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Brilliant, i quite enjoyed ST:B

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I've not seen Beyond yet. Is it better than the last one?

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I still haven't seen the second one. Just can't summon the will.


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I still haven't seen the second one. Just can't summon the will.

Yeah don't bother.

I liked the first one.

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Lonewolves wrote:
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I still haven't seen the second one. Just can't summon the will.

Yeah don't bother.

I liked the first one.


Apparently the third one is better, following the longstanding tradition of every other Star Trek film being good (subs please check).

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I thought the first one was a decent reboot if a little lightweight. Didn't really have much in the way of substance, but nailed the aesthetic, and did a decent enough job of doing the central Kirk/Spock relationship, and convincingly portrayed them learning to respect each other, and that they can work better together. Plays a bit fast and loose with the details of Star Trek (there's no way Kirk would have been made a captain that quickly within the bureaucracy of Starfleet, the timings of the turbolift was totally inconsistent), but it worked on an emotional level.

The second one was a total car crash that entirely squandered anything good the first one had done. They basically just did the same character dynamics as the previous film (despite the conclusions met by the end of previous film), and the script was just a load of nonsense to get between overblown CGI setpieces.

The third one at least had a comprehensible plot but was pretty much forgettable apart from that Sabotage scene.

It's kind of amazing to me that they did such a good job of casting, spunk so much money at the production of these films, but they don't seem to want to build them around what Star Trek is at it's best: An interesting exploration of hard sci-fi/philosophical issues through an accessible pulpy lens.

Oh god they are probably going to do a TNG reboot film series when this lot start to lose steam, aren't they? I guess it could work if they get Jason Stathem to pay Picard.


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Yeah, I really couldn't say if it was better or worse than the second one because most traces of that have now gone from my memory. This one is fading fast too, I thought it was pretty fucking stupid.


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The third one at least had a comprehensible plot but was pretty much forgettable apart from that Sabotage scene.


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The third one at least had a comprehensible plot but was pretty much forgettable apart from that Sabotage scene.


I can't stand it.


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nutters. The second one was great. The third one dragged a bit but was watchable.

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The second one was great.
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Edit -- I mean, just look at this shite.

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MrChris wrote:
The second one was great

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The second one was great.
jesus christ

Edit -- I mean, just look at this shite.

Edit 2 -- or this.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Major Plot hole: Admiral Marcus wants to create military weapons because of his raging hard-on for war. Problem is – Star Fleet is more about peace and discovery than intergalactic conflicts so he decides to bring someone frozen from the past to lend his nasty mind to the plan. His choice? Khan – a super-human frozen for more than 300 years. But wait, if the movie takes place around 2260, that means Khan was frozen in the 1960s. What the fuck would this guy know about phasers and warp-drives and spaceships if he got frozen right around the time humanity sent its first human in space? One other thing: did I miss something or cryogenic technology doesn't exist right now and even less so in the 1960s? How could Khan be successfully frozen in an era where refrigerators were not always successful at keeping Cheez Whiz cold for more than a week?
Crying

I'm not someone who usually cares about plot holes and am very good at casting an uncritical eye on films (at least the first time I see them), but this film was ridiculous.

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Which one was the one that staryed with red indiand tbrowung soears and then Sherlock Holmes turned up and they had a fight because Sherlick was a Space Pirate and akien snot made it all OK?

And Captain FancyPants drove a car in Iowa.

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Which one was the one that staryed with red indiand tbrowung soears and then Sherlock Holmes turned up and they had a fight because Sherlick was a Space Pirate and akien snot made it all OK?

And Captain FancyPants drove a car in Iowa.


I think that was just a fever dream brought on by too much Netrunner and homemade cider

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MrChris wrote:
The second one was great.
jesus christ

Edit -- I mean, just look at this shite.

Edit 2 -- or this.

It's a Star Trek film FFS.

I enjoyed it, that's what matters.

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MrChris wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MrChris wrote:
The second one was great.
jesus christ

Edit -- I mean, just look at this shite.

Edit 2 -- or this.

It's a Star Trek film FFS.

I enjoyed it, that's what matters.


Oh Arse, I actually agree with Mr Chris.

I enjoyed all 3 of the films. Order of enjoyment, 1, 3, 2

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Oh Arse, I actually agree with Mr Chris.

I enjoyed all 3 of the films. Order of enjoyment, 1, 3, 2


Then you don't agree with Mr Chris:

"The second one was great. The third one dragged a bit but was watchable."

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I thought it was okay. Horrifically, I found myself annoyed by the "let's show the pretty girl in her underwear" scene.

Damn yous, Myp.

Also, note that she just vanished somewhere between the second and third film, never to be mentioned again.

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Horrifically, I found myself annoyed by the "let's show the pretty girl in her underwear" scene.

Mate.

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Also, note that she just vanished somewhere between the second and third film, never to be mentioned again.

She did indeed. She wasn't really a strong enough character to stand up outside the role she played in progressing the plot for 2 though so it's hardly surprising.

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Grim... wrote:
I thought it was okay. Horrifically, I found myself annoyed by the "let's show the pretty girl in her underwear" scene.

Damn yous, Myp.

Also, note that she just vanished somewhere between the second and third film, never to be mentioned again.

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Zhe wasn't really a strong enough character to stand up outside the role she played in progressing the plot for 2 though so it's hardly surprising.

