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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:37 
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MaliA's top tip for installation of handlebar grips:

Go to superdrug and buy the cheapest can of hairspray there. Spray handlebar with hairspray and inside of grip. Grip slides on, easy as pie, then gets glued to handlebar. Takes seconds.


Or just drop the grips into some nearly boiling water. The water expands them and makes the rubber soft. Then quickly slide them on. As the cool down they'll contract and become tight with the bonus of no mess.


I assume the handgrips you tried this on weren't actually made of rubber, which contracts with heat and the elasticity gets less..


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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 11:38 
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Oh, just whatever it says in the manual. Fair enough if it says real brake fluid :)


Fair enough, chap. That'll be nice and easy.

Also, Poploc on my forks is absolutely wonderful. Battering along the A41 yesterday, I just flicked a switch on my handlebars and my suspension stiffened, putting more of my energy into forward motion instead of bobbing the bike up and down. And if I need the extra travel, it automatically turns itself soft again on forceful impacts. Awesome.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2009 12:01 
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I assume the handgrips you tried this on weren't actually made of rubber, which contracts with heat and the elasticity gets less..


Rubber type stuff. But it worked so meh. From cold they just wouldn't go on.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:10 
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Had my first SPD mishap! But it was only on grass, and a gentle lay down. Apparently I hadn't quite tightened the cleats enough, and have you ever tried to unclip your feet when the clips themselves have come loose? Nice and tight now, and if it happens again I'll be bringing out the Loctite.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:11 
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Had my first SPD mishap! But it was only on grass, and a gentle lay down. Apparently I hadn't quite tightened the cleats enough, and have you ever tried to unclip your feet when the clips themselves have come loose? Nice and tight now, and if it happens again I'll be bringing out the Loctite.


Sorry to hear that. I didn't purposefully omit that information earlier, in anticipation of this, though.

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Good though, aren't they?

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:21 
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Sorry to hear that. I didn't purposefully omit that information earlier, in anticipation of this, though.

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Good though, aren't they?


I knew I needed to tighten them properly after I aligned them. I didn't, though, because I completely forgot while going 'WEEEEEEE!' down the road.

They're ace, I have to admit. I just need to check my cleats before I put the shoes on, and learn to anticipate any sort of hazard that might make me want to put a foot down.

Not sure what they're going to be like off-road, but I'll give them a whirl. If I don't like them, I've always got some spikey flat pedals I can swap them over with if need be.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:24 
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I'd probably ask here for advice about snack foods, booze, computers and videogames, mountain bikes not so much.

Shame on you.
I'm doubt there's many subjects that we can't cover on this board.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:25 
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I'd probably ask here for advice about snack foods, booze, computers and videogames, mountain bikes not so much.

Shame on you.
I'm doubt there's many subjects that we can't cover on this board.

markg thinks he's still on WoL, obv.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:27 
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Malabar Front wrote:
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Sorry to hear that. I didn't purposefully omit that information earlier, in anticipation of this, though.

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Good though, aren't they?


I knew I needed to tighten them properly after I aligned them. I didn't, though, because I completely forgot while going 'WEEEEEEE!' down the road.

They're ace, I have to admit. I just need to check my cleats before I put the shoes on, and learn to anticipate any sort of hazard that might make me want to put a foot down.

Not sure what they're going to be like off-road, but I'll give them a whirl. If I don't like them, I've always got some spikey flat pedals I can swap them over with if need be.


Protip:

Using a pair of trainers, learn to trackstand the bike (come to a gentle stop, turn teh front wheel slightly, and adust balance using teh pedals to rock back and forward slightly.

it's doubly useful, as with spds you can lean forwards and lift the rear with your feet at slow speed making line alterations easy. Off road theya re awesome, you just have to believe and trust.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:28 
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I'd probably ask here for advice about snack foods, booze, computers and videogames, mountain bikes not so much.

