Be Excellent To Each Other

Oh and every time someone disagrees with you, you accuse them of insulting you.

I find your views on ethnicity reeks of UK/US imperialism heritage where everything needs to be categorised and stamped, even when there's a goodwill to try to not being racist.

I really doubt I've said that about politicians, since my country parliament is very split on gender for a very long while. The leader of the political party i support is a woman and most of the MP's of the party are women.

EDIT: You find my views "outdated", because they're not aligned with the current Anglo-Saxon-centric views on race and diversity. Sure.

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You can disagree with me without being arrogant all the time.

Myp disagrees with me everytime, but for some reason he still comes across as nice and I'd still have a beer with him (I hope he's fine with it).

I can't quite get my head around what's going on here. I don't want to go through the film spoilers to find out.

Have you seen Get Out?

No. That's why I don't want to read the spoilers.

Well, the first spoilered part of the convo was Ruysan questioning how racist the film is and me pointing out the characters' bone deep racist behaviour. Now you're caught up.

Thanks man, that was pretty much figure of speech. "Politics" could have been an "Insert X". I said politics because that was probably what was going into the conversation. I know how many woman are interested in politics pretty much. Like i said, i was a militant for a political party (google "Bloco de Esquerda") and most of its MP's are woman.

Zardoz: Simply i don't think the racial message of the movie came across as well as it should, but looking into Metacritic i'm very much into the minority. Anyway, it's a good movie either way. watch it.

OK. Thanks, I will.

Ehehe, been reading that thing all over again. What was i doing in 2014? We need myp on this conversation to tell me how sexist i am.

See you in 2022!

And yet you still did the same to Myp in the thread Grim... linked:

He actually called me sexist, so that was true. On the other hand we had many other disagreements since then but he put some effort in his arguments instead of just writing an insulting line of text like Craster or Gaywood.

You have to realise that Get Out (remember that?) was made by a black director for a black audience. It’s a horror comedy at its heart (and a schlocky one at that) not a social commentary. It might not be surprising that the subtle horror that prevails during the first half (to generalise: feeling like an outcast just because of your skin colour) would be lost on some white audiences.

I agree (just like i mentioned before) that the first half writing was great. And the subtle horror was also not lost on me (a "white" man who never suffered any real prejudice). That wasn't my issue with it, but then we would be going into spoiler territory all over again.

*covers eyes*

*Cuddles Zardoz*

He doesn't like it when mummy and daddy fight.

Was your issue:- why black people not white people?

Just in case it's of interest -

https://twitter.com/ed_solomon/status/9 ... 8159255554

I promised this to some people a while ago (sorry for the delay, had to get them down from storage again). These are very first pages from the original, hand-written draft of Bill & Ted, written in a coffee shop by Chris Matheson & me in what now seems like another life. 1/ pic.twitter.com/yjcnf27QPS

— Ed Solomon (@ed_solomon) February 13, 2018

Racist!

Duly, um, boshed*, thanks!

*Germaned?

I always thought there was a “c” in that.

I think we're looking at bish, bash, bosh rather than The Bosche here.

Almost forgot.

Phantom Thread. It's OK, but not one for many of the citizens of this fine thread. It's beautifully acted, well written and nicely directed. It alludes to fairytales a bit, in it's depiction of classic muse and Svengali scenario that it reverses in a slightly obvious fashion. I enjoyed it, even though in typical Paul Thomas Anderson fashion the narrative arc can go hang.

Schwarzenegger and Fassbender confirmed for Kung Fury sequel:

https://www.engadget.com/2018/02/15/sch ... ssic-kung/

I'm slightly concerned at their ability to keep the funny over a presumably longer running time but I suppose we'll see.

The Shape of Water.

Very beautiful and moving film. Really enjoyed this — I find it interesting that Del Toro can make a fairytale fantasy like this and it never crosses your mind how ludicrous the topic is. All the acting in it is astounding and it is of course beautiful to look at.

I thought that even the first one worked much better as a trailer than it did as a whole film.

Lady Bird. Just wonderful. Boy, it made me weep. Very funny, too. Occasionally it doesn't quite flow, but fundamentally it avoids cinematic cliche - especially one scene near the end, when I really would have let it off - in favour of not showing you everything but making its point through the characterisation being so strong. Even the characters with much less screen time are well drawn.

Then I listened to the review of it later on in the same day and that was enough to set me off again.

Been to see Black Panther. I really enjoyed it. Not a must save the world Marvel, but a good story. His body guard is awesome.

It (2017)

I didn't like this as much as everyone else seemed to. Almost all of the kids were very underwritten (the only exception being Beverly, with Sophia Lillis turning in a performance with at least a little nuance in between the tropes), and although the jump scares were effective and Skarsgard was clearly enjoying chewing up kids and scenery in equal measure the whole film ended up feeling hollow to me. I had no real investment in any of the characters beyond Beverly, and I felt the film was content to just treat them as window dressing. Ultimately it was all sound and fury, signifying little. Somewhat ironically, given the provenance, I couldn't shake the feeling I was watching a second rate knockoff of Stranger Things. 2/5.

We watched Three Billboards Outside Epping, Missouri last night. Much of the pre-release hype about it seemed to label it as a black comedy, but I'm not sure I'd go that far - it's nowhere near as amusing as Martin McDonagh's previous work (thinking specifically of In Bruges and Seven Psychopaths) but that's not a bad thing.

