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| Author: | Mimi [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Rust |
What is rust? I mean - is it ruined metal or is it something that sits on top of metal? i think it is ruined metal, yes? Once something has rust can you remove it? If so will it always spring more rust - like gangrene, or if you clean or chip off the rust and look after it in a way to prevent more rust will it remain in it's current condition  My pasta machine has a spot of rust on it where he cupboard under the sink had a leak 
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Hangover kicked in yet? Rust is iron (or ferrous) oxide. It's corrosion of iron due to water and air contaminating it. You can get rid of rust by grinding the affected metal right back to the good stuff, then coating it with zinc or something else to stop it rusting again. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Hammerite. The Rust botherer. http://www.hammerite.com/global/products/index.html |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Myoptika is the last person I would've thought knew about rust. DON'T ASK ME WHY! |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Holy rusted metal batman! Mimi wrote: What is rust? I mean - is it ruined metal or is it something that sits on top of metal? i think it is ruined metal, yes? It is oxidised metal. Yes, ruined, in that it doesn't have the same properties as the metal it's formed out of. You don't want it on kitchenware because it makes the surface impossible to clean properly, and it doesn't look nice. Quote: Once something has rust can you remove it? Yes, but you can't return the metal to its original state, and the action of removing it tends to remove at least some "good" metal as well, so it ends up thinner. That might not be a problem though. Quote: If so will it always spring more rust - like gangrene, or if you clean or chip off the rust and look after it in a way to prevent more rust will it remain in it's current condition. It depends on the metal. Mild steel will rust in slightly humid air, so you need to protect it with paint or something. However yes, if you keep it dry it should be OK. Quote: My pasta machine has a spot of rust on it where he cupboard under the sink had a leak Kitchenware is normally stainless steel, which shouldn't rust. Chrome-plated steel will rust however, and the chrome plating is usually damaged at that point. Removing the rust can remove more of the plating and makes things worse Same thing if it is painted, except you can re-paint it yourself. |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
If the rust is only on the surface, you can easily remove it with a wire brush or scouring pad, then polish the metal back up. If you don't keep on top of it, though, it will eventually cause pitting which isn't very attractive, and will need work. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Thanks guys - it is on the roller of my pasta machine - the rest of the machine is chrome plated, but I htink that the rollers are just stainless steel - I managed to get most of the rust off yesterday with a screwdriver as a chisel (the spot of rust is very small - half a small fingernail size (fingernails should be a universally recognised form of measure) but where I had to remove the rust it has left a small dent, or little pits- I may coat it with that hammerite stuff as it is not for food use, just clay, so I have no problem with coating it - the indentation is very small and shallow and the paint may just even it out slightly so that my rolled clay isn't bumpy. I do not have a hangover, I feel fine (but hungry - Asda should hurry the bleep up with my food  )
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
http://www.4wheelplay.co.uk/autosol-chrome-aluminium-metal-polish-100g-p-25000158.html This stuff gets rid of rust from metal and chrome. It's like a cream and you rub it on and then buff it off. Lovely stuff. Car parts shops will have it or (spit) Halfords. Autoglymn do a version as well. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
 Rust is the actual metal that's eaten too much oxygen. You can brush off surface rust, but you're actually brushing off the top layer of rusty metal. If it's chrome plated, that might mean rubbing out the chrome completely.Since buying a Land Rover I'm relearning all about rust in ways I haven't since I owned a Mini. 
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
chinnyhill10 wrote: http://www.4wheelplay.co.uk/autosol-chrome-aluminium-metal-polish-100g-p-25000158.html This stuff gets rid of rust from metal and chrome. It's like a cream and you rub it on and then buff it off. Lovely stuff. Car parts shops will have it or (spit) Halfords. Autoglymn do a version as well. Autosol is fantastic. Great for really making your metal shine, and gets rid of tarnish and small imperfections due to its abrasiveness, but it won't get rid of pits. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
AceAceBaby wrote: :bulb: Rust is the actual metal that's eaten too much oxygen. Excellently true. The metal of your pasta roller needs to eat at regular intervals. It normally gets nourishment from scoffing any pasta you put through it, but as you haven't used it for a while, it's resorted to oxygen. Use it too much and the rollers get too fat to fit any pasta through. 