Shame on you.
I'm doubt there's many subjects that we can't cover on this board.

Fair enough, but for Mali's very specific initial query about a particular decade old mountain bike frame a forum of bike nerds would probably have got the answer he was after.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:29 
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Using a pair of trainers, learn to trackstand the bike (come to a gentle stop, turn teh front wheel slightly, and adust balance using teh pedals to rock back and forward slightly.

it's doubly useful, as with spds you can lean forwards and lift the rear with your feet at slow speed making line alterations easy. Off road theya re awesome, you just have to believe and trust.


I used to be able to do that brilliantly. I shall have to learn again. Ta!


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:29 
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I'd have written in to the pretty lady at MBUK, if she's still there.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
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My bike says Land Rover on it, so I'm not qualified to offer advice :)
It is pretty, though.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:34 
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I'd have written in to the pretty lady at MBUK, if she's still there.


I met one of the blokes from MBUK at a downhill race. he was an arrogant snottoad.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 10:58 
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This is a really good deal for both those lights together. The front one is the same as mine; the rear one looks awesome, though!


Yeah, okay, they're good enough!

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:07 
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Do not buy lights from Deal Extreme. As soon as you go through a bump they'll disintegrate scattering components across a wide area of countryside.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:08 
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Do not buy lights from Deal Extreme. As soon as you go through a bump they'll disintegrate scattering components across a wide area of countryside.

Haha, I concur. The cheap ones from Halfords do similar things, also.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:11 
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Do not buy lights from Deal Extreme. As soon as you go through a bump they'll disintegrate scattering components across a wide area of countryside.


I won't buy cheap anything unless it's something so simple even cheap knockoffs can't get wrong.

The multi-card-reader I bought from Deal Extreme was a complete piece of shit, but at only a few quid I couldn't be arsed doing anything about it.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 11:59 
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I've got a slight buckle in my front wheel. Which means rummaging through a box of "stuff that might be useful" to find the spoke key.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:01 
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I've got a slight buckle in my front wheel. Which means rummaging through a box of "stuff that might be useful" to find the spoke key.


I remember my first attempt at fixing a buckle when I was younger. The wheel almost ended up C-shaped, such was my complete lack of understanding. When someone said "Tighten the opposite side", I took it a bit too literally.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:09 
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Caution: you probably don't want DOT style brake fluid as you put in your car / motorbike. The components and hoses are plastic, not rubber and metal.


My brakes' manual actually recommends DOT 3 or 4. What would you recommend?

Dot 4 should be fine - it's pretty benign - just make sure you take the pads out before bleeding as the fluid will make them about as useful as sponge fingers if/when they get soaked

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Dot 4 should be fine - it's pretty benign - just make sure you take the pads out before bleeding as the fluid will make them about as useful as sponge fingers if/when they get soaked


Will do. I picked up some new DOT4 fluid last night, as I couldn't seem to find any in the garage. I'll probably be attempting this on Sunday.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:30 
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Dot 4 should be fine - it's pretty benign - just make sure you take the pads out before bleeding as the fluid will make them about as useful as sponge fingers if/when they get soaked


Will do. I picked up some new DOT4 fluid last night, as I couldn't seem to find any in the garage. I'll probably be attempting this on Sunday.


I bled my front brake last Sunday and even though I've got the pipes and syringes and special clamp to go on the brake lever I still managed to get brake fluid everywhere when the pipe came off the syringe. And I hadn't removed the brake pads so I fucked a set of those - and just to warn you, they're stupidly expensive for what they are - something like £13-15 a set. They do last a long time though - I ride my bike most days and do some serious off roading at least half a dozen times a year and the pads will easily last a couple of years.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:34 
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I'm so glad I've got disc brakes.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:38 
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I'm so glad I've got disc brakes.


Ditto, and hydraulic ones at that. I tried Miss Malabar's mechanical discs last night (fnar) and, while feeling much nicer than the old V-brakes I'm used to, weren't a touch on mine. I just need to swap the hoses around, because it feels really, really weird.


