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Author:  devilman [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:16 ]
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Well my bank have sent me six free cinema tickets, so maybe I'll be seeing Blade Runner in the cinema after all.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:40 ]
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GazChap wrote:
devilman wrote:
I think I'll wait for the blu-ray of Blade Runner
That won't do it justice. It really needs to be seen on the biggest screen you can find with the best sound system.
This is why everyone should have a 100in screen and no immediate neighbours dictating surround volume.

See also: Mad Max Fury Road.

Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 14:33 ]
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I’m going to see Blade Runner again. At the cinema. Which is bloody rare for me.

Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:06 ]
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Whilst I accept the cinema can be the best way to experience certain films I think a decent home setup can come pretty close, all you need is a fairly sizable screen, a proper 5:1 or 7:1 sound system, and a comfy couch. (I've got a 5:1 sound system that I bought with my original XBox360 some ten years ago that's still doing sterling service.)

Plus bonus points for the home arrangement are:

1) None of the great unwashed eating crisps or fucking about on their phones or generally being a pain in the arsehole.
2) The ability to pause if a comfort break is required, or getting a drink, or suchlike.
3) You can replay a bit if you missed what happened or some dialogue.
4) Other things I can't think of right now.
5) Also the cinema is quite expensive if you go regularly.
6) You don't have to travel to the cinema and like, park up and stuff, if you're just sat on your own couch.
7) You can eat reasonably priced popcorn and other snacks in your own house.
8 ) The sound can be a bit too loud in modern cinemas.
9) Sometimes you may have to travel through undesirable areas to get to the cinema.
10) You can have subtitles when you're watching a film in your own house.

Author:  markg [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:11 ]
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Ok nan.

Author:  myp [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:49 ]
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Fuck watching anything in 720p

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:53 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Whilst I accept the cinema can be the best way to experience certain films I think a decent home setup can come pretty close, all you need is a fairly sizable screen, a proper 5:1 or 7:1 sound system, and a comfy couch. (I've got a 5:1 sound system that I bought with my original XBox360 some ten years ago that's still doing sterling service.)

Plus bonus points for the home arrangement are:

1) None of the great unwashed eating crisps or fucking about on their phones or generally being a pain in the arsehole.
2) The ability to pause if a comfort break is required, or getting a drink, or suchlike.
3) You can replay a bit if you missed what happened or some dialogue.
4) Other things I can't think of right now.
5) Also the cinema is quite expensive if you go regularly.
6) You don't have to travel to the cinema and like, park up and stuff, if you're just sat on your own couch.
7) You can eat reasonably priced popcorn and other snacks in your own house.
8 ) The sound can be a bit too loud in modern cinemas.
9) Sometimes you may have to travel through undesirable areas to get to the cinema.
10) You can have subtitles when you're watching a film in your own house.


I've just Googled the cinema in the IoM. Where are you getting your experience of modern cinemas from because it's certainly not anywhere on the island.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:54 ]
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Get a decent telly scrubber kid.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:56 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Get a decent telly scrubber kid.


I'm happy to just clean it myself rather than getting some child in.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 15:57 ]
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Soz Bambi, I was shouting at Myps.

Author:  flis [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 16:00 ]
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I went to the cinema at Liverpool One yesterday, there were closed captions and about 4 other people in there. Seats were fucking huge and comfy, and you can easily take your own sweets in.

Downside - stupid kid didn't want to watch Blade Runner. Stupid, stupid kid. So we watched Kingsman 2, whatever that's called. It was terrible. Best thing about it was the two old dears sat on the front row giggling and nudging each other the whole time. They were much more entertaining than the movie.

Author:  myp [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 16:11 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Soz Bambi, I was shouting at Myps.

Full HD Sony Bravia here, but thanks

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 16:14 ]
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They're shit.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 16:17 ]
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Picturehouse at FACT was the cinema of choice in Liverpool when I lived there. A bar with decent booze just a short sprint downstairs, between the screens and bogs!

