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 Post subject: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:28 
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Kicking of a Shmups thread in respect of Ikaruga Wednesday release.

Ikaruga then, bought it 2nd hand for Cube (£29 - hnggg! It'll be worth fuck all to trade in now :'( ) but after downloading the 360 demo and seeing it again in hi-def glory I had to bag it. Unfortunatley due to late night burnout it got too late to play/see, so after defeating the first boss I sloped off to bed. Can't wait to break out my Hori stick and put some serious time in.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:40 
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Your whore-y stick? I don't think I want to know.
I've got a copied version for the Dreamcast, and I'm terrible at it. To much to think about with all the black/white stuff for my little brain. I do enjoy a quick blast though.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:50 
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You can treat the polarity with different degrees of importance though.

You can switch like mad, and concentrate on chaining and charging or just switch occasionally so you're the best colour to soak up the predominant colour of the bullet hell sections.

I urge everyone with a 360 to give this shooter a go, well several goes please.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:51 
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I can understand the appeal but for me this game just sounds like a recipe for frustration and misery.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:53 
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so much difference playing ikaruga with a controlller or my lovely hori stick..
(incidentally, i was looking for info over hori when buying the stick, and thery didn't have a wiki page, so i started one, got deleted because it wasn't clear that hori was a notable company)

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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That bit where you're flying along and the tunnel is collapsing behind you - if you manage to do it without dying, that's a recipe for a massive adrenaline rush :)


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:00 
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Anyone still playing Omega 5 and/or REZ HD?

I must give them some more time as they both deserve it.

This weekends challenge for me is to finally complete the 'Eden' level on REZ, love the tune on that level sooooooo much. :luv: :kiss:

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:23 
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I still return to Omega Five now and again. I think it's completely ace.

I can't get through Level 2 on Arcade++ though. I can get halfway but I always take damage after the snake.

Brilliant game though and one of the few arcade games I've managed to 1CC. To be fair this one isn't that difficult (which is why I like it so much). Contra was much harder but if I can do it anyone can.

Ikaruga makes me cry. It's so unforgiving.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Level 2 of Omega 5 can be a headache, probably the toughest level in the game to get through unharmed.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:45 
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Bluce_Ree wrote:
I still return to Omega Five now and again. I think it's completely ace.

I can't get through Level 2 on Arcade++ though. I can get halfway but I always take damage after the snake.

Brilliant game though and one of the few arcade games I've managed to 1CC. To be fair this one isn't that difficult (which is why I like it so much). Contra was much harder but if I can do it anyone can.

Ikaruga makes me cry. It's so unforgiving.


Are you using the shield? Although you can only take one hit, your bar is still full so you can use the shield and let it deplete.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Zardoz wrote:
Level 2 of Omega 5 can be a headache, probably the toughest level in the game to get through unharmed.


yeah, i'd say that's fair and I reckon level 3 is one of the easiest (Booby lasers FTW).

i can't imagine taking no damage towards the end of level 4. everytime I beat the boss I always ended up with a few pixels of health left.

Jona, I tend to use Ruby as she's easier to score with (well for me anyway). I might give Tempest another go then. That little bloke with the sword would be alright but you'd never score a 30x combo with him.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:52 
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I'm a bit of a latecomer when it comes to shmups. I never used to enjoy them as a child on the Amiga, as they were just too hard.

I love Rez and Omega 5, however (probably because they're what's known as 'easy' in the shmup world). Ikaruga looks really good, but I just know it'll be far too hard for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Bluce, I think Jonarob's refering to the temporal shield thing that uses a little health, not the deflector shield that Tempest has.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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myoptika wrote:
Ikaruga looks really good, but I just know it'll be far too hard for me.


Have you tried the demo yet though?

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Zardoz wrote:
myoptika wrote:
Ikaruga looks really good, but I just know it'll be far too hard for me.


Have you tried the demo yet though?


Yes, I gave it a go and died straight away. I then read the instructions and got a bit further, but died again. I tried a third time and got a little bit further, but died again.

I haven't tried it again since. There's no way I'm buying a game if I can't even complete the demo first...


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Bluce_Ree wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
Level 2 of Omega 5 can be a headache, probably the toughest level in the game to get through unharmed.


yeah, i'd say that's fair and I reckon level 3 is one of the easiest (Booby lasers FTW).

i can't imagine taking no damage towards the end of level 4. everytime I beat the boss I always ended up with a few pixels of health left.

Jona, I tend to use Ruby as she's easier to score with (well for me anyway). I might give Tempest another go then. That little bloke with the sword would be alright but you'd never score a 30x combo with him.


I mean the invincibility shield that all characters have. Nothing can hit you when you use it, but it eats away at your health.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 13:16 
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myoptika wrote:
Yes, I gave it a go and died straight away. I then read the instructions and got a bit further, but died again. I tried a third time and got a little bit further, but died again.


Dude, that is kinda how all shooters work. It is tough, granted, but you are getting a bit further each time I'm sure you'd nail the 1st level eventually. If you don't actually enjoy it then fair enough fella.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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I was enjoying it, I just need to give it a bit more attention and haven't had much time for my Xbox this week.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 13:38 
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INVINCIBILITY SHIELD!?!!?!!

I totally forgot about that! That's the answer!

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Bluce_Ree wrote:
INVINCIBILITY SHIELD!?!!?!!

I totally forgot about that! That's the answer!


D'oh! Also, watch the highscore people playing, it really helps.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 13:55 
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This is a good thread

I too am late to shmups never really playing them until the last year or so. I second everything everyones saying about Omega 5 it is acebest. And level 2's a cunt.

Still only 1 Credited it with Sensi, but I can get to the boss with Booby. And I've not even started on ++ mode yet...

Ikargua TRUFAX: I gave it a 2 player go with Mr Dave and it's laggy as shit. People have been moaning about it elsewhere to, so I don't think it was just us. Terrible shame.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 14:00 
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I played Ikaruga with a friend. I hosted (20meg) and he's on an 8meg connection and it was horrible.

it settled down a bit afterwards but was never right.

Aegis Wing handled four players far smoother.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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There's an invincibility shield in O5? Cry.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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I boughted Omega5 the other day in lethargic response to all the aceness reviews by you lot. It is indeed most excellent, however I can only get to level 3 so far.

I would say however, that there is an opening for one of you all-knowing guys to knock up a quick BETEO GUIDE TO BEING EXCELLENT AT...OMEGA 5 as frankly I didn't know how to repel bullets with Tempest until I looked it up or that there was a shield thing. The ingame instructions are crap.

And if it ends up becoming a series I do of course claim it as my idea and will be claiming royalties on the name. About £2 a month should cover it.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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I'm going to go back and play Omegas 1-4 now.


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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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Are there any decent schmups on the PC or DS Lite, either horizontal or vertical? I'd quite like at least one. :(

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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DS not so much.

Horizontal Scrolling: Nanostray 1 and 2 (not played either really)

But Geometry Wars: Galaxy and Space Invaders Extreme are both really excellent in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Shmups
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The Touhou stuff on PC is good, if a little bit hard.

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