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| Author: | Shin [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:30 ] |
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It's okay, I'll feex it |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:30 ] |
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marktheheraldangels wrote: Your bro will know all this but as long as there was a cooker there before on it's own feed from the fusebox it will be fine. Some draw more than others, I think. The shower in our last rented place failed and the warranty service engineer refused to commission it; the cabling behind it was only rated for 9kW, not 11.5kW. Said it's a common problem, amateurs buy them as uprated models in B&Q and fit them without thinking they should uprate the mains feed at the same time.What's the power rating on an electric cooker, anyway? I've never had to deal with one (gas hobs FTW). |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:31 ] |
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MaliA wrote: I've got a pain around my heart again, it feels as if someone is squeezing it a bit. *looks across at JohnCoffey holding voodoo doll in his Hyundai Coupe* |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:31 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: GazChap wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: There is that way... as long as your mortage or renting folks are happy for you to do that. They don't give a shit as long as the building's insured. Also, electric cooker so inherently less likely* to set the place on fire than a gas cooker. * Probably. [/qoute] I think the rules have changed now, where you have to get professionals to fit stuff and do structural work. Or it can void you house insurance and the terms of your rent and mortgage. It is the reason electritions have to provide certification for the work now |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:33 ] |
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marktheheraldangels wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: GazChap wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: There is that way... as long as your mortage or renting folks are happy for you to do that. They don't give a shit as long as the building's insured. Also, electric cooker so inherently less likely* to set the place on fire than a gas cooker. * Probably. [/qoute] I think the rules have changed now, where you have to get professionals to fit stuff and do structural work. Or it can void you house insurance and the terms of your rent and mortgage. It is the reason electritions have to provide certification for the work now I can check with my mate who is a sparky.. But I would think you would not be allowed as it is not as simple as plugging in a socket or changing a light, also cookers need a hefty cooker |
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| Author: | Cras [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:36 ] |
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Fitting an appliance requires an NEIC certified installer, and a cooker must be separately fused. Anything else will void your insurance (and is actually a criminal offence for the installer, if he's not certified). |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:36 ] |
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It's just replacing the existing cooker, so (in theory) all of the wiring and fittings should be present already. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:37 ] |
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As long as Gaz's brother's certified, there's no problem - right? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:37 ] |
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If it's like for like, I think it's allowed. But if its 'new' I dunno. What I did was t get a 4way extension lead, and suspend it over the rafters in the garage to run the bike battery charger/inspection lamp/ circular saw from. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:37 ] |
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myoptinsel wrote: As long as Gaz's brother's certified, there's no problem - right? Correct - as long as the wiring is the new standard, otherwise he should (technically) refuse to fit it. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:38 ] |
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myoptinsel wrote: As long as Gaz's brother's certified, there's no problem - right? He isn't any more, but has been in the past. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:39 ] |
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I'm sorry, but I havent kept up with the current legislation. A shocking turn of events, but watt it is, regulation is good. Ohm insurance is worth checking out though, in case it isn't covered, or if someone diodes. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:41 ] |
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I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:52 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: I can check with my mate who is a sparky.. Replacement of an existing cooker is not covered by Part P and is not building control notifiable. Quote: But I would think you would not be allowed as it is not as simple as plugging in a socket or changing a light, It's no less simple than wiring a plug though. Quote: also cookers need a hefty cooker What? |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:56 ] |
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GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. |
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| Author: | Shin [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:56 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong.  Jesus, you'd think you were wiring a fucking bomb! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:57 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. I'm not. i happily march off into the abyss and take on jobs I've no hope of completing. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:57 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. I don't think it's so much the fear of the technical, it's the fear and confusion surrounding the over-legislation of it all, especially in a rented property. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:58 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: Quote: also cookers need a hefty cooker What? I was wondering this one as well. If it is like for like it is fine, it is only if you are fitting a new spur off a mains line is it an issue. |
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| Author: | ElephantBanjoGnome [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 13:59 ] |
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I just found a very suspicious wreck in EVE, that had been left there with a Strip Mining fitting and two T2 cargo expanders. Totally seemed like a bait trap, but there was nobody nearby as afaik you can't put cargo into a wreck as bait. So, I did stoled it, and now have free stuff worth 5m isk. The original owner isn't online, and has only been alive for 17 days. All round very weird. I'm now hiding in my station until the aggro counter runs out. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 14:00 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. I'm not really gonna get it checked out, I just wanted to use the "grill" pun somewhere  I can wire it up myself if need be, I did the original cooker that's in there and that's lasted fine for the three years I've been living there so far. |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 14:00 ] |
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Cras Cringle wrote: kalmarzipan wrote: GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. I don't think it's so much the fear of the technical, it's the fear and confusion surrounding the over-legislation of it all, especially in a rented property. Fair enough, I'm in a rented property too, but what they don't know won't get their knickers in a twist. Just farking do it 
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 14:01 ] |
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is cold amd i'm bored. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 14:59 ] |
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MaliA has a goatee. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:01 ] |
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Is my new sig too big? |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:10 ] |
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Massively so. I adblocked it on sight. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:12 ] |
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I'll make a smaller version then. Just thought I'd ask the question. |
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| Author: | markg [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:24 ] |
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On my second monitor which is set to 1024 it pushes the right hand side of the page out. |
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:26 ] |
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myoptinsel wrote: I'll make a smaller version then. Just thought I'd ask the question. I may not be the right person, I don't like the MaliA/Gazchap size of sig on this page either, Mark's is the right size. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:27 ] |
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Better? |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:30 ] |
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No. Too big. And shit. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 15:35 ] |
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Bounding Neville wrote: No. Too big. And shit. 
