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Author:  Grim... [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 14:40 ]
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Obligatory:


Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 14:44 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Gaywood has something like that. It's pretty good.

It's not like that; it is that.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 14:57 ]
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Trooper wrote:
The Nexus Player is missing a lot of apps apparently. No iplayer, no spotify, etc... I'm sure they will come in time, but other options already have them.
This is true, and yes, they are likely to come in time. The U.S. Play Store is filling out with TV support and the UK one will now that the devices are officially available here. Don't forget the Nexus Player runs the same software as 2015 TVs from Philips, Sony, and Sharp, as well as the nVidia streaming box and various other similar STBs (some French cable firms are using it for their 4K boxes), so there'll be a viable market there to attract developers to tune their existing Android apps to leanback interfaces.

Hearthly wrote:
I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)

You use a keyboard and a mouse to control media playback? lol. So did I. In 1999.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 14:58 ]
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Gah. Weak. Ordered one.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:00 ]
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FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone off Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:00 ]
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In other, entirely unrelated news...

Would anyone like to buy an Acer Revo R3700 for £79 (plus shipping?)

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:06 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:10 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.

Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:21 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless), which is at least three moving parts too many. So the iMac is asleep and doesn't wake up, or the Plex server has decided to throw a fit, or the Mac has lost its network shares to the NAS, or some other random thing doesn't work and now I'm not watching TV but instead I'm getting up to go to the other room and poke the iMac. Boring.


Grim... wrote:
Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.
Yes, that's true, and also true of the Roku, Apple TV, and others of course. I have no idea if Amazon will prioritise its own devices or the reach of its video service.

Edit - apparently it is on the Roku.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:40 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless), which is at least three moving parts too many. So the iMac is asleep and doesn't wake up, or the Plex server has decided to throw a fit, or the Mac has lost its network shares to the NAS, or some other random thing doesn't work and now I'm not watching TV but instead I'm getting up to go to the other room and poke the iMac. Boring.



I have exactly the same setup, I solved all those problems by never letting my Mac sleep :D The screen goes off, but it's always on.
Not the most power efficient solution, I'll grant you ;)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:47 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I have exactly the same setup, I solved all those problems by never letting my Mac sleep :D The screen goes off, but it's always on.
Not the most power efficient solution, I'll grant you ;)

Power efficiency, long term reliability (of a machine I can't easily get into to swap parts around), and the fact that people occasionally sleep in that room are all reasons I don't want to do that.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:51 ]
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Just stream straight from Grim...'s house. Problem solved

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 15:54 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Just stream straight from Grim...'s house. Problem solved

Until he deletes the show you're watching while you watch it.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 16:03 ]
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Yeah, I did that. I got it back for you, though.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 16:08 ]
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TOO LATE

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 16:36 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless)

At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 16:42 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless)

At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?


If it's anything like me, the NAS is connected to a router, but the plex server software is on the iMac.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 16:49 ]
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GazChap wrote:
At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?
I wasn't clear, the NAS is on the router. It's actually:

Living room: router -> everything under the telly via ethernet, including the NAS (except for Nexus Player which is on wifi because it doesn't have an ethernet port.)

Bedroom: iMac, on wireless; printer, on an old/slow powerline ethernet adapter.

I'm constrained by the flat layout. In my old house, I had a utility room where the NAS and router lived.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 17:18 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.

Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.

Reading around, with a tiny bit of work (and a visit to http://www.apkmirror.com/) you can get the tablet versions of the Amazon Apps.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 19:04 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Gah. Weak. Ordered one.

It's shipped already

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 19:32 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Cras wrote:
Potentially off topic, but happily watched some Two Broke Girls last night. See, now I was always 100% Max, but with the new series new hair, I reckon Caroline's back in play.

It's an improvement, but I'm still all about Max.


10 :this:
20 goto 10

Author:  Cras [ Fri Mar 27, 2015 21:24 ]
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Agreed, but Caroline is now at least not a waste of screen space.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 9:57 ]
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It came. That was quick. Small box, too.

( :hat: )

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Author:  Bamba [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:11 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
It came. That was quick.


Name of your sex tape.

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:20 ]
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I bet it won't have all the functionality of a media centre PC, which you can get for free.