Where the hell did she progress it to? Nonsensetown? Shitsville? Crapburg?


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Just watched the third Star Trek movie, since we're talking about them.

Lots of fun, some absolutely absurd bits, and just as many plot holes as the second one.

I enjoyed it.

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Watched Independence Day: Resurgence over the last couple of nights

I always liked the first one and was looking forward to seeing what happened next

It was dire, didn't want to be put off by looking at RT first but can say the 31% score is about right :(

The first film was never standout but I liked the scale of the Alien ships, they can't even get that right in this one


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Curiosity wrote:
Just watched the third Star Trek movie, since we're talking about them.

Lots of fun, some absolutely absurd bits, and just as many plot holes as the second one.

I enjoyed it.


It did feel like an homage to the original series, which made it more enjoyable for me. Even down to the planet side locations which for all the world looked like they were made from fibreglass.

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Saw Hell or High Water the other night. I enjoyed it a lot. It's a modern western, in which two brothers take to robbing banks to pay off a mortgage on their farm. The premise makes it sound like a Mike Leigh film based in West Texas, but it's far from dour.

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Saw Hell or High Water the other night. I enjoyed it a lot. It's a modern western, in which two brothers take to robbing banks to pay off a mortgage on their farm. The premise makes it sound like a Mike Leigh film based in West Texas, but it's far from dour.

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Saw Hell or High Water the other night. I enjoyed it a lot. It's a modern western, in which two brothers take to robbing banks to pay off a mortgage on their farm. The premise makes it sound like a Mike Leigh film based in West Texas, but it's far from dour.


Yeah, that opinion seems pretty common.


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Watched Independence Day: Resurgence over the last couple of nights

I always liked the first one and was looking forward to seeing what happened next

It was dire, didn't want to be put off by looking at RT first but can say the 31% score is about right :(

The first film was never standout but I liked the scale of the Alien ships, they can't even get that right in this one


Agreed. It was crap. Absolute rubbish.


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Went to see Moana yesterday. It is a brilliant Disney film.

The songs are great and the chicken is awesome.

10/10 from me. I think I enjoyed more than my son.

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It also has the magic of Dwayne Johnson, so can't fail to be awesome.

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magic of Dwayne Johnson

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/if-you-s ... ooking-101

:D

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I read that from start to finish.

It's glorious. It may be one of the best things I've ever read. I love The Rock.

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"When you look at The Rock, you are fundamentally looking at a man who is mad that the boundaries of the human physique do not allow him to be more gigantic."

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That is an astoundingly fun read all the way through and has made my day immeasurably better. Thanks Rich! :)

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http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/if-you-s ... ooking-101


I must have read that ten times and it still makes me laugh.

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I must have read that ten times and it still makes me laugh.

Same. I read it again after looking up the link to post it, because of course I did.


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Also he breaks that cast off by merely flexing his muscles.


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Somewhere, the dude that played the truck driver in the original film is going "Fucking entire governments with tanks and planes and submarines can't stop them, but I fucked them up with a shotgun because they tried to steal my DVD players."

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Watch the David Brent movie last night.

Thought it was Ok, but not that funny. There is more focus on Brent's character , so its a bit like Derek in that respect.

With Derek, I always found myself laughing at Kev as he was just a total pig and how he behaved grabbed your attention from the way the rest of show ran.

With the film the "funny" bits are sort of the same as the Office so you have seen it all before.

Towards the end I found myself hoping that there would be a happy ending for Brent really

Not a bad film but its not got the freshness and laughs of the Office.


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I can't stand to see that man's face anymore. He's totally forgotten what made him funny in the first place. I don't think he's done anything good in the last ten years.

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I can't stand to see that man's face anymore. I don't think he's done anything good ever.


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It's rather telling that when you listen to interviews with him, he doesn't really understand what made The Office so good. I'm giving Stephen Merchant most of the credit.


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It's rather telling that when you listen to interviews with him, he doesn't really understand what made The Office so good. I'm giving Stephen Merchant most of the credit.

Nah, Merchant's solo stuff has been guff as well, but I wonder if he's suffered from the same issues. They just obviously seemed to hit upon one or two very good ideas and worked well together. I still watch the Office and Extras now.

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I watched The Office for the first time at the weekend. Just left it running in the background while I was on the laptop so I was listening more than watching, but I didn't find it all that funny. In something like Alan Partridge, the main character is an idiot, but in the Office, it's an unlikable idiot, so paid less attention to the scenes with Brent in.

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I still watch the Office and Extras now.


I missed Extras first time around and have recently watched the lot on Amazon but found it quite difficult viewing at times. Don't get me wrong, the majority of it was funny especially the exchanges with Stephen Merchant and Barry from Eastenders, but a lot of it did seem to revolve around the 'joke' of David Brent being gay/not gay/racist/not racist.


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I watched The Office for the first time at the weekend. Just left it running in the background while I was on the laptop so I was listening more than watching, but I didn't find it all that funny. In something like Alan Partridge, the main character is an idiot, but in the Office, it's an unlikable idiot, so paid less attention to the scenes with Brent in.


The American office expanded the David Brent character to make him more likable to appeal to the audience and I think it worked. It was a totally different show to the UK office but still very good I thought. It did lose it when Steve Carrell left though.


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