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:02 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: Cras Cringle wrote: kalmarzipan wrote: GazChap wrote: I'd better get it checked out, don't want to get grilled by the insurance company if anything goes wrong. People just live in terror of anything technical these days don't they? If your brother was a sparky he'll connect the wires to the right terminals and tighten them properly, and then nothing will go wrong. I don't think it's so much the fear of the technical, it's the fear and confusion surrounding the over-legislation of it all, especially in a rented property. Fair enough, I'm in a rented property too, but what they don't know won't get their knickers in a twist. Just farking do it Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:03 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. (Relax girls, he's married - Ed) |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:05 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. (Relax girls, he's married - Ed) Behave.... lol Plus I donlt think Gaz would want to zap Shin.... |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:06 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. If you mean "Does your electric cooker get inspected yearly?", the answer is no. Why on earth would it? |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:06 ] |
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Baubleyaro wrote: kalmarzipan wrote: Quote: also cookers need a hefty cooker What? I was wondering this one as well. If it is like for like it is fine, it is only if you are fitting a new spur off a mains line is it an issue. I meant hefty current..... my mind does wander off... sorry |
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| Author: | kalmar [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:06 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. If you mean "Does your electric cooker get inspected yearly?", the answer is no. Why on earth would it? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:07 ] |
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Jaqui Smith (Parliament channel, now) looks like an ex girlfriend of mine. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:07 ] |
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I think he means your rented accommodation. Ours was inspected quarterly. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:25 ] |
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I have already bought and wrapped most of my Christmas shopping now. The internest still has to deliver some goodies. I want to finish work now as I can feel manflu creeping all over me. |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 16:29 ] |
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kalmarzipan wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. If you mean "Does your electric cooker get inspected yearly?", the answer is no. Why on earth would it? No the property, plus you should have an electrical safety certificate. Provided by your landlord. I think it is every 12 - 24 months. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:05 ] |
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Kovacs Caprios wrote: MaliA wrote: Kovacs Caprios wrote: Don't yout get inspected yearly? I did when I was rented. (Relax girls, he's married - Ed) Behave.... lol Plus I donlt think Gaz would want to zap Shin.... You've obviously never met (snip - Jacqui Smith) |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:07 ] |
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Jacqui Smith is a Rabbi? |
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| Author: | Plissken [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:14 ] |
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My Dad is 3/4 Jewish. They had a power failure during the circumcision. |
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| Author: | Dimrill [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:15 ] |
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I'm half jewish. I've got a twoskin. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 17:17 ] |
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Electrical goods sales assistants: When I want to buy something, I pay you money, and you give me the item. If you insist despite my refusal that you need to take all my personal details for some warranty nonsense, I'll just leave and buy what I want from play.com 
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| Author: | Dudley [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 18:18 ] |
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Who you give all your personal details to... I'm assuming you weren't buying a TV related item, if so then it's not their fault I'm afraid. |
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| Author: | AceAceBaby [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 18:23 ] |
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iPod Touch. I was paying by card in the store anyway. 
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| Author: | chinnyhill10 [ Mon Dec 15, 2008 18:25 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Jaqui Smith (Parliament channel, now) looks like an ex girlfriend of mine. Did she also used to be a man? 
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