Be Excellent To Each Other

I didn't know what this film was about when I watched it as I had never heard of it at the time. I had a Buyer's copy from work, and bought it home as I quite like DiCaprio. I had no knowledge of this person prior to watching the film and have not read anything about him after the fact, but as far as the movie itself goes it is absolutely amazing. It's proper top-notch entertainment and outstanding acting. DiCaprio's character is not the 'hero' of the piece: he's a sleazy, lonely person with no real relationships and is vacuous and empty, so you don't come away from the film cheering him on.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and as it was a buyer's copy they did not get a penny out of us, AND because it was so good I then passed it on to someone else, and I think it made its way around the office to pretty much everyone after I had watched it AND we decided not to stock it because we tend to do much better on DVDs that are a distress purchase (ones that just keep the kids quiet for an hour) so how's that for sticking it to the man? Muhahahahaha. DiCapro is excellent though. As was the direction. The whole design was awesome, too.


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I didn't know what this film was about when I watched it as I had never heard of it at the time. I had a Buyer's copy from work, and bought it home as I quite like DiCaprio. I had no knowledge of this person prior to watching the film and have not read anything about him after the fact, but as far as the movie itself goes it is absolutely amazing. It's proper top-notch entertainment and outstanding acting. DiCaprio's character is not the 'hero' of the piece: he's a sleazy, lonely person with no real relationships and is vacuous and empty, so you don't come away from the film cheering him on.

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, and as it was a buyer's copy they did not get a penny out of us, AND because it was so good I then passed it on to someone else, and I think it made its way around the office to pretty much everyone after I had watched it AND we decided not to stock it because we tend to do much better on DVDs that are a distress purchase (ones that just keep the kids quiet for an hour) so how's that for sticking it to the man? Muhahahahaha. DiCapro is excellent though. As was the direction. The whole design was awesome, too.

What the heck is happenings?

Did I edit myself instead of quote? My first post disappeared. I think I messed it up.

Sorry. The bigger post was first but now it is all behind.

I agree with Mimi.

I agree with Mimi's first post but not her second.

I agree with Kermit

Kermit is the patriarchy.

All he cares about is keeping the theatre open, it's not about the art for him. Ultimate capitalist, he is all about the green.

He does all these things, and has a great time doing it. And in the end he wins; a short jail sentence and he gets to still be rich as fuck. And it's real. And he is currently living the life of a millionaire and 'life coaching' people to do the same sort of shit.

You're the first person I know to have seen the film and taken from it that he didn't (some bad moments aside) have an amazing fucking time whilst screwing people over.

The trailer and reviews must really have misrepresented this movie. I didn't know it was a harrowing, grim take about how awful it is to be rich and popular by fucking everyone over.

Not watching his movie isn't going to change that, though.

No, but watching him will annoy the fuck out of me; hence I would rather not.

It's not going to help either, and in some small way contributes to his success (assuming you watch it legally).

That's not strictly true, he doesn't get any share of takings/sales. He got a payout to provide the autobiographical information needed to make it, and he's profiting certainly from his business being publicised, but somebody watching the film doesn't make him any money.

Are you 100% on that? The screenplay was adapted from the memoir by the scumbag, which might suggest that the rights may include points on the door. I'm not saying your wrong or right (unless you know better than me), as presumably it's a matter of contract we won't know about. But even if it doesn't, I bet the film increased the sale of the book and this guy has made himself "mad profits yo."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-es ... rts-669917

This says he didn't get royalties and was paid a milli. Still, what a douche.

The morality of the film has precisely fuck all to do with what sort of time he's having, it's about what kind of opinion the viewer is invited to make of it all. But I'm done arguing with you because you're acting like a fucking idiot.

I watched Wolf on Wall Street. It was alright. Too long but then so was the flight I was on. I certainly didn't consider him to be a hero though.

Anyway, unless you've read the book you may be acting a little harsh. With DiCaprio playing the lead the original story was probably that he was a fine upstanding member of the community who did his best to curb everyone's excesses AND NEVER ACTUALLY FUCKED ANY OF THE LEAD CHARACTERS, but had a contractual clause to change the storyline so that he was edgy and cool and WHAT THE SHIT WAS THE COMPUTER GAME SCENE ALL ABOUT I FUCKING HATE DANNY BOYLE.

I'm in the haven't watched The Wolf of Wall Street camp, and that's a deliberate decision for pretty much the same reasons already listed here.

At some point I probably will watch it (I'm not a total refusenik on the film), but whenever it crosses my mind to finally get round to watching it a relay somewhere in my brain trips and I pass, and I suspect it's because (1) We already know full well what this lot were up in the 80s, 90s and 00s - and we know where it ended up. Then (2), as I understand it the film doesn't really condemn the protagonist in the final analysis, plus of course, he basically got away with it in real life too and is still fucking laughing his arse off.

Like I said, I'll watch it at some point and make my own mind up, (mostly because I love Scorsese and DiCaprio has ended up really good too), but I can totally understand the perspective of folks who just think it'll piss them off too much to even press the play button to start with.