Except for the downstairs 50-seater screen that was all sofas, then it was a short sprint upstairs to the bar.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 17:58 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Whilst I accept the cinema can be the best way to experience certain films I think a decent home setup can come pretty close, all you need is a fairly sizable screen, a proper 5:1 or 7:1 sound system, and a comfy couch. (I've got a 5:1 sound system that I bought with my original XBox360 some ten years ago that's still doing sterling service.)

Plus bonus points for the home arrangement are:

1) Because you've stolen the film, you don't have to sit through forty minutes of adverts and warnings about not stealing the film.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 21:38 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Hearthly wrote:
Whilst I accept the cinema can be the best way to experience certain films I think a decent home setup can come pretty close, all you need is a fairly sizable screen, a proper 5:1 or 7:1 sound system, and a comfy couch. (I've got a 5:1 sound system that I bought with my original XBox360 some ten years ago that's still doing sterling service.)

Plus bonus points for the home arrangement are:

1) Because you've stolen the film, you don't have to sit through forty minutes of adverts and warnings about not stealing the film.


Eh. Turn up 25 minutes after the advertised start time and never see any of that. Also, I can't remember the last time I saw any kind of anti-piracy chat before a film.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 21:50 ]
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Ffs you fucking nerds. Also, not enough LEDs in your setups, I bet

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 23:36 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Ffs you fucking nerds. Also, not enough LEDs in your setups, I bet


Wait, what?

LEDs? That doesn't even make sense in the context of this thread.

On that evidence, we could replace you with the worst bot that's ever existed and still get more relevant chat.

Seriously dude, raise your game.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:11 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
1) None of the great unwashed eating crisps or fucking about on their phones or generally being a pain in the arsehole.

This has only ever been a problem for me once in the many years I've been going to the cinema. Not saying it doesn't happen, but you must go to some shitty cinemas for it to be a regular thing, a decent cinema will kick people out for this.

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2) The ability to pause if a comfort break is required, or getting a drink, or suchlike.

Granted.

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3) You can replay a bit if you missed what happened or some dialogue.

You can, but I can't help but think that spoils the "flow" of the film a bit.

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5) Also the cinema is quite expensive if you go regularly.

£11.50 per month for unlimited movies for me, and if we go on a Tues/Weds then Jem can join me for free with Meerkat Movies (which has already paid for itself 10 times over)

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6) You don't have to travel to the cinema and like, park up and stuff, if you're just sat on your own couch.

Granted, but it's nice to go out for the evening and have something to eat while you're out etc.

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7) You can eat reasonably priced popcorn and other snacks in your own house.

Most cinemas these days don't seem to give a shit about you bringing in your own stuff, not even the big chains, in my experience.

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8 ) The sound can be a bit too loud in modern cinemas.

You must be getting old ;)

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9) Sometimes you may have to travel through undesirable areas to get to the cinema.

Or just don't go through those areas, or go to a different cinema?

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10) You can have subtitles when you're watching a film in your own house.

As someone who has horrific hearing sometimes, I always have subtitles on when watching films at home, but the volume in the cinema means I don't need 'em there.

:P

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 9:13 ]
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Bamba wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ffs you fucking nerds. Also, not enough LEDs in your setups, I bet


Wait, what?

LEDs? That doesn't even make sense in the context of this thread.

It very much does, sir.

Author:  Jem [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 10:08 ]
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I have to admit that although I've been to the cinema a GAZILLION times this year - determined to make the most of Gaz's unlimited doodaa + meerkat movies - there is something to be said for being able to snuggle up under a duvet, bra off, copious cheap snacks in hand at home with a film.

(I considered taking my bra off during The Mountain Between Us at the cinema last night, but then realised I had nothing to put it in so would have had to carry it out of the cinema. That's levels of weirdness I'm not comfortable with.)

Author:  flis [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:00 ]
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I categorise movies into "cinema movie" and "not cinema movie" to help me decide whether the public are worth putting up with for a few hours, or whether my home entertainment situation can adequately portray the movie as intended.

Generally, only action movies will get me into the cinema. Sometimes, I even find those movies better on the small screen afterwards. I don't want to get motion sickness watching a fight scene.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:03 ]
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flis wrote:
I don't want to get motion sickness watching a fight scene.


Quantum Of Solace, opening car chase, front bloody row of the cinema. Nearly vommed.

Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:22 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
flis wrote:
I don't want to get motion sickness watching a fight scene.


Quantum Of Solace, opening car chase, front bloody row of the cinema. Nearly vommed.


I saw Logan in the cinema, at a massive screen with those moving chairs that 'add' to the experience.

Unfortunately I was having a few issues at the time and ended up having a panic attack, irregular heartbeat and the inescapable feeling I was about to die of heart failure.

Kinda put me off Dbox, and somewhat unfairly, Logan!

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:21 ]
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Jem wrote:
(I considered taking my bra off during The Mountain Between Us at the cinema last night, but then realised I had nothing to put it in so would have had to carry it out of the cinema. That's levels of weirdness I'm not comfortable with.)

Hello! Man here. I'm not sure which bits in particular are uncomfortable, but would just undoing the bra not have worked nearly as well?

Author:  Jem [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 13:47 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Jem wrote:
(I considered taking my bra off during The Mountain Between Us at the cinema last night, but then realised I had nothing to put it in so would have had to carry it out of the cinema. That's levels of weirdness I'm not comfortable with.)

Hello! Man here. I'm not sure which bits in particular are uncomfortable, but would just undoing the bra not have worked nearly as well?

That would have relieved some of the pressure from around the back but it wouldn't have taken the annoying rubby wires away from my skin which is what I wanted to escape from.

Bras are the devils work.

Author:  Hearthly [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 13:56 ]
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Indeed, I always take my bra off when watching a film at home.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:00 ]
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Bra off time is the most glorious part of any day. I haven’t worn an underwired bra in years. I don’t actually know why there’s a wire in some bras.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:06 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Bra off time is the most glorious part of any day. I haven’t worn an underwired bra in years. I don’t actually know why there’s a wire in some bras.

Patriarchy.

Author:  devilman [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:07 ]
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Jem wrote:
Bras are the devils work.


I do have a knack of making everything go tits up.

Author:  Jem [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:26 ]
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I do feel less like a homogeneous lump of middle flesh when wearing an underwired bra but a couple of mine are the wrong size and I am glad to get them off at the end of the day.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:28 ]
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Throw them away! Your booblets deserve a bra that fits and is comfyball.

Author:  Jem [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:28 ]
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I will when I have some money :S

Author:  myp [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:30 ]
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Bras are a racket and a half. Sal is constantly buying them because the underwire is always popping out - and they're eyewateringly expensive

Author:  Jem [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 14:31 ]
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Yes the are. I was gutted when I lost my bestest bra to an underwire malfunction (having bodged a fix twice)

Author:  JBR [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 16:21 ]
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Kingsman 2. Yes, well. I enjoyed it, but had to ignore the 12 year old's wish fulfillment view of sex bits.

Geostorm. It's shit, obviously, plot holes and rushed timing-various characters have to make huge decisions in seconds because otherwise it all falls apart. Worse or better, I can't decide, is it's attempt to avoid making it totally male. Worse, because it's so hackneyed - two female characters are more or less crammed into a scene just to make sure they've spoken to each other, but at least they made the effort. Couldn't work out if the young girl was terrible or doing the best she could with a mixture of 18 and 5 year old's dialogue. Female German chief scientist seems hard arsed at first, then is reduced to looking blankly over Gerard's shoulder as he does decisions. I decided having a British character who is a total prick and doesn't want to play with everyone in the international utopia was a very amusing political allegory, for which it gets an extra 200 bananas.

Andy Garcia shows Samuel L how you really phone in a performance.

But overall the tech was interesting-NASA wish fulfillment here, with a squadron of new shuttles-and flaunted. And the whole is shit in a fun way-expect little, get fun.

Author:  myp [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 22:40 ]
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Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 23:02 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.

It's film noir with robots. Story? Pah!

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 23:05 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.

It's film noir with robots. Story? Pah!


It is a search for the meaning to define what it is to be alive.

Author:  myp [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 23:10 ]
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MaliA wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.

It's film noir with robots. Story? Pah!


It is a search for the meaning to define what it is to be alive.

Well duh

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 23:19 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.


