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Author:  KovacsC [ Mon May 01, 2017 17:22 ]
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It is one thing that annoys me with the Marvel films is all the extra stuff in and after the credits. I only saw 3.. dammit
Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:10 ]
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Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:25 ]
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I was ready to be angry because the reloading bit at the beginning is just stupid (how he does it around 2 minutes in seems more like what was described in the books) but holy shit that looks good.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:26 ]
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That looks really, really good.

Fuck all to do with the books, but I'm ok with that.
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:34 ]
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It has the potential to be good, but don't see how they're going to cram in the entire story into one film without leaving too much out or changing it completely.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:39 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
leaving [stuff] out


that

Quote:
or changing it completely.


and that.

I've read that they've justified it as

[book spoiler]
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
another loop around. Or perhaps an earlier loop. Who knows. Eld bless the multiverse!
Author:  MrChris [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:51 ]
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Yeah, this looks like a somewhat changed story - I don't recall Roland being on Earth at any point, other than very briefly (?) but it's a while since I read the books.

It really should be something that's set up as a 3 or 4 film set - you can't do the scope of the story in the books justice in one film. Still, on the plus side I assume this means we will be spared all of King's worst excesses of literary onanism in the books.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:52 ]
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Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:57 ]
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He was in New York multiple times in the books. And alternate Topeka.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed May 03, 2017 11:58 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
He was in New York multiple times in the books. And alternate Topeka.

In massive gun battles? He was in that chap's office, I remember that. Then there was all that nonsense with Stephen King, but I vaguely recall Roland was ill for that. Or something.
Either way, the trailer doesn't seem to bear a great deal of resemblance to the books. Not that that is necessarily a bad thing of course.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:02 ]
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MrChris wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
He was in New York multiple times in the books. And alternate Topeka.

In massive gun battles?

I remember a shootout in the gun shop where he shot the gun out of the cop's hand.
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:08 ]
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Yeah, I remember him noting how slow and fat the gunslingers of our world were.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:43 ]
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Were there any indications of a gimped right hand in there?
Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:54 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:56 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.
Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed May 03, 2017 12:56 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.


is it Dimrill?
Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 13:13 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Were there any indications of a gimped right hand in there?

Nope.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 13:23 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.

Wibbly wobbly multiverse
Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed May 03, 2017 13:24 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.

Wibbly wobbly multiverse


Put them together and what have you got, bippity boppity boo.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 13:26 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.

Wibbly wobbly multiverse


Put them together and what have you got, R'lyeh

FTFY
Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed May 03, 2017 13:39 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Ah, according to the Wiki it's a sequel to the books.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower_(2017_film)


Is this likely to be overly problematic for someone who has never read the books and has no intention of reading the books?

Not at all, because of a specific reason.

Wibbly wobbly multiverse


Put them together and what have you got, R'lyeh

FTFY


OR'LY?
Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:15 ]
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Cleverer people than me spied these in the trailer:

Image

Image
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:21 ]
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No Choo-choo? Shame.
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:22 ]
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I don't recognise the second one, but holy shit the first!
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:24 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I don't recognise the second one, but holy shit the first!

The first is the Overlook Hotel from The Shining.

edit. Second. Duh.
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:26 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I don't recognise the second one, but holy shit the first!

The first is the Overlook Hotel from The Shining.

edit. Second. Duh.

It did cross my mind after I posted. I thought it was perhaps to do with the the little statuette rather than the picture at first.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:28 ]
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Given the nature of the books the film is going to have to be chock full of this stuff.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:36 ]
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On subsequent viewings I'm starting to think this looks a bit too "generic action movie".

For example:
All the clothes are flawless
Jake seems to convince Roland that he has to get to TDT. What?
The dialogue is pretty shit (apart from the bit at the end, which is lifted straight from the books)
It's not a western

I'm going to remain optimistic however, and hope this is a trailer for the non-readers.
Author:  myp [ Wed May 03, 2017 14:52 ]
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Grim... wrote:
On subsequent viewings I'm starting to think this looks a bit too "generic action movie".

