Be Excellent To Each Other

Done. Pretty in Pink too. It was okay, but I probably wouldn't bother with it again. Not sure what's next yet.

Some kind of Wonderful

Yes, Grim... Mentioned this on Facebook. It doesn't ring any bells, but it's on the to-watch list. Trying to aquire Mannequin too.

Sixteen Candles.
Weird science
Commando
Robocop

I enjoyed BvS more than I expected, but yeah, needed a touch more humour. There were some good one-liners but the rest of the film was so bleak it just felt forced.

All this talk of 80s moveis has made me watch Flight of the Navigator.

It' not quite how I remmeber it.

For a start, I don't remember it opening with Slow Mo Dog Testicles. But apparently, that's a thing.

Re: Your question, I have not seen the film but the bits of it in the trailer seem to be directly lifted from "Superman: Red Son", a 'what if' comic about Superbaby landing in The Ukraine, rather than the US...and ending up fighting 'Soviet' Batman.

Revenge of the nerds

The Whoopee boys

Ghostbusters?

I need to look up Sixteen Candles.

Good call, so good in fact we watched it not that long ago.

Ok, let's see...

Mainstream choices....
Beverley hills cop.
Terminator
American werewolf in London
Labyrinth.
Lost boys
Flash Gordon

Less well known.
The outsiders
Warriors
Red dawn
By dawns early light

It's the 4th instalment in a series of movies about a general store owner and his downtrodden assistant.

I've never seen Breakfast at Tiffany's. That's about 20 years before the 80's but that's next on my list.

Just watched Get Smart. I have a real urge to staple someone on the head.

Wuh? I mean I know what Red Son is but I've no idea what you think the link is with BvS.

Nice.

It's excellent. Prepare to fall in love with Amanda Jones.

That was one dream sequence. You obviously forgot all about the other.

Possibly, though I've rewatched a couple of the trailers and I'm still not seeing it.

I had to go back through a few trailers to find that section, I genuinely don't remember it from the film. Yeah, fair enough, though I don't think it's a reference, I think it's just an extension of

Argo is a bit good, innit?

Yup.

Having thought about it. Perhaps DC want it to be dark as a counter to the chirpiness of Marvel.

I think it being serious helped it,

Yeah but then don't force in one-liners. It didn't work.

I didn't hate the film, it just could have been much much more. It's such a fascinating concept.

I think Alfred had the one liners, other than the I thought she was with you bit

It doesn't matter who had the one liners man, the point is that you can't set a tone of crushing grimness then try to shove in some jokes.

The jokes in of themselves were pretty good. I just couldn't raise a smile by that point.

BvS.



Overall, decent. Could have been better, but not half as bad as the reviews made it out to be.

Haven't seen BvS, not entirely fussed tbh. The sad Ben Affleck video is quite brilliant though: https://youtu.be/cwXfv25xJUw

It is! I like Ben Affleck.

He is actually very good as Batman.

I watched The Town last night (on a bit of an Affleckathon) and he was very good in that too.

I watched The secret life of Walter Mitty the other day.

It was basically an excuse for Ben Stiller to travel the world and go to nice places. It was alright. Not fantastic though.

I like Owen Wilson films.

I suppose Batman is grumpy, as you are planning to fight a god that can kill you easily if you fuck up,

He's grumpy because this is a Batman at the end of his career who's suffered through loads of shit (e.g. the Joker killing Robin) hence why he's so paranoid and negative about Superman. One of the few aspects of the film that I thought made sense, even though it's not really setup as obviously as it could be.

Is it really Batman at the end of his career? I thought this was a brand new batman? I thought this is the first Affleck/Batman movie, with presumably countless more on the horizon.

I bet DC really fucking wish they had thought about an expanded universe back when Nolan was doing the Batman movies. Not that those would have been a perfect base for building everything else on, but it would be better than trying to shortcut to Justice League as quickly as possible.

Contrasting DC's approach with Marvel's, no doubt DC will be able to get bums on seats for future Superman, Batman and Justice league movies, much like the Avengers and Iron Man/Captain America/Thor/etc will, even if they eventually reach diminishing returns. However I don't think DC will be able to pull off the likes of Guardians of the Galaxy to the same extent. It's rather telling that Batman and Joker are in Suicide Squad to make sure people go and see it.

I don't think the Marvel movies are perfect, but it's undeniable that the reason Avengers worked as well as it did was because they took the time to introduce viewers to the individual characters over time, and the Avengers movie was a story with more of a focus on them working together as an ensemble than building a universe to make future movies in.

It's a 'brand new' Batman, but they show that he has been doing the job for years, and is more cynical and weary because of it.

It's also a different kind of Batman in that he has no issue with shooting the fuck out of loads of people and killing them. I'm not actually bothered by that as I feel it ties in with the first point, but I believe that some purists are mightily offended.

Both Avengers movies have most of their plot being that the Avengers really suck at working together, until the finale fight.

Go and watch it...

They have not started Batman off as being young.. more that were are seeing an aging Batman/Bruce Wayne.

Wasn't the joker always in the Suicide Squad?

Also Doesn't DC, have to take a different approach or it would be Marvel in different clothes. I like the darker Batman, more of the Dark Knight.

I'm probably over-egging it by saying he's at the end of his career but Alfred makes a remark about them having been at it for 20 years and so it's definitely meant to be a Batman who's been at it a while. I'm sure the Dark Knight Returns version of Batman has been cited as an influence in this version because of all that. It is a bit strange to do that when you're about to start setting up a whole series of further films but I just added that to the pile of shit that didn't make much sense.

Perhaps the explanation will be in a different film, i like not being told everything, or being walked through films.
It also gives a nod to the comic fans.


What did not make sense?

He's never been part of the Suicide Squad in the comics; and I doubt he will be even in the film version.



Well, 'generally making shit films' is certainly a different approach from 'generally making decent films' but I'm not sure it's a brilliant move.

So the (recent, actually relevant) death of Robin doesn't need to be mentioned, but clearly it's well worth telling everyone all over again how Batman's parents were killed decades ago? Okay.

There's a difference between not overly explaining stuff vs chucking things in with no context at all. The camera in this film makes a point of lingering on the suit long enough for you to know you're supposed to get something from it but on it's own it's going to be completely meaningless to most people. Even to comic fans it was implemented so badly as to be a confusing mis-step. I read the comics and know the back story but didn't even realise from that single short shot that it was actually a Robin costume so it was lost even on me. That's just straight up badly handled as it would've have taken much to properly contextualise that.

I thought it was obviously a Robin suit. Guess you're not very perceptive seeing as you can't even remember the dream sequences.