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There's not nearly enough people on here talking about Attack on Titan. This disappoints me greatly.


Started to watch the live action version on Saturday night (well actually I fast forwarded through some talky stuff to get to the Titan action).

Very impressed with the Titan animation (especially the ickle cute toddler titan)...even if they are just peeps in costumes filmed ala Godzilla.

...I then fell asleep, will watch properly later.

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I got it from the rental shop, so I'll watch it a bit later.

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I watched Six Degrees Of Separation yesterday. It was not the film I had suspected it to be.

Firstly, it starred Will Smith (not Kevin Bacon, so making the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon one degree more removed... but that's OK)

Secondly, though the film is 25 years old, Will Smith is the same age as he is now, and I spent about 70% of the film wondering what kind of voodoo that man is up to.

Thirdly, you get to see Will Smith have some gay sex, so if that's your thing, it's on Netflix. Or at last you see the aftermath of it. At the least you get to see his bum, I'm pretty sure.

Lastly, though it is sort of linked to the idea that our lives are all interconnected, it's really all about a group of people finding out the motivations of this young guy, whilst we hate their own bratty kids.

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The Man From U.N.C.L.E. - Good stylish fun. Cavill in particular was excellent and brilliantly suave. And the guy doing the gravel voiced thing as Cavill's boss. He was brilliant in Mad Men and also in his brief small role in Poltergeist. (Different accent every time!) Oh and loved the vampy performance of the evil Elizabeth Debicki (who made me think of Iggy Azaelea and coincidentally also turned out to be Australian). Armie Hammer not quite so impressive but his role is quite under developed. Would love some more of this.

Trainwreck - A quite unpleasant film of someone being quite unpleasant but then has a tacked on love story which doesn't feel at all real or believable. Lead character is just an unpleasant person and I dislike male characters like this so why would I like a female character like this? I hugely admire Tilda Swinton's brilliant chamelonic powers playing a rather crass boss into the sleazy news stories, the boss who is your 'chum' but only in an utterly hateful way to try and exploit you for their own ends. But yeah this was seriously not my cup of tea.

Fantastic Four - While not incredible I found it perfectly fine. Sure Susan's hair has an unfortunate habit of changing between real and a slightly odd looking wig but it didn't lack the third act as most people claimed. Person invents thing, thing is used and causes some stuff to happen to the people using it, person left behind comes back causes some potentially word destroying havoc and is then stopped. Nothing wrong with that. The thing looked superb I thought and fortunately the rumour that he turns back and forth depending on his emotions turned out to be false. Harmless sci fi fun, over nice and quick. I wish more were over in that time...

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Her hair/wig changes depending on whether it was footage originally shot by the director, or reshoots that the studio insisted on. It's actually quite a handy device. Dunno why they didn't just get a better wig.


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It is peculiar how they couldn't seem to find a wig that looked at all convincing. I wonder what the original version the director had in mind was like. Still I've seen vastly more hateable movies than this. This is probably my second favourite f4 movie. I love Silver Surfer, I think that was hugely enjoyable. Hated the last reboot and while the Corman production is quite amusing it is just a comedy sketch really so doesn't properly count.

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This morning was filled with Attack on Titan noise and now there is no noise. I can't help but feel a twinge of sadness in my breast.


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This morning was filled with Attack on Titan noise and now there is no noise. I can't help but feel a twinge of sadness in my breast tatties.


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Paper Towns - Largely boring and derivative teen coming of age flick. Nice to sleep to.

Gemma Bovery - Largely boring and derivative drama about a bored housewife having sex. In france.

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She seemed to like it


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Last night we watched The Babadook. I remember a few folks mentioning it on here some months ago, and a friend mentioned it the other day and said it was on Netflix so we decided to give it a go.

I'm not entirely sure how I feel about the film. I can appreciate it on some levels
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I watched it in terms of the Babadook being the son's materialisation of the mother's grief: how he was trying to protect her, building up an arsenal to try and fight what I guess what the manifestation of her depression and the barrier that it put up between the two.


But in terms of the actual 'horror' scenes playing out, it just felt really flat. I don't know if it is because I always expect some kind of creeping fear from anything that is put into the horror genre, but there wasn't even the mildest fright or even sensation of unease, which I think would have perhaps enhanced the empathy that you might feel for the character of the son.

