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Anyone who, like me, was slightly annoyed by the removal of the refresh button from the nav bar in the phone version of Chrome might be pleased to know that the most recent update has added a 'pull down to refresh' feature that's very useful.


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If google is backing up the photos from my phone, can I delete them all?

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If google is backing up the photos from my phone, can I delete them all?

From your phone? Yes. But check they've backed up first.

And back them up to your computer also.


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If google is backing up the photos from my phone, can I delete them all?

From your phone? Yes. But check they've backed up first.

And back them up to your computer also.


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Last year's auto-hoffsome April fools thing was brilliant, where it backed up a photo then stuck a photobombing Hoff in it. I then saved the photo to my phone, where of course it backed up the photo and immediately stuck another Hoff in it....

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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If I delete a photo from my tablet using the Photos app it warns me that it'll be deleted from all location when I do it so I'd be wary here.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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The Nexus Player is out in the UK now

http://www.google.co.uk/nexus/player/

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Want. Can't justify the expense.


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Gaywood has something like that. It's pretty good.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Wow, that looks..... Pointless.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Wow, that looks..... Pointless.

Why? It's basically Chromecast +. If you have a lot of Google stuff (or a plex server) then it's ideal.


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Not really, a Roku will do more for cheaper, so will the Amazon Fire Stick.
The Nexus Player is missing a lot of apps apparently. No iplayer, no spotify, etc... I'm sure they will come in time, but other options already have them.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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DavPaz wrote:
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Wow, that looks..... Pointless.

Why? It's basically Chromecast +. If you have a lot of Google stuff (or a plex server) then it's ideal.


I've never seen any of these little box things come close to the functionality of a cheap media centre PC.

I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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It's £80 and you use a remote. Like a TV.

A laptop isn't £80 and doesn't have a remote. It isn't like a TV.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)


Seriously? Did any of your 'comparison' machines cost anything like £80?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Right? I've got a £30 dongle stuck in the back of my TV. It plays stuff off my media server, Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, and a massive amount of other things. What exactly am I missing that would justify buying even a 'cheap' laptop instead?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Bamba wrote:
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I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)


Seriously? Did any of your 'comparison' machines cost anything like £80?

:belm:


Well they were basically free, since they were just reprovisioned old machines that would have gone to the tip otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Right? I've got a £30 dongle stuck in the back of my TV. It plays stuff off my media server, Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, and a massive amount of other things. What exactly am I missing that would justify buying even a 'cheap' laptop instead?

What are you missing that would require you to buy the Nexus player?

Also, hearthly, that is not free.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I'm not, so I wouldn't. But saying the nexus player is pointless because it's not a £300+ laptop is a ludicrous comparison.

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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I'm looking at getting one to *replace* a (an?) HTPC, amusingly. The PC that I've got can't do hardware accelleration on HTML5 or flash video. Which is shit.

My plan was: powered USB hub into an OTG cable, into the micro USB. My wireless keyboard/mouse will go into that with a USB IR receiver so I can use the Logitech Harmony remote. As long as I can get a RDC app, it'll be perfect.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Hearthly wrote:
Bamba wrote:
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I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)


Seriously? Did any of your 'comparison' machines cost anything like £80?

:belm:


Well they were basically hundreds of pounds, since that's what they actually cost me to buy.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Yeah, you can't say a device is pointless because you happened to have a much more expensive device lying around that you weren't using.

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Buying hammers is so fucking pointless; I've got a perfectly good TV I can use to bang nails into a wall.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Bamba wrote:
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I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)


Seriously? Did any of your 'comparison' machines cost anything like £80?

Mine was free ;)

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Right? I've got a £30 dongle stuck in the back of my TV. It plays stuff off my media server, Netflix, Amazon, Youtube, and a massive amount of other things. What exactly am I missing that would justify buying even a 'cheap' laptop instead?

You don't need one because you use mine :D

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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My £39 dongle lets me play stuff off Grim...'s laptop, even!! From 150 miles away!

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Hey, wait - does your Chromecast still play okay?

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Yeah, it works fine

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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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Potentially off topic, but happily watched some Two Broke Girls last night. See, now I was always 100% Max, but with the new series new hair, I reckon Caroline's back in play.