For example:
All the clothes are flawless
Jake seems to convince Roland that he has to get to TDT. What?
The dialogue is pretty shit (apart from the bit at the end, which is lifted straight from the books)
It's not a western

I'm going to remain optimistic however, and hope this is a trailer for the non-readers.

I'm cautiously optimistic. None of the other characters show in the trailer at all apart from the main three.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu May 04, 2017 12:47 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Grim... wrote:
On subsequent viewings I'm starting to think this looks a bit too "generic action movie".

For example:
All the clothes are flawless
Jake seems to convince Roland that he has to get to TDT. What?
The dialogue is pretty shit (apart from the bit at the end, which is lifted straight from the books)
It's not a western

I'm going to remain optimistic however, and hope this is a trailer for the non-readers.

I'm cautiously optimistic. None of the other characters show in the trailer at all apart from the main three.


Dennis Haysbert is Stephen Deschain, and according to IMDB, Susan Delgado will feature in the film too (might be her in the trailer), so that's spanning plot points from the first four books at least.

I'd love them to get a proper crossover with the new IT movie in there as well.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 04, 2017 16:56 ]
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Talking of cowboy movies, the remake of The Magnificent 7 was somewhat disappointingly underwhelming.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu May 04, 2017 17:14 ]
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The disappointingly underwhelming 7.

...and were back to GTA online.
Author:  Bamba [ Thu May 04, 2017 20:37 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Talking of cowboy movies, the remake of The Magnificent 7 was somewhat disappointingly underwhelming.


I really enjoyed it but I've never seen the original and I appreciate it was mostly coasting on the strength of the cast.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 04, 2017 21:47 ]
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People-movie Ghost in the Shell is absolute garbage.

And I just hated the aesthetics. Avoid.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu May 04, 2017 22:15 ]
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Bamba wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Talking of cowboy movies, the remake of The Magnificent 7 was somewhat disappointingly underwhelming.


I really enjoyed it but I've never seen the original and I appreciate it was mostly coasting on the strength of the cast.

I haven't seen the original either, it just seemed a little lacking in direction.
Author:  Bamba [ Fri May 05, 2017 0:21 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
People-movie Ghost in the Shell is absolute garbage.

And I just hated the aesthetics. Avoid.


Aye, it was total fucking gash. And, again, I'm not judging it against the original but just as a standalone film. The bits they showed in the trailer looked lovely and interesting but the overall design was just 'generic futuristic bollocks'. Nonsense.
Author:  Bamba [ Fri May 05, 2017 0:25 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Bamba wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Talking of cowboy movies, the remake of The Magnificent 7 was somewhat disappointingly underwhelming.


I really enjoyed it but I've never seen the original and I appreciate it was mostly coasting on the strength of the cast.

I haven't seen the original either, it just seemed a little lacking in direction.


Yeah, for sure. But I was relatively happy to just watch the participants ramble around and talk shit at each other because they were pretty much all so charming. I mean shit; anything with Ethan Hawke, Chris Pratt and Vincent D'onofrio is going to have to struggle really hard to not be really watchable.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri May 05, 2017 11:03 ]
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I watched Hostel Part III for a bit last night cause someone reminded me of Hostel. It was a bit shit so I turned it off and not because of the whole torture porn business, because it's terribly comical for some unknown reason. Someone gets killed by cockroaches, for example.
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Sun May 07, 2017 22:17 ]
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Pandemic - don't bother, stick to the board game.
Author:  Curiosity [ Mon May 08, 2017 0:29 ]
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Just got round to watching Kingsman, because I saw the trailer for the sequel and thought it looked good.