I watched it yesterday! I enjoyed the atmosphere but I was just sat there going “Akira did it better”.

Then when the main baddie strips down to his pants and chases Ford I started to switch off due to Ford dropping his gun and not even attempting to retrieve it. And I got annoyed that despite having a full functioning left hand he didn’t decide to sit in corner and wait for baddie to come in and then blast him. Instead he sets about climbing the tallest bookcase he can find (!?) .

Y'know I’ve never seen the theatrical cut but I saw a clip with the cheesy narrative voiceover and thought that might be better for people who don’t like long lingering shots of people looking distant.

I still don’t get the unicorn but though. I might have to look up what that was all about...

Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 23:25 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Just watched Blade Runner Final Cut with Sal. She said nothing happened until 20 mins till the end. I really loved it but I'm finding it hard to argue.


I still don’t get the unicorn but though. I might have to look up what that was all about...


It meant deckard was in the game for a free steam code.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 0:45 ]
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Or for Orange Wednesday codes

Author:  Hearthly [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:40 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
I still don’t get the unicorn but though. I might have to look up what that was all about...


It's because Deckard dreamt of a unicorn at one point and that's the dude basically saying 'I know what you dream about', i.e. 'I know what you are'.

Although there are still arguments about whether or not Deckard is a replicant, Scott has said that he is and he's the director so, like, we could say he is.

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:18 ]
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Don't get me started on that fucking unicorn.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:41 ]
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GazChap wrote:
that fucking unicorn.


Protip: don't google this.

Author:  Pundabaya [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:30 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
I still don’t get the unicorn but though. I might have to look up what that was all about...


It's because Deckard dreamt of a unicorn at one point and that's the dude basically saying 'I know what you dream about', i.e. 'I know what you are'.

Although there are still arguments about whether or not Deckard is a replicant, Scott has said that he is and he's the director so, like, we could say he is.


Harrison Ford, Rutger Hauer and the guy who wrote the script all say he is human.

Evidence for Deckard being a replicant: The unicorn and theres that one scene where his eyes shine like the replicants (Harrison Ford stood in the wrong place)

Evidence that he's just human: the replicants fucking cream him. He also shows far, far more emotion than any of the replicants in the film. The only replicant that isn't initially aware of their status is Rachel... and she works it out quickly

Given his recent track record, I think it's safe to say that Ridley Scott is awesome at the visual side of film making, but knows fuck all about the content of his fims.

(For the record, my opinion: It doesn't matter either way, the point of the movie is that replicants ARE human. But the story loses its centre if he's a replicant and it makes even less sense)

Author:  Cras [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:54 ]
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I'm fairly sure that the ambiguity is what makes everything work.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:49 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
(For the record, my opinion: It doesn't matter either way, the point of the movie is that replicants ARE human. But the story loses its centre if he's a replicant and it makes even less sense)


I agree with you that it doesn't matter as it's not in any way what the film is 'about' as it were. Then again I don't think it particularly spoils/changes the film if you think he's a replicant or not though, he could be a different model running a newer version of Android, or something.

The unicorn sequence and origami unicorn are hard to reconcile without him being a replicant though.

(I'm not committed to thinking one way or the other, not least because I agree it doesn't matter so I've never given it that much thought.)

It's definitely one of my favourite ever films in The Final Cut form - possibly Top Ten list material. (I rewatched it fairly recently for the umpteeneth time.)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Oct 14, 2017 8:59 ]
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Cras wrote:
I'm fairly sure that the ambiguity is what makes everything work.

I disagree, although I personally like the ambiguity. It's more thematically consistent if he's human. He shows the replicants no mercy; he guns Zora down in the street as she flees in terror. Despite that, Roy not only doesn't kill him, but he saves Deckard's life at the end. This inverted symmetry is the pivot the whole film turns on: the replicant has far more humanity than the human, and what's the point of exalting human status if the human has no compassion and no conscience? You lose all that if Deckard isn't human.

The best moment in the film for me is one that isn't often mentioned, though. It's Graff's final line to Deckard as he leaves with Rachel. "Too bad she won't live... but then again, who does?" I love the fatalistic-yet-defiant outlook and the double meaning. Gives me chills every time.

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