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Potentially off topic, but happily watched some Two Broke Girls last night. See, now I was always 100% Max, but with the new series new hair, I reckon Caroline's back in play.


I thought she was looking older.

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Potentially off topic, but happily watched some Two Broke Girls last night. See, now I was always 100% Max, but with the new series new hair, I reckon Caroline's back in play.

It's an improvement, but I'm still all about Max.

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Gaywood has something like that. It's pretty good.

It's not like that; it is that.


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 Post subject: Re: Google Android
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The Nexus Player is missing a lot of apps apparently. No iplayer, no spotify, etc... I'm sure they will come in time, but other options already have them.
This is true, and yes, they are likely to come in time. The U.S. Play Store is filling out with TV support and the UK one will now that the devices are officially available here. Don't forget the Nexus Player runs the same software as 2015 TVs from Philips, Sony, and Sharp, as well as the nVidia streaming box and various other similar STBs (some French cable firms are using it for their 4K boxes), so there'll be a viable market there to attract developers to tune their existing Android apps to leanback interfaces.

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I mean, our bedroom 'media centre PC' is just Mrs Hearthly's old laptop connected to a big telly via HDMI, and comes with all the functionality of a full Windows PC. (And the kitchen 'media centre PC' is an ancient Samsung laptop with a monitor sat on top of it and a wireless keyboard and mouse. IIRC that laptop must be six years old or more now.)

You use a keyboard and a mouse to control media playback? lol. So did I. In 1999.


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Gah. Weak. Ordered one.


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FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone off Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.


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In other, entirely unrelated news...

Would anyone like to buy an Acer Revo R3700 for £79 (plus shipping?)


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(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?


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FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.

Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.

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(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless), which is at least three moving parts too many. So the iMac is asleep and doesn't wake up, or the Plex server has decided to throw a fit, or the Mac has lost its network shares to the NAS, or some other random thing doesn't work and now I'm not watching TV but instead I'm getting up to go to the other room and poke the iMac. Boring.


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Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.
Yes, that's true, and also true of the Roku, Apple TV, and others of course. I have no idea if Amazon will prioritise its own devices or the reach of its video service.

Edit - apparently it is on the Roku.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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(I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.)

Elaborate?
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless), which is at least three moving parts too many. So the iMac is asleep and doesn't wake up, or the Plex server has decided to throw a fit, or the Mac has lost its network shares to the NAS, or some other random thing doesn't work and now I'm not watching TV but instead I'm getting up to go to the other room and poke the iMac. Boring.



I have exactly the same setup, I solved all those problems by never letting my Mac sleep :D The screen goes off, but it's always on.
Not the most power efficient solution, I'll grant you ;)


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I have exactly the same setup, I solved all those problems by never letting my Mac sleep :D The screen goes off, but it's always on.
Not the most power efficient solution, I'll grant you ;)

Power efficiency, long term reliability (of a machine I can't easily get into to swap parts around), and the fact that people occasionally sleep in that room are all reasons I don't want to do that.


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Just stream straight from Grim...'s house. Problem solved


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Just stream straight from Grim...'s house. Problem solved

Until he deletes the show you're watching while you watch it.


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Yeah, I did that. I got it back for you, though.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless)

At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I have NAS->iMac (wireless)->Plex client (wireless)

At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?


If it's anything like me, the NAS is connected to a router, but the plex server software is on the iMac.


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At the risk of sounding ignorant, is there a reason you have the NAS plugged into your iMac as opposed to a router?
I wasn't clear, the NAS is on the router. It's actually:

Living room: router -> everything under the telly via ethernet, including the NAS (except for Nexus Player which is on wifi because it doesn't have an ethernet port.)

Bedroom: iMac, on wireless; printer, on an old/slow powerline ethernet adapter.

I'm constrained by the flat layout. In my old house, I had a utility room where the NAS and router lived.


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
FWIW, I'm very happy with mine running either Plex or Kodi. (I've gone of Plex entirely, but for unrelated reasons.) obviously it's also very good at Netflix, YouTube, and Play movies/TV. Biggest annoyance is probably that it can't to 24 Hz output, but few of these devices can.

Or the lack of Amazon streaming services.

Reading around, with a tiny bit of work (and a visit to http://www.apkmirror.com/) you can get the tablet versions of the Amazon Apps.


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Gah. Weak. Ordered one.

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