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Mine are only mechanical, but they're much better than V-brakes (except the very top-of-the-range ones).

I think hydraulic ones would be overkill for what I need it for, though. It's not like I'm going down 45 degree hills or owt.

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myp wrote:
Mine are only mechanical, but they're much better than V-brakes (except the very top-of-the-range ones).

I think hydraulic ones would be overkill for what I need it for, though. It's not like I'm going down 45 degree hills or owt.


Mine are probably overkill for most of the stuff I'll be doing, but I much prefer working with hydraulics anyway. I hate the open structure of mechanical brakes — they're much more prone to dirt and grime getting up the hoses.

There are no doubt mechanical systems better than my hydraulics, anyway. It's never just a case of saying Hydraulic > Mechanical.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
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Right, I'm off for my ride. If I get lost I'll let you know (as long as there's a GPRS signal).

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 13:00 
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I run a V brake on the front and an STX-SE canti on the rear. I like the mechanical simplicity of them. I stand the bike up on it's front wheel with 2 fingers wit the V brake, so I'm unsure how much I'd really benefit from the extra cost and weight of discs, unless it's easier to modulate the power. I've never really had too many problems with them riding through gloop and all, it generally fucks the transmission up before the brakes (Crud claw ftw!). mrsA's got mechanical discs, but I've got to fiddle with them a bit, as they feel really spongy right now.

Whislt I think of it, always wear a helmet, as there was a court case recently, where a motorcyclist skittled a cyclist who was stationary, about to turn right. The helmet wouldn't have saved him anyway, but there appears to be the beginnings of a movement towards "not wearing a helmet = contributory negligence", so be warned.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
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Whislt I think of it, always wear a helmet, as there was a court case recently, where a motorcyclist skittled a cyclist who was stationary, about to turn right. The helmet wouldn't have saved him anyway, but there appears to be the beginnings of a movement towards "not wearing a helmet = contributory negligence", so be warned.


Never used to, always do now. They're no hassle, and even if they provide a small amount of protection to your head, probably worth it.

I've very little doubt I'd be dead if I wasn't wearing a helmet in my motorbike crash, so I'm quite fond of them.


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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 16:16 
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Well, that was a cracking little ride. So, after leaving work, instead of heading south back to deepest Bulwell I headed north towards Mansfield. It was my intention to ride up there and back, followed by the six miles back home.

However, when I got to Mansfield I decided that I wanted to go a bit further, so I decided to head towards Sutton-in-Ashfield through a park area called Quarry Lane something or other. It was at this point that I nearly got run over by a tractor.

I got bored on the way to Sutton, so I changed direction at one point and decided to go to a little village called Rainworth (pronounced 'Rennurth' by t'locals). For those of you who don't know where this is - and I'm suspecting that's most of you - it is the other side of Mansfield to Sutton. However, halfway there I found a sign pointing towards 'National Cycle Network Route 6'. This sounded far too exciting an opportunity to pass up, so I followed it. Sadly, it wasn't that spectacular; just a massively long cycle path attached to the side of the A617. I rode up there a bit before turning right into Rainworth.

Once I got there, I felt a bit tired so I stopped at a petrol station and bought a bottle of water and a bar of chocolate. I sat where I had chained up my bike and refueled. A woman walking her dog went past and said, ''Ey up, me dook. Thar cudda fownd a better playess to 'ave a picnic' (Roughly translated: 'Hello there, young man. I believe you could have found a nicer place to have a picnic'), to which I told her that it wasn't a picnic; it was a Starbar. She didn't laugh.

At that point I'd cycled 12 miles, so I looked at my bike computer to work out how long it had taken me: 57 minutes. Not bad. My next plan was to cycle back through Rainworth, along to Mansfield and back down past Hucknall and home. This part of my journey wasn't particularly exciting. Partly because it was roads I'd already ridden on, but mainly I was knackered and couldn't be arsed in taking in any of the scenery. I did pass a Lambo Murcie and two Ferraris (although I suspect it was the same one as they were both the same light blue colour), though.

