back in September, and my 6P continues to be the best phone I've ever owned.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:11 
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I like the look of the new Nokia 8

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:12 
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I'm slightly disappointed that my LG K8 can't mount apps on the SD card, it means i have limited space and generally if i want a new app i have to kill one off. Otherwise it's one of the better phones I've had. I think you're supposed to be able to root it which means apps can go on SD and also you can delete the bloat but i cant figure out how :(


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:12 
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No wait, it was Nokia 6 that I liked

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:14 
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I'd have been all over an android Nokia if I'd known they existed!


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 10:30 
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Bamba wrote:
my 6P continues to be the best phone I've ever owned.

Really? Mine's deteriorating really fast. The battery life is half what it was, and it just restarts occasionally (say, once per fortnight).

It's still a great phone, but for the fucking stupendous amount it cost it really should be rock solid for at least three years.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:09 
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My rapidly deteriorating 5X is well documented in this thread. Shame. I really liked that phone


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:14 
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My iPhone 6 Plus barely lasted two years before the battery started dying. Premium smartphones are a fucking rip off.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:18 
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Grim... wrote:
Really? Mine's deteriorating really fast. The battery life is half what it was, and it just restarts occasionally (say, once per fortnight).


I haven't noticed much change in the battery life, though my use of Pokemon Go makes it difficult to know how well it should be managing. I haven't noticed it spontaneously restarting either, though I can't imagine I'd give a shit if it only happened once every two weeks.

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It's still a great phone, but for the fucking stupendous amount it cost it really should be rock solid for at least three years.


You and I apparently have different standard for 'fucking stupendous amount'; £550 for a 64GB model is slightly less than I paid for my two previous phones I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:25 
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My rapidly deteriorating 5X is well documented in this thread. Shame. I really liked that phone


I'm still quite happy with mine, but the battery life really is bad, so much that I actually worry about it going flat if I'm out all day and evening. It also has a couple of annoying bugs, sometimes it'll just conk out, fully unresponsive unless I reset it using the magic 30 secs of holding power+vol down. If that happened while I was really needing the phone it'd be a real pisser.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I too like the looks of that Nokia 6.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:33 
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The Exploding Kittens android app is 10p at the moment. I know this was a popular Kickstarter thing run by the guy behind The Oatmeal site, so I've bought the app despite it being a multiplayer card game thing and I don't really do multiplayer.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:49 
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Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It's still a great phone, but for the fucking stupendous amount it cost it really should be rock solid for at least three years.

You and I apparently have different standard for 'fucking stupendous amount'; £550 for a 64GB model is slightly less than I paid for my two previous phones I believe.

I wish I were rich like you.

But it is a lot of money when the Nexus 5 cost 25p (I think, I can't quite remember) and looks like it'll last until the heat death of the universe.

(Or "three years" because Google don't do security updates for it any more, but that's a different conversation).

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:51 
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I paid $100 for my Nexus 5 early last year and it is holding up very well.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:53 
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The lack of active support would worry me, but it's only been a few months, I guess (it ended in December).

As a chunk of tin, though, it's a great little device.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 13:04 
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Grim... wrote:
But it is a lot of money when the Nexus 5 cost 25p (I think, I can't quite remember) and looks like it'll last until the heat death of the universe.


I don't really understand your reasoning here. The N5 was two generations of Nexus before that and Google have been blatantly upping the spec, and thus the price, as time went on so it doesn't really mean anything to directly compare them. You can buy plenty of Android handsets that cost less than the 6P, that doesn't instantly mean it's over-priced. And talking about how long the N5 will 'last' isn't specific enough to respond to really.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 13:36 
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Bamba wrote:
Grim... wrote:
But it is a lot of money when the Nexus 5 cost 25p (I think, I can't quite remember) and looks like it'll last until the heat death of the universe.

The N5 was two generations of Nexus before that and Google have been blatantly upping the spec, and thus the price, as time went on.

I don't think that's true. I mean, obviously the spec has gone up, but I'd argue the Nexus 5 was as well-specced (compared to it's higher-end competitors at the time) as the 6p was.

I guess we could dig up the Sammy Galaxy and iPhone specs of the time, but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 13:38 
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What I'm really saying, however, is that I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a £650 device to last more than two years.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Grim... wrote:
I don't think that's true. I mean, obviously the spec has gone up, but I'd argue the Nexus 5 was as well-specced (compared to it's higher-end competitors at the time) as the 6p was.

I guess we could dig up the Sammy Galaxy and iPhone specs of the time, but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader ;)


I had it in my head that the N5 was of lower spec in some areas than the 'proper' flagships of the time but checking the Engadget review doesn't back that up so it seems I'm talking pish there. the camera in Nexus devices did always lag behind in terms of quality until the N6P/5X but that's not going to justify a couple of extra hundred quid on the price of course.

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What I'm really saying, however, is that I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a £650 device to last more than two years.


I absolutely agree with that, but your only real complaint with the phone is a restart every two weeks I'd argue it has lasted. Your battery life's taken a hit as you mention but wouldn't that have happened with any phone using the same battery tech (which they all are) and seeing the same usage pattern? The only real solution to that is a new battery but as the entire industry, pretty much, has moved to non-removable batteries Google certainly isn't being any worse than anyone else in that regard.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I need two new phones so I can test this.

I'll set up a kickstarter.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 14:15 
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Related article (which I haven't read so it may be crap): http://www.androidauthority.com/phones- ... ve-762053/

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Grim... wrote:
Related article (which I haven't read so it may be crap): http://www.androidauthority.com/phones- ... ve-762053/


I haven't read it either but I sort of agree with the premise. The N6P I was happy with for it's price, but what would've usually been my next upgrade (the Pixel phones) and the only other handset that's caught my eye recently (the Samsung 8+) are expensive enough that I'm absolutely not going to bother. The version of both of these that I'd be in the market for are north of £800 and that can get to fuck.


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