I think that as a
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exploration of the manifestation, evolution and coping mechanisms of a child's reaction to grief, depression and I guess mental illness
it was a good way of contextualising these in a child's imagination, but beyond that, in simple viewing terms, it felt a bit 'blah' once the horror bits started competing with the exploration of the relationship between the two.

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I don't really consider Babadook a horror film. it is more a psychological drama of much distress.

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The Man From U.N.C.L.E. is pretty great.

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Yes, I think you're correct. But it's placed in 'horror' most places I have seen so I came to the filim thinking it to be such.

I think that's partly the reason I felt disappointed. Strangely, though, if it had left the horror elements out I still would have enjoyed it. I think it just deserved to be either a horror film that actually contained horror, or just a really good psychological drama. As it was the mild elements of one detracted fykmvrge urged.

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I don't think The Man From UNCLE was meant to be scary.

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I watched Starry Eyes recently and that is a great horror movie that doesn't really have much in the way of supernatural elements, but is creepy and psychological and ++good.


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Yeah, sorry, I must have skipped by that post. Or maybe it is SUPER IGNORE!

(It's not really super ignore)

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Yes, I think you're correct. But it's placed in 'horror' most places I have seen so I came to the filim thinking it to be such.

I think that's partly the reason I felt disappointed. Strangely, though, if it had left the horror elements out I still would have enjoyed it. I think it just deserved to be either a horror film that actually contained horror, or just a really good psychological drama. As it was the mild elements of one detracted fykmvrge urged.


It was still quite hard on the nerves. But yes more metaphorical than a full on 'horror'. The exorcist was really about pedophobia I've heard but it can still be regarded as a straight horror film. I thought the Babadook was very well played and quite hard to watch for its intense disturbing situations.

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Yes, I think you're correct. But it's placed in 'horror' most places I have seen so I came to the filim thinking it to be such.

I think that's partly the reason I felt disappointed. Strangely, though, if it had left the horror elements out I still would have enjoyed it. I think it just deserved to be either a horror film that actually contained horror, or just a really good psychological drama. As it was the mild elements of one detracted fykmvrge urged.


The following spoiler is a copy and paste from an excellent Reddit thread about this film, the whole thread is worth reading IMO but this in particular is an excellent post. Thread is here - https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comme ... iscussion/

I think this is a film that really benefits from being watched twice, I found it far more unsettling and disturbing than most horror films I've seen in recent memory. The abuse and violence is real, the terror of the protagonists is real, but the monster is crippling depression fuelling hatred and despair - poisoning that most sacred of relationships, a mother to a child.

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It's been mentioned that there is no shortage of female protagonists in the horror genre- but there has been a shortage of female fears (besides rape, which at this point is almost cliche fantasy for manufacturing meaning in a stale script). This is a true female antihero who embodies truly female horrors of depression, loneliness, disconnection, inability to maintain a house or health/appearance, and the unforgivable-- ill feelings towards her children despite really wanting to love them and be a good mother.

normally when we see a woman who mistreats her children it's totally far gone, like the moms in Carrie or American Horror Story, or Martha and George. we don't believe there is any good in them, so we don't feel bad hating them. maybe they have a moment where it seems like they regret being bad or try to justify their decisions, but they are so corrupted and unrecognizable we don't mourn their corruption. this mother is totally different and it's way scarier to see her trying so damn hard but things just keep slipping away from her.


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I really think you're onto something there. My interpretation, after reading your comment, is that all along she's been succumbing to these psychotic episodes and terrifying/abusing her child, though she always snaps out of it and realizes what she's done1. So being a children's book author and someone that does genuinely at times seem to love her child, she decides to create a book to try to provide him with an explanation a child might understand2. Because when it comes down to it, no kid Samuel's age is ever going to understand or even be able to come to grips with the fact that his Mom, at times, actually wants to kill him. So to protect him, she convinces him that it's actually a monster that's making her act that way. This explains why he's able to continue loving her unconditionally and retain some semblance of sanity. It also explains why he seems so practiced at combatting his mother when she finally attacks him (because she's done it before). He believes it isn't actually his mother doing these things, but it's the Babadook causing her to do them, so he can continue loving her and confront the abuse like he might confront a monster - something easier to understand than psychosis and clinical depression.