The best bit of the final few miles was racing a tractor (a different one to the one who nearly ran me over). He kept overtaking me going up the hills, but I then raced past him on the downhill stretches. He must have been going about 20mph, I reckon.

Halfway home I looked at my computer and thought it would be really odd if I managed to ride a whole marathon. Sadly, I fell agonisingly short; clocking up a total of 26.039 miles at an average of 12.9mph taking 2hrs00m36s. Add to that the 5.5 miles I cycled to work this morning, that means I've ridden a whopping (for me) 31.5 miles today.

I'm going to the gym in 45 minutes.

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It was at this point that I nearly got run over by a tractor.


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I was going at about 12mph at this point though, not 120mph. ;)

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I was going at about 12mph at this point though, not 120mph. ;)


Pfft, I was going 50mph, max! Honestly — I seriously wasn't speeding. I'd have been a) dead and b) completely deserving if I'd been riding like a dick that day.

Anyway. Sounds like you had a nice ride. I need to build up my stamina so I can tackle something like that — I'm knackered after 5 miles at the moment if I go at a decent pace.


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I'm knackered after 5 miles at the moment if I go at a decent pace.


Build up slowly and you won't notice it. Pace isn't as important as the time you spend exercising.


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I definitely took it steady, as I wasn't sure how far I was going to go and didn't want to get stranded. Plus I didn't know where the fuck I was going, so didn't want to pelt it in case I came a cropper on a bumpy bit of road or missed a junction or something.

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I'm knackered after 5 miles at the moment if I go at a decent pace.


Build up slowly and you won't notice it. Pace isn't as important as the time you spend exercising.


Will do.

I'm contemplating picking up another set of wheels and sticking some more-roadworthy tyres on them. I don't think riding on nobbly tyres on the road is particularly efficient, effective or wise.


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Well, that was a cracking little ride. So, after leaving work, instead of heading south back into my deepest Bowel I headed north towards my Man friend. It was my intention to ride up to my nuts and back, followed by the six million dollar man.

However, when I got to my Man friend I decided that I wanted to go a bit further, so I decided to head towards the spleen through a gash in his pancreas something or other. It was at this point that I nearly came.

I got bored on the way to cumsville, so I changed direction at one point and decided to go to a little village called Rimmington (pronounced 'Rimmingtown' by t'locals). For those of you who don't know where this is - and I'm suspecting that's most of you - place your nose on the gooch and wiggle your tongue. However, halfway there I found a sign pointing towards 'The Spam Cannon'. This sounded far too exciting an opportunity to pass up, so I followed it. Sadly, it wasn't that spectacular; just a todger attached to the side of a hairy scrote. I rode on it a bit before turning right into a sidesaddle position.

Once I got there, I felt a bit tired so I stopped for a bit and and had a bottle of water and a bar of chocolate. I sat where I had chained up my ankles. A woman walking her dog went past and said, ''Ey up, me dook. Thar cudda fownd a better playess to 'ave a picnic' (Roughly translated: 'Hello there, young man. I believe you could have found a nicer place to have a picnic'), to which I told her that it wasn't a picnic; it was a fuckfest. She didn't laugh.

At that point I'd riden 12 miles of prong, so I looked at my computer to work out how long it had taken me: 57 minutes. Not bad. My next plan was to revert back to rimming my Man friend and listen to Mick Hucknall at home. This part of my sexual awakening wasn't particularly exciting. Partly because it was stuff I'd already ridden on, but mainly I was knackered and couldn't be arsed in taking in any of the doggers that were surrounding us. I did pass a Luvie Mincie and two Feltchers (although I suspect it was the same one as they were both the same light brown colour), though.

