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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2016 7:59 
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Hearthly a few questions if I may. The Oppo has been sent RMSD today and I will have it on Tuesday. I've already prepared myself by downloading a couple of versions of Oppo's Color OS (based on Lollipop it comes stock with Jellybean) but was wanting to do what you did to your Samsung and "go all Google".

Can you tell me what Google apps you use please? Inc which browser you use. No offence but it seems you've done all the spade work :)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Oh shit yes sorry JC I binned off the Samsung browser for Chrome, but that's kind of a gimme I'd have thought :)

I run Chrome on everything (phone, Chromebook, Shield, all PCs/laptops etc) so that I'm signed in to everything all the time. Stuff like shared browsing histories over devices and whatnot is dead useful.


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I wish Chrome for iOS was a little better. It's better than Safari, but not as good as it is on every other platform I've used it on.


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I agree with Lewie. It seems really, really slow on my ipad.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Hearthly a few questions if I may. The Oppo has been sent RMSD today and I will have it on Tuesday. I've already prepared myself by downloading a couple of versions of Oppo's Color OS (based on Lollipop it comes stock with Jellybean) but was wanting to do what you did to your Samsung and "go all Google".

Can you tell me what Google apps you use please? Inc which browser you use. No offence but it seems you've done all the spade work :)

Cheers.


Google make Chrome, if you want to go Google for your browser then use Chrome. I'm a bit surprised you didn't know that to be honest.


Yeah of course I knew that :D I just wondered if there was something better that would be better to use :) Obviously not :D

Cheers Hearth, will get onto that when the phone arrives.

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Aye see normally that thing would piss me off but the Oppo can fully charge in an hour and charge to 75% in about 30 minutes.... It's got a seriously brutal charger. So hopefully I will only need to use it once a day :)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Got the phone early this morning. It came with Android 4.1 on it as stock. Now during me placing the order and doing my research I found out that I had two options. One was to install the very latest Color OS (which is based on Android 5.0) or, to install what Oppo call "Project Spectrum" which is a standard 5.1.1. I decided on the latter and tried to install it using Oppo's instructions. However, when I tried that it would get to a certain point and say "Installation failed". At which point I would then have to hard reset the phone and let it restore back to 4.1 which took ages.

In the end I went into the phone and installed two updates from Oppo which put me on 4.3, then the flash to 5.1.1 worked.

What saved me some time was that the phone automatically detected my 'droid console and so all of my apps were ready to be installed in one chunk :)

So I'm very happy with the phone. Hopefully later my VR headset will arrive :)

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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What saved me some time was that the phone automatically detected my 'droid console and so all of my apps were ready to be installed in one chunk :)
The phone didn't do that, Play did.


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What saved me some time was that the phone automatically detected my 'droid console and so all of my apps were ready to be installed in one chunk :)
The phone didn't do that, Play did.

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What saved me some time was that the phone automatically detected my 'droid console and so all of my apps were ready to be installed in one chunk :)
The phone didn't do that, Play did.

It can do things like this, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Despite the name, that's nothing to do with Play.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Yes. Yes, it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Nothing to do with Android but I particularly enjoy the new error messages that Microsoft seem to have adopted.

"Something went wrong. Please try again."


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Nothing to do with Android but I particularly enjoy the new error messages that Microsoft seem to have adopted.

"Something went wrong. Please try again."


This seems a particularly random thread to have posted that in.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Well it's on theme with "Something went wrong with Android Play services", I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Well it's on theme with "Something went wrong with Android Play services", I guess.


What's Microsoft got to do with Android Play services?

Not that this matter in the slightest I realise, but I am quite bored in my defence.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Had a bit of an issue last night where I was not able to change my ring tone without Google services crashing. Turns out I stumbled across one of the only bugs. The fix was simple, just install a free app called ES File Explorer and it sorts it out. I can now change ringtones.

My Cardboard headset came today (it's this one here)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01 ... UTF8&psc=1

And in the ten minutes or so I had to play with it I got it running OK. I did not use an app to line up the phone properly and so on and I can't control anything yet (need to order a mouse thing) but it seems to be pretty cool. Kinda like 3Dvision on your head. It's a good thing I ordered a fully adjustable cardboard gadget because I had to fine tune it for my eyes. Works pretty well though, but a quick tip, make sure you clean your phone screen first as even the tiniest spec of dust becomes a black square lol.