Fantastic performances all-round, Frances McDormand is amazing, Woody Harrelson somehow manages to get across a whole spectrum of emotion from one scene to another in a way that I'd never really considered him to be capable of doing, and Sam Rockwell is... well, he's Sam Rockwell.

8/10.

Concur, excellent film.

After a rewatch, I agree with you

Double ditto. Sort of glad I had an idea about the ending - not what, but that it wasn't to everyone's taste. I liked it, though. And the film has stayed with me.

Not as much as Lady Bird, mind.

She was fucking spot on. I want to be Mildred when I grow up.

I’m adding to the “better than just passable Will Farrell films”:

Anchorman
Elf
*Old School

That is all.

Talladega Nights?

Naaahh.

The Love Punch - Pensioner heist movie with Emma! And Pierce Brosnan. It's lovely.

Couple more films I have seen:

Finding your Feet. Can't imagine many of you will consider this, but the trailer made it look lovely. It doesn't quite hit that. Pushes all the buttons it wants to, is lazy and sometimes incompetent in so doing, but just about hangs together enough to be fun, thanks to the three leads, I think. Why oh why does her mobile change to Italian when she pops to Rome for 2 days? Bizarre.

Game Night. Knew nothing about it, except that someone on the Wittertainment group suggested it was a treat. And they were right! Comedy more than rom-com, funny and smart, some plot holes if I think it through but who cares, it's a romp and I reckon most, if not all, of you will love it. You won't expect to, but you will.

Yeah Mute sucks.

I properly loved Moon and Source Code. Mute wasn't really badly directed, it's just dull, highly derivative, and not an interesting story.

Waste of a great Clint Mansell score.

Game Night. Jason Bateman's rich and over-bearing older brother arrives in town and attempts to jazz up their usual game nights with a staged kidnapping mystery game. The wheels come off it almost instantly and genuinely funny shenanigans ensue. Good script, good cast, good stuff.

Veronica is a pretty decent horror film. I've kind of gone off horror films a bit because they just don't seem to scare or unsettle me in any way any more for some reason, even jump scares don't get me like they used to so it started to feel like a total waste of time (horror games are different kettle of fish, though). But this one had some admirably creepy stuff going on.

With The Silent Child winning an Oscar last night, my Dad can now say he's met an Oscar winner, as Rachel Shenton is patron of our local deaf club.


Not too sure about his purple t-shirt though

Wow, that's pretty great:)

About the purple shirt: I had a teacher in the uni (which later became my boss) who was colour blind. Once he told us in class that he had divorced, and since it was his ex-wife that picked his clothes, any fashion mistakes from now on would be expectable.

There was one day he wore a bright purple dress shirt. From that day on i always assumed the same kind of story everytime i saw someone with questionable clothing.

But i suppose your dad just likes purple.

Couple of really good movie analyses I watched yesterday by the consistently excellent Chris Stuckmann.

First is for 'STAY', considering it as a misunderstood gem, the second is a close look at 'ALIEN 3' and how it got fucked around time and time again.

This guy is splendid, and his in-depth analysis videos particularly so.

8/10!?!?!

I watched this last night and was truly blown away by it.

I agree with everything you say but think 8/10 is an incredibly miserly score. This is one of the finest films I've seen for a while.

925/1000

After the intensity of Three Billboards I fancied something a little bit easier going last night so I had a browse through Amazon Prime's movie list selection, (which appears to be better than it was), and settled on a nonsensical 2013 film called 'Escape Plan' with Arnie and Sly in it. (There are also a few other familiar faces in there, such as Vincent D'Onofrio, Vinnie Jones, Sam Neill and Jim Caviezel.)

Sly is a genius sort of 'prison breaker' character, who is employed by various authorities to test the structural security of the world's toughest prisons (no, really). He agrees to take 'one last job' to test the security of a new ultra-secret high-tech facility that officially doesn't exist.

But what's this? A double-cross! And Sly finds himself genuinely incarcerated in a prison that none of his friends know the location of. Will he be able to break out? (Spoiler alert. Yes.)

Also imprisoned in the facility is Arnie, and he seems to want to get to know Sly right from the start. After being suspicious of him at first, Sly and Arnie must work together to orchestrate their escape, as the vicious warden (played by Caviezel and assisted by his psychopathic hard-man (inevitiably played by Jones)) seeks to break their bodies and minds.

If all this sounds utterly preposterous then yes, it absolutely is, but for what it is, it works.

This is basically an 80s popcorn movie, Sly and Arnie are on good form and work well together on the screen. The script is solid, the acting is fine, the budget was sufficient to make it all look nice and shiny, the action is well choreographed and the directing is assured. It's not massively violent (Cert 15, R in the States) but there are crunchy fight scenes and blood flies when people get shot. (The action does have that jump-cut editing style and a lot of obvious body double shots, which is understandable considering the two protagonists have a combined age of three million years.)

Don't get me wrong, this isn't a great film, but it knows what it is, and it does it well. If you want a fun action movie that doesn't test the old grey matter too much (or indeed at all), this is the film for you.

700/1000 - So exactly as good as Baby Driver.