The best bit of the final few miles was racing a rentboy (a different one to the one who nearly teabagged me). He kept overtaking me going up the chuff, but I then raced past him on the down strokes. He must have been going about 20cph, I reckon.

Halfway home I looked at my computer and thought it would be really odd if I managed to ride a whole marathon length. Sadly, I fell agonisingly short; clocking up a total of 26,039 winkies at an average of 12.9cph taking 2hrs00m36s. Add to that the 5.5 hours I wanked before work this morning, that means I've ridden a whopping (for me) 31.5 miles of dick today.

I'm going to the hit the showers in 45 minutes.

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Have I mentioned my "take map, use highlighter pen on bridleways" method of finding an ever expanding loop with shortcuts to get you home if you are knackered plan yet? if not, it's fairly simple, take a map, highlight the bridleways on it, then from any given start point, work out a loop you can do keeping off the roads as much as possible. Then add a loop to that loop, and then another, and soon enough, you've got a massive amount of car free fun mileage to play with.

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PostPosted: Fri May 29, 2009 16:39 
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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:07 
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Price of frame has gone over what I wish to pay. Sticking with custom Kona for time being.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 23:14 
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27 miles today. Was restricted for time due to packing for the move. Annoyingly my hayfever kicked in so the second half of the ride was spent with eyes streaming combined with an easterly wind that made things hard work at times. Can't say I really enjoyed it.

As usual was overtaken by lots of people on poncy expensive bikes who can go faster than me. Still presumably I'm getting a better work-out.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sat May 30, 2009 23:17 
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Spuds are ace.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:28 
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Malabar Front wrote:
Spuds are ace.


Amen, Brother Front. which shoes do you have? I've got a cheap pair of Shimano ones.

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:33 
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MaliA wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Spuds are ace.


Amen, Brother Front. which shoes do you have? I've got a cheap pair of Shimano ones.


I just borrowed a pair to see if I liked them - Shimano somethings. I'm probably going to plump for some Sidi ones shortly.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:50 
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Malabar Front wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Malabar Front wrote:
Spuds are ace.


Amen, Brother Front. which shoes do you have? I've got a cheap pair of Shimano ones.


I just borrowed a pair to see if I liked them - Shimano somethings. I'm probably going to plump for some Sidi ones shortly.


Sweet. I'm just looking at my map to see if I can get to http://www.otmoor.co.uk/ there and back in a reasonable time. It's about 50km. Basically, it's a loop on a loop, IYSWIM. Tempted..

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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:46 
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Sweet. I'm just looking at my map to see if I can get to http://www.otmoor.co.uk/ there and back in a reasonable time. It's about 50km. Basically, it's a loop on a loop, IYSWIM. Tempted..


About 31 miles. I hate KM because it's used by people who like to show off by saying "oh yah, I did 50k yesterday" knowing full well that the general population don't understand KM as a unit of measurement. My old bike computer got stuck on KM which was the most annoying thing ever.

On my bike I tend to allow for an average of 10 Miles per hour on our local terrain with no wind.


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 Post subject: Re: Mountain bikes
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:51 
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chinnyhill10 wrote:
MaliA wrote:

Sweet. I'm just looking at my map to see if I can get to http://www.otmoor.co.uk/ there and back in a reasonable time. It's about 50km. Basically, it's a loop on a loop, IYSWIM. Tempted..


About 31 miles. I hate KM because it's used by people who like to show off by saying "oh yah, I did 50k yesterday" knowing full well that the general population don't understand KM as a unit of measurement. My old bike computer got stuck on KM which was the most annoying thing ever.

On my bike I tend to allow for an average of 10 Miles per hour on our local terrain with no wind.


i use KM, as i measure distance with a bit of string. Loop I'm about to do is only 37.5km (or 23 miles) so that'll do me for a bit. I've just weighed myself so am on a "shit, malia you used to be slim!" panic....

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