The one thing I am absolutely loving about the Oppo is the quality of the screen. It's absolutely epic. Being a "proper" shaped and sized phone it's also miles beyond my Blackberry for watching TV etc. The Blackberry has a square screen, so simply ran Youtube in widescreen with massive bars across the top and bottom. I think I prefer the Blackberry for browsing forums though because its width means you don't need to zoom in at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Well it's on theme with "Something went wrong with Android Play services", I guess.


What's Microsoft got to do with Android Play services?

Not that this matter in the slightest I realise, but I am quite bored in my defence.



You realise that the commonality doesn't have to be the vendor, right?

If in this thread someone said 'my Nexus 10 blew up" and somebody else replied with "my iPhone blew up last week too!" it would be completely on topic. In this context, the commonality is "mobile devices saying 'something went wrong' in lieu of a decent error message". It's perfectly relevant.

Wait - you realise that TheVision's message was a response to the image that Grim... posted, right?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Wait - you realise that TheVision's message was a response to the image that Grim... posted, right?


I do indeed, it just seemed something that was very specific to MS stuff so, if it was me, I'd have posted it elsewhere. That's just me though.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I can't control anything yet (need to order a mouse thing)


This is app specific; some apps want a separate physical controller and some don't. I can rarely be arsed plugging my PS4 pad into the phone so mostly just don't bother with apps that require a controller.


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I can't control anything yet (need to order a mouse thing)


This is app specific; some apps want a separate physical controller and some don't. I can rarely be arsed plugging my PS4 pad into the phone so mostly just don't bother with apps that require a controller.


I tried using my Razer Serval and my MadCatz CTRLER or whatever the fuck stupid name they gave it but neither allowed me to start anything. Actually no, that's not quite right. The CTRLR allowed me to do it in mouse mode but only works over the OTG adapter which wouldn't be much of a problem if it weren't for the fact that as soon as you load a VR app the phone gets red hot and chomps through battery like nothing. So ideally I need the OTG port open so I can charge it whilst I'm messing around and get a small mouse type controller for starting everything :)

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Bamba wrote:
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Wait - you realise that TheVision's message was a response to the image that Grim... posted, right?


I do indeed, it just seemed something that was very specific to MS stuff so, if it was me, I'd have posted it elsewhere. That's just me though.


I guess the thought process was: ooh that error remind me of a similar error I had on a different topic, I'll post a reply mentioning it in the thread I just read it in, but as it's not strictly related to the topic in hand, I'll mention that, so everyone realises that I am aware it's not the same thing, shall I bother posting? Because if this post hadn't of come up, I probably wouldn't mention it, but seeing as it has, I may as well.

either that or: If I post this, it will get right on Bamba's nervers, and there is nothing I like better than getting on Bamba's nerves.

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Some bugger has swiped my bin! The bugger.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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So, I'm choosing between a 6P and S7 Edge.

Given the S7 has wireless charging (haha) and expandable storage, is there a strong reason to get the 6P (other than price)? Because I've found deals that don't work out wildly differently in terms of cost.

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The argument 'for' the 6P is vanilla Android and the timely upgrades that come with it so it depends whether you're bothered by that or not. Traditionally the Samsung would've packed a better camera but the 6P's is massively better than previous Nexii so I don't know if that's still true or not. Those factors aside there's no reason not to strongly consider the S7 if price isn't a thing.


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Nexuses.

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I wonder if you could submerge the S7 in water and wirelessly charge it at the same time?


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Hearthly wrote:
I wonder if you could submerge the S7 in water and wirelessly charge it at the same time?


Is the other bit in or out of the water?

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I wonder if you could submerge the S7 in water and wirelessly charge it at the same time?


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Wait - you realise that TheVision's message was a response to the image that Grim... posted, right?


I do indeed, it just seemed something that was very specific to MS stuff so, if it was me, I'd have posted it elsewhere. That's just me though.


I guess the thought process was: ooh that error remind me of a similar error I had on a different topic, I'll post a reply mentioning it in the thread I just read it in, but as it's not strictly related to the topic in hand, I'll mention that, so everyone realises that I am aware it's not the same thing, shall I bother posting? Because if this post hadn't of come up, I probably wouldn't mention it, but seeing as it has, I may as well.

either that or: If I post this, it will get right on Bamba's nervers, and there is nothing I like better than getting on Bamba's nerves.