Author:  Bamba [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:31 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I bet it won't have all the functionality of a media centre PC, which you can get for free.


:D

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 10:58 ]
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I'm genuinely impressed. Within 10 minutes or opening the box, I was connected to the Work WiFi (which is miracle in itself) and logged into my 2-step verified google account. I've installed and configured Plex and even managed to get a web browser and Google Drive on there with minimal faff. Later, I will plug in my USB hub and see if I can use the Harmony Remote.

Happy.

Now, I'd better get some work done...

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:02 ]
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Also...

Hearthly wrote:
I bet it won't have all the functionality of a media centre PC, which you can get for free.


I love you, man.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:38 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I bet it won't have all the functionality of a media centre PC, which you already had!


FTFY

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Mar 30, 2015 22:29 ]
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I love it. Can't get the Harmony working though. Sleep on it.

Author:  Trousers [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:45 ]
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The latest S5 update brings back the Mute function. Huzzah!
And it has also stopped mine running like a 1 legged dog through treacle. Double Huzzah!

Just need to see what the battery usage is like but so far so good.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 8:51 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
I bet it won't have all the functionality of a media centre PC, which you can get for free.


Free PCs where?

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:02 ]
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Nexus Player update! It's quite good.

Plex works as well as Plex ever does. Netflix is flawless (and works with unblock.us). I have SNES and Mega Drive Emulators installed and a wired 360 controller attached. Best emulator experience I've ever had.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:23 ]
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Oh shit - I'd not considered emulation.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 9:41 ]
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I reckon a Bluetooth controller would make it even better. I think the ps3 controller syncs up pretty easily

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:20 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I reckon a Bluetooth controller would make it even better. I think the ps3 controller syncs up pretty easily


You know there's a dedicated controller available for it yeah?

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:26 ]
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Yes, but for many the PS3 controller will be 'free'. Just like my 360 controller being 'free'.

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:39 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Yes, but for many the PS3 controller will be 'free'. Just like my 360 controller being 'free'.


Yeah, course, I was just mentioning it in case you weren't aware. :) It's worth being aware though that using a PS3/4 controller wirelessly with Android requires that your device is rooted and it looks to be quite the faf to do.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:45 ]
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I think Android supports it now, and has done for a while.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:47 ]
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Ah, some do, some don't. There's an app to find out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... cker&hl=en

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:51 ]
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And that app disagrees. Well, I don't know now.

Author:  Bamba [ Tue Apr 14, 2015 10:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Ah, some do, some don't. There's an app to find out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... cker&hl=en


But root is always required.

Author:  RuySan [ Wed Apr 15, 2015 0:35 ]
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Did anyone tried the Asus Zenfone 5?

I need a new phone but 200€ is my absolute maximum.

Author:  Achilles [ Thu Apr 30, 2015 1:30 ]
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..........................................

Author:  Trousers [ Tue May 12, 2015 15:49 ]
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I am now the proud owner of a Hudl2. Cost me £45 once I had used my ClubCard boost.

It's a bit chunky compared to the Mrs' iPad Mini but the screen is sharp and the interface (I use Nova Launcher) at least as responsive as my S5.

Battery seems to be a bit demanding but so far for £45 it's an absolute steal.

Author:  Hearthly [ Tue May 12, 2015 16:05 ]
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I bet that'd run Hearthstone very nicely.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue May 12, 2015 16:07 ]
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Trousers wrote:
I am now the proud owner of a Hudl2. Cost me £45 once I had used my ClubCard boost.

It's a bit chunky compared to the Mrs' iPad Mini but the screen is sharp and the interface (I use Nova Launcher) at least as responsive as my S5.

Battery seems to be a bit demanding but so far for £45 it's an absolute steal.

Yeah, the battery is the weak point, but even at full price it's a good little tablet for the money.

Author:  Bamba [ Sun May 17, 2015 20:04 ]
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Bug report for the Doc. Instead of being in my mate's car today getting a lift to Heathrow, Google Maps was convinced we were actually driving the Saatchi Gallery up the M3. :DD

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sun May 17, 2015 20:09 ]
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Heh. You should have Shaken To Send Feedback; that generates a much better bug report than I can after the fact.

Author:  Cras [ Sun May 17, 2015 21:07 ]
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Brilliant!

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