I, like others, found it odd and somewhat anticlimactic that she "defeats" the Babadook by screaming at it, but thinking back I interpret this as both a show she puts on for Samuel and also a psychological and physical release for her (as we all know a good scream can provide). It's interesting to note that this happens immediately after Samuel is thrown into the wall a few times by whom we can assume is his mother. Looking back on the scene, it's a powerful moment. Her maternal instinct defeats her psychotic tendencies caused by her crippling depression. In that respect, it's actually an extremely powerful scene and far more meaningful than traditional horror film climaxes. She needs to convince Samuel that the monster was real, she has finally confronted it, and that she's locked it in the basement where it will never fully go away, but be contained and managed day by day (just like real depression).

So back to the worms - why does she have Samuel collect worms for the Babadook? You had it right, @cypripediums; it's something a child might think a monster would eat. Which fits the narrative above perfectly. She is perpetuating the fantasy of her battle with the Babadook by telling Samuel she needs to feed it worms, because it's something Samuel can understand and continue to contribute to3. The truth is that she isn't actually feeding anything worms down in the basement, she's looking at all her husbands stuff - stuff she used to keep locked away and not confront. Just like with any mourning process, there are good days and bad days, and she explains this to Samuel by saying that Babadook was "quiet" today. This actually means she was able to let the sorrow of nostalgia wash over her and absorb it rather than let it overwhelm her and trigger another psychotic/depressive episode.

This movie reminded me a lot of Fight Club (obviously) and What Dreams May Come. It's a fantastic, beautiful, and horrifying view into the world of depression and psychosis.

Additional thoughts that popped into my head as I wrote my comment above:

1 - It sends a chill up my spine to realize the way she tries to make up for her abusive episodes in the typical way that abusive parents do; offering to take them to their favorite restaurant, letting them order as much ice cream as they want, allowing them to stay up past their bed time, etc. It's even creepier to realize she's been neglecting her kid so badly that he's starting to starve.

2 - The book seems to just appear in Samuel's room, and he chooses it on his own, but she was the one who made it and put it there. She even puts her own face in it. She's smart in this regard because he is able to come to his own conclusions that it's a monster causing her to act that way. But it's clear how much distress it causes her to even confront her inner demons in this childish form because she can't even make it through the book with Samuel. She promptly tears it apart because she wants to deny her issues. In a moment of lucidity not portrayed in the film, she pieces it back together, continues working on it, and predicts (accurately) that left un-checked, her depression will result in her killing everyone she loves including herself. The book as much a coping device for her son as it is a wakeup call for herself. When she finally burns the book, it signifies she has completely given into depression, and obviously what follows is her killing her dog and attempting to kill her son.

3 - It's interesting to note that his contributions are completely ineffective, including his home-alone style attacks, as you might expect for a victim of child abuse. But it empowers Samuel and also shields him from a truth that's too horrible for any child to confront - his mother resents him and at times wants him dead.


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I think it probably didn't help that I wasn't that interested in the film as it progressed because

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I dismissed the monster from the start, and kept exclaiming how everything about the monster could be explained as her being mentally ill all the way through. If it turns out that the 'twist' as such that it was her own depression and stuff all along, then I kind of already got it, which perhaps detracted from my enjoyment of it as a horror film.

Although I did like the fact that you thought it would be the kid who was 'possessed' when actually it was the mother.

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Cheers, Hearthly. That looks like an interesting read. I'll have a proper sit down and read through it once I'm up and my brain is properly awake as it looks a worthwhile thread to look at :)

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I think this is a film that really benefits from being watched twice, I found it far more unsettling and disturbing than most horror films I've seen in recent memory. The abuse and violence is real, the terror of the protagonists is real, but the monster is crippling depression fuelling hatred and despair - poisoning that most sacred of relationships, a mother to a child.


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Watched Straight Outta Compton yesterday and it was a bit shit. The individual scenes were generally okay but taken as an ongoing narrative it was a mess. And the very final scene was proper soap opera cheesy bullshit.