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Depending on how loud you like your music.


Oo good call. Not tried my Oppo for sound yet but it was one of the reasons I chose it. It has something called Maxxaudio too which is also supposed to be pretty cool.

Oppo give you a proper set of their own branded in ears worth £30 or so too which is nice.

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I wonder if you could submerge the S7 in water and wirelessly charge it at the same time?


Is the other bit in or out of the water?


You could put the wireless charger in a plastic food bag (or something similar) and have the top of the bag above the waterline so the charger itself doesn't get wet, and then press the phone against the charging pad underwater.

I think it would work.

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I wonder if you could submerge the S7 in water and wirelessly charge it at the same time?


Is the other bit in or out of the water?


You could put the wireless charger in a plastic food bag (or something similar) and have the top of the bag above the waterline so the charger itself doesn't get wet, and then press the phone against the charging pad underwater.

I think it would work.

Clearly I am not going to try this with my own phone though.


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Bamba wrote:
The argument 'for' the 6P is vanilla Android and the timely upgrades that come with it so it depends whether you're bothered by that or not. Traditionally the Samsung would've packed a better camera but the 6P's is massively better than previous Nexii so I don't know if that's still true or not. Those factors aside there's no reason not to strongly consider the S7 if price isn't a thing.


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I think it would work.
Clearly I am not going to try this with my own phone though.

Oh, don't worry - someone already did. YouTube


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Only the power of the S7 makes it possible. In your face Nexus 6P with your timely Android updates.

The ability to charge the phone wirelessly whilst underwater was actually a primary purchasing consideration for me as at the weekends I'm a mermaid called Havfrue who Facebooks a lot.


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Nexuses.

Nexuces

As you can probably imagine, this comes up in work a lot, and we have numerous actual latin speakers because of course we do. Apparently it's "Nexuses" for sure.


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Doesn't follow the example of Apple, then?


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Nexuses.

Nexuces

As you can probably imagine, this comes up in work a lot, and we have numerous actual latin speakers because of course we do. Apparently it's "Nexuses" for sure.


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So I just tested the audio on the phone and was very impressed. The headphones sound delightful.

OK, so what's the deal with these Cyanogen mods or whatever they are called? apparently there's a Marshmallow one for my phone. It talks about ADB and other stuff that sounds complicated though. Has any one here used these mods and had any success?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod

It's not a mod despite the name, it's a full replacement OS using the open source version of Android as a basis but with their own tweaks and features built in. They're perfectly legit operating system builds, though the level of support you're going to get for your model of phone will depend how much of a community exists for it. I put a version of it on a shitty old temp phone I've got so I could move more stuff onto the SD card and it all went fine. You will need to do an amount of fucking around with utilities at the command line so it's up to you whether you're comfortable doing it. If you're happy with the phone and what it does right now then personally I'd leave well enough alone.


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Having just had a look at Marshmallow on Youtube I must admit I was kinda underwhelmed. It really doesn't look any different to Lollipop.

I think I will leave well alone. No point in risking it yet.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CyanogenMod

It's not a mod despite the name,
Cyanogen (the company) also have a product that allows Android devs to write apps that deeply integrate with the company's operating system, which is called Cyanogen OS, which is not the same thing as CyanogenMod. This product is called... MOD. So Cyanogen's MOD is not the same thing as CyanogenMod, and Cyanogen's MOD runs on Cyanogen OS but not CyanogenMod.

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My Android fun continues !

Two days ago MrsJC's tablet started acting funny. It's a Galaxy Tab 4 10". I tried to tell her that it could probably be fixed cheaply but she got herself into a panic and bought a Ipad Air 2. She's had the Tab 4 for around two years (just over so out of warranty) and the battery logo appears and the screen starts flashing after about ten seconds. I did some research and there are a couple of fixes. The first is to unplug and reseat the connector. Apparently if it still flashes after that it needs a new battery and the one in there does look a bit bloated so I ordered one of those (£6 genuine Samsung) and whilst I'm there I will replace the charging port as it's a bit floppy. That was £4.

If I can get it fixed I will wipe it and give it to Mum, who has fallen in love with the little Amazon tablet we gave her last year :) if it's too heavy for her I will try playing with Cyanogen :D

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