What a great fun movie!
Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue May 09, 2017 16:03 ]
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Author:  MrChris [ Tue May 09, 2017 20:02 ]
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It's such a shame they cast Ryan Gosling.
Author:  MrChris [ Tue May 09, 2017 21:52 ]
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Half way through Logan- I'm not entirely sure what the fuck is going on, but Jesus it's good. Patrick Stewart in particular is giving a fantastic performance, but the three protagonists work really well together. Even Stephen Marchant is not annoying.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed May 10, 2017 9:21 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Even Stephen Marchant is not annoying.


Yeah, I was worried he's be too 'Stephen Merchant' for it but he hits the precise right balance of sarcastic and miserable.
Author:  Hearthly [ Fri May 12, 2017 15:14 ]
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Last night I watched 'MANCHESTER BY THE SEA', which is summarised thusly by Rotten Tomatoes:

Quote:
After the death of his older brother Joe (Kyle Chandler), Lee Chandler (Casey Affleck) is shocked to learn that Joe has made him sole guardian of his nephew Patrick (Lucas Hedges). Taking leave of his job, Lee reluctantly returns to Manchester-by-the-Sea to care for Patrick, a spirited 16-year-old, and is forced to deal with a past that separated him from his wife Randi (Michelle Williams) and the community where he was born and raised. Bonded by the man who held their family together, Lee and Patrick struggle to adjust to a world without him.


I'm going to be mega-lazy and just link off to James Berardinelli's (very positive) review because I need to start getting stuff ready for when Jnr gets back from school, save to say that this is a wonderful and deeply moving film, as strong an analysis of crippling grief and trauma as I think I've seen committed to film, with some toweringly good performances and a scene towards the end that is devastatingly upsetting but also in its own way cathartic and perhaps the first step towards healing.

I should also note it's not some sort of relentless grinding miserabilist experience, there's a lot of love and humour in here.

921/1000

http://www.reelviews.net/reelviews/manc ... by-the-sea
Author:  LewieP [ Fri May 12, 2017 16:46 ]
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I really didn't like Manchester By The Sea.
Author:  Hearthly [ Fri May 12, 2017 17:51 ]
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LewieP wrote:
I really didn't like Manchester By The Sea.


Interesting, anything in particular you didn't like about it or just the whole thing?
Author:  Jem [ Fri May 12, 2017 18:24 ]
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I want to watch Manchester by the Sea but I know the accusations of Affleck's sexual assault on 2 coworkers completely coloured my view of him so it will probably bias my opinion of the film. ?:|
Author:  LewieP [ Sat May 13, 2017 4:39 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
LewieP wrote:
I really didn't like Manchester By The Sea.


Interesting, anything in particular you didn't like about it or just the whole thing?


Just felt like it spent a lot of the film building towards "What was the tragedy that lead towards this", but then I wasn't really convinced or invested in the characters when the reveal actually happened.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sat May 13, 2017 8:37 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Just felt like it spent a lot of the film building towards "What was the tragedy that lead towards this", but then I wasn't really convinced or invested in the characters when the reveal actually happened.


See now I'd read the film's Wiki article before watching it, specifically because I find that these sorts of narratives are often stronger without pieces of the puzzle missing. (Obviously just watching the film twice would have the same effect, but I think my way is more efficient.)

As such, right from the very first frames I knew exactly what had taken this man to the place we find him in and was able to contextualise everything on screen, and when the 'reveal' came it still had a huge impact.

Might not be the right approach for everyone but from reading the reviews, all of which mentioned the 'reveal' without saying what it was (even the Rotten Tomatoes summary copied and pasted above alludes to it), I knew it was the kind of film where I'd be a lot better off just knowing the whole story upfront.

Jem wrote:
I want to watch Manchester by the Sea but I know the accusations of Affleck's sexual assault on 2 coworkers completely coloured my view of him so it will probably bias my opinion of the film. ?:|


Hmm I wasn't aware of these at all, although having had a quick Google they are allegations and not proven?

Then again, I'll still watch films with Mel Gibson in them because I think he's a mesmerisingly good actor, despite clearly being a pretty fucking awful person.
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