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Two Days, One Night

It was competent, specially on the acting part, but i didn't found it that much interesting and it was quite boring in parts



Arabian Nights: Part 1 - The Restless

I loved the previous films of this director (Miguel Gomes), and this one is as good as those. It's still in his very unique, post-modern style, and still very funny. I thought he was going to get really big, but judging from this daring film, i guess he's just not interested in going mainstream. And maybe we're better of because of it. (http://www.theguardian.com/film/2015/ju ... rain-burst)


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Just watched Pixels, I was surprisingly impressed. Very funny and silly, kept the kids quiet for the full length of the film.

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That's not the film, that's just the natural response to watching anything with Adam Sandler in it.


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As it was the mild elements of one detracted fykmvrge urged.


Another awesome Mimi typo there. :)

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Just watched Pixels, I was surprisingly impressed. Very funny and silly, kept the kids quiet for the full length of the film.


I'm not falling for that.


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Just watched Pixels, I was surprisingly impressed. Very funny and silly, kept the kids quiet for the full length of the film.


I'm not falling for that.


I'd go with with Kov said to be honest. I don't care much for Adam Sandler, but he made a couple of the sort of crap jokes I make all the time as well as some that I could see would be funny to a lot of people, but just don't work for me. I don't really do American comedy (don't really do pop British comedy either), but I went into it expecting it to be a film about computer games from the 80s coming to life and attacking the earth, and that's pretty much what I got. I took my 12 year old son and 6 year old daughter and they both loved it too.

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Defending Adam Sandler movies. *sigh* What's happened to you Beex?


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Wolverine is really not very good at all,and I have a fairly high threshold for xmen movies.

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Just watched 'Horns'.

Daniel Radcliffe plays a lad whose girlfriend is killed and he is the main suspect. He then grows devil horns and suddenly everything goes strange.

Based on a book by Joe "Don't call me Stephen King's son!" Hill.

It's really atmospheric and goes really well for a good while, until the denouement, which doesn't quite work for me. But I did enjoy most of it a lot.

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Wolverine is really not very good at all,and I have a fairly high threshold for xmen movies.


Which one? Not that it matters, they're both a load of toss.


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Not Origins, which I quite like, but the Wolverine Goes to Japan one.

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Defending Adam Sandler movies. *sigh* What's happened to you Beex?

I'll defend Happy Gilmore, Longest Yard, Little Nicky and The Water Boy until the day I die. I've also got good things to say about Big Daddy.

Apart from that, though, yeah. I mean I watched fucking Jack and Jill, man.

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Not Origins, which I quite like, but the Wolverine Goes to Japan one.


Aye, Origins was slightly better, though still not very good I don't think (largely because their version of Deadpool was awful and nothing in the world is made better by the involvement of ubercunt will.i.am), but The Wolverine was pretty much a waste of time.


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Japan Wolverine spoiler:
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And he would have died from adamantium poisoning the moment his mutant power was taken away
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And he would have died from adamantium poisoning the moment his mutant power was taken away
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He never totally lost his mutant power; it was just being suppressed.

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Neither of the Wolverine movies are perfect, but they are both watchable.

I think I prefer Origins, because I'd really wanted to see Darren Aronofsky's take on Wolverine but then that didn't happen.


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Japan Wolverine spoiler:
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And he would have died from adamantium poisoning the moment his mutant power was taken away
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He never totally lost his mutant power; it was just being suppressed.

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In the comics when Magneto ripped the adamantium out of him (in Fatal Attractions, I think), his healing ability went into super-overdrive, and Professor X told him that was because his healing ability spent 99% of it's time making sure he didn't drop dead due to adamantium poisoning. Even if it was only slightly diminished, Wolfie* be toast.

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*That Wolfie, at least. When it was put back again they'd improved the bonding process so (like with Bullseye), having Adamantium inside you is no longer deadly, and Wolverine kept his "heal faster" ability.

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Inconsistencies in the medium of comics and the adaptations thereof? Utterly shocking.


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45 years. Gentle, slow, all about the performances; I liked it, but it didn't take me anywhere, emotionally.


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This is hilarious:

http://www.theverge.com/2015/9/9/9288009/legend-movie-poster-advertising-is-evil


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Just watched 'Chappie'.

Really enjoyed it. Much better than I was expecting.

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