In fact, I will watch the film sooner rather than later, this has all piqued my interest somewhat. And I can't imagine Scorsese being an apologist for Jordan Belfort. I really hope he isn't.....

Why do people keep saying DiCaprio ended up a really good actor? He started off a really good actor. His performances in What's Eating Gilbert Grape and The Basketball Diaries are amazing, even if you aren't taking into account his incredible youth.

Don't do that, just decide what you think and then tell anyone who enjoyed it that they're obviously not as fucking right on as you are.

I deliberately chose the phrases 'in some small way' and 'contributes to his success' precisely because I'm not making any claim about a direct link between someone watching the film and his wallet. There are indirect forces though, yours being a good example, which people might care about if they're morally disgusted by his success. Which everyone really should be.

Titanic.

Was made after the films I cited.

And he acted just fine in that.

But that was most people's first exposure to him, and rightly or wrongly the film gets a lot of criticism and he suffers by association.

Yes, as career decisions go it was sink or swim

You're really taking this personally that some of us don't want to watch it. It's just a film.

Yes, I'm a complete fucking idiot for not wanting to watch a movie that will annoy me.

Can you tell me what I want for lunch tomorrow too?

"I'm not right wing enough to enjoy it" etc.

Well, obviously that's far worse than repeatedly calling someone a fucking idiot for not wanting to watch a film.

I said you were "acting like a fucking idiot" with specific regard to your opining wrong-headedly about a film you haven't even seen, so yeah it is worse.

Do you need to watch a snuff film to know it's not for you?

Apart from I wasn't doing that.

Maybe if you're a good person (meaning you) then the movie plays out differently in terms of what you take out of it. But I know for damn sure that duck loads of people in the city, where I work, took it as an aspirational thing. Being the guy who's smart enough to manipulate others to get that rich and get that lifestyle? Amazing! Lose your friends and family and get fucked up on drugs? That's fine! Spend a bit of time in prison but are still a millionaire afterwards? Totally worth it!

It's likely a good film. If I saw it normally I'm almost sure I would like it. I'm just unable to take it like that now. It's a failing of mine, but I'll get too annoyed during it and it will upset me. Or if I don't, then I'll end up hating myself for other reasons.

So I'll give it a miss.

No.

But to get back to the subject at hand I would not need to see a controversial film by a really good director before deciding whether I could be bothered with it. However I certainly would need to see it before going into detail and telling people who had seen it stuff like this:

They aren't the heroes, everyone else on here has said the same. If I thought that we were supposed to be admiring him, which is what Curiosity says here, then I would think it was well off and would have come away not liking it at all. But having actually seen the film I don't believe this is the point, at all. Indeed I think it's the exact fucking opposite of the point.

Well there's really no accounting for that, just like some people didn't realise Alf Garnett was meant to be awful, or someone might watch Hannibal and decide that being a serial killer looks like a fun thing to do.

Big Apple Hot Dogs.

Bleecker.

::clique-glares::

Soup...

Nuts

Quote the bit you're replying to, you lazy buggers.

Waffles.

Yeah, I know, but it still tarnishes it for me, especially given how Belfort ended up rich and largely unrepentant, so no matter that he's portrayed as a dick, he still ultimately has 'won' (depending on your rules, obv). The people who think like him and act like him and do see him as a hero (but all consider themselves as smarter, so don't believe the bad parts will happen to them) will sadly continue to be successful and run the country, and U guess I'm not in the right frame of mind to be seeing that.

And now for something completely different. My favourite film theme tune for absolutely aeons is Legend



It's a toss up between this and the closing theme from Steve Poliakov's 'Tribe' for the music for my funeral.

Bollocks - link not working, hence URL instead..... As you were, I suck at the Internet.

Cockneys Vs zombies: surprisingly entertaining, enjoyably corny and over the top but with enough humour to not take itself too seriously.

Strippers Vs werewolves: Other than the 'ooh were they in: hollyoaks, eastenders or what?' game it was very boring. Fell asleep. Some boobs and bums can't save this tripe. Avoid.

Also: Michelle Ryan.

Indeed, that was by far the best thing about it. I wonder what ever happened to her? I thought she was really good in the Bionic Woman.

Steve Jobs: does a decent job of not overhyping each product - not glossing over the mac's failure etc. - possibly at the expense of a story. I was still gripped, I'm just not sure why, I suppose the performances. The conceits they've used are Jobs' relationship with the daughter he denies, and product launches - we don't see the launches themselves, but the build up, which gives a chance for Jobs to meet Scully, or Woz, or whoever, and talk things out. On a small screen you might get distracted and lose interest, but I enjoyed it, if the ending seemed a bit arbitrary.

I read this article today and then remembered this question you asked. Might be interesting reading for you.

http://jezebel.com/im-so-damn-tired-of- ... l_facebook

Watched the Hateful Eight last night, very disappointing, a three hour film in which not much of anything happens...even the trademark Tarantino dialogue seemed absent.