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
nynfortoo wrote: chinnyhill10 wrote: http://www.4wheelplay.co.uk/autosol-chrome-aluminium-metal-polish-100g-p-25000158.html This stuff gets rid of rust from metal and chrome. It's like a cream and you rub it on and then buff it off. Lovely stuff. Car parts shops will have it or (spit) Halfords. Autoglymn do a version as well. Autosol is fantastic. Great for really making your metal shine, and gets rid of tarnish and small imperfections due to its abrasiveness, but it won't get rid of pits. Indeed. However it makes your hands stink for ages after using it. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Good stink (WD40) or bad stink (Itchy bum)? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Dimrill wrote: Excellently true. The metal of your pasta roller needs to eat at regular intervals. It normally gets nourishment from scoffing any pasta you put through it, but as you haven't used it for a while, it's resorted to oxygen. Use it too much and the rollers get too fat to fit any pasta through. This post containts 58% more good science than an episode of Brainiac.
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
AceAceBaby wrote: Since buying a Land Rover Hello, fellow environment-hating buddy! What Land Rover have you got? |
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| Author: | Malabelm [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
chinnyhill10 wrote: However it makes your hands stink for ages after using it. I don't remember any stinks. It makes a right mess of whatever you decide to buff it off with though. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Mimi wrote: Thanks guys - it is on the roller of my pasta machine - the rest of the machine is chrome plated, but I htink that the rollers are just stainless steel - I managed to get most of the rust off yesterday with a screwdriver as a chisel (the spot of rust is very small - half a small fingernail size I'd rub that down with a brillo-pad or something and maybe put a bit of cooking oil on the rollers before you put it away for a long time. |
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| Author: | Tmuk [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
nynfortoo wrote: chinnyhill10 wrote: However it makes your hands stink for ages after using it. I don't remember any stinks. It makes a right mess of whatever you decide to buff it off with though. Maybe your hands just stink, Chinny? |
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Tmuk wrote: nynfortoo wrote: chinnyhill10 wrote: However it makes your hands stink for ages after using it. I don't remember any stinks. It makes a right mess of whatever you decide to buff it off with though. Maybe your hands just stink, Chinny? Perhaps they've changed the forumulation in the 10 years since I last used it. |
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| Author: | MrD [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 13:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
 To avoid wear, tear and rust, use it as little as possible. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 13:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
The 'rust' thread is next to the 'metal' thread on the front page. This pleases me. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 13:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Heavy. |
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| Author: | RuySan [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 13:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
and keep in mind there is no such thing as stainless steel. Some are more easy to stain than others, tough. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Thu Apr 10, 2008 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
It doesn't really worry me if it stains or not, really - as I say it isn't for food use and I don't actually care how the machine looks, but the smoothness of the rollers will affect my clay - still, I have re-examined it after a gentle massage with a wire brush (the pasta roller, not me) and it doesn't look quite as well now that most of the rust has been removed - there is a little pitting right over to one side, but I am going to get one the treatments mentioned here and give it a go with that to try and even it out a little. I'd just buy a new pasta machine as they are only £7 (from £20) in Argos at the moment but sold out everywhere, and Lancaster and kitchen gadgetry more advanced than a spoon do not go together. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 15:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Grim... wrote: Hello, fellow environment-hating buddy! What Land Rover have you got?  meep meep. 1985 2.5na Diesel 90. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 16:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Nice. If you're ever daarn saaarth in it and fancy a play in the mud, let me know. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 19:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
I am driving to Derbyshire tomorrow to visit Paddock. That's about as far south as I'll get I think. I'm not sure it would be a good idea to be stuck 300+ miles from home with a broken landie. 
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| Author: | Mimi [ Fri Apr 11, 2008 23:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
I thought that said ladle. |
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| Author: | metalangel [ Sat Apr 12, 2008 13:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
I'm surprised nobody has yet said the ever popular 'rust is actually a really slow form of burning'. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
Grim... wrote: daarn saaarth innit Londoners FTFY |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Rust |
kalmar wrote: Grim... wrote: daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahn saaaaaaaaahf innit guvnah. Londoners FTFY FTFY2. |
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