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What does a five year old know about sexual misconduct!?!?!?!?

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Malc

Hmm. They perhaps thought it was funny to take their clothes off? Christ only knows, TBH. What does a five year old know about anything? Why would you suspend one?

If a 5 year old takes of his/her clothes that's hardly the same as a 12 year old doing it tho is it?

It's not "sex" it's just "silly and funny" (I mean in the eyes of a 5 year old)

Malc

Around where I live the difference between a 5 year old child brought up with manners, and a 5 year old dragged up by scally cunts is extremely obvious.

Back when we moved in, and the local little girls came around to see our dog, there were one or two very polite young girls who were constantly worried about imposing on us by knocking on the door. There were also a couple of right little abortion failures who were outwardly fucking rude and included attempting to walk into the house as soon as you opened the door.

I can easily protract what I know into a school situation and imagine the complete fucking nightmare some of these little shits must be to teachers.

Quite, I can imagine some kids are little shits even at 5, but I still can't get my head around the "sex" part of it.

Malc

Staggering ignorance of basic social conventions I imagine. Unreserved curiosity that translates into sexual deviance by any respectable measure.

Well, no. It's common for 4/5 year old girls to stick things in their and each others mimsies. And for boys and girls of that age to rub themselves. All perfectly normal. None of that's got anything to do with sex or "deviancy". How can it, when the kids don't even understand what sex is?

I'm not disagreeing with you Chris, you're correct. However I reason that some kinds, those brought up well, will already have an understand about which things are acceptable or unacceptable in society. Those are the well-behaved ones. Those less well behaved won't realise that some things really aren't acceptable and to an adult would be considered sexually deviant, regardless of the motive of the individual child. Aye?

Mrs Grim... has come in handy for the second time today.

My 5 year old is obssesed with his willy at the moment, and thinks nothing of playing with it, and will often say "look at my willy" and "look at my bum" and stuff, now I don't think he's done that at school, but if he did (when getting changed for PE or whatever) I'd like to think the teachers would deal with it in much the same way as we do (ie telling him we don't want to see his willy/bum and that it should be a private thing, but without making a big deal of it) rather than thinking he was a pervert and needed suspending.

Malc

I agree with everything you just said. Mrs Grim... suggested that some of the children might be being abused themselves, and copy what has happened to them with their mates (it's got a name which she can't remember) which makes some sense.

Or they could just be doing the same sorts of things that most young kids do as they become aware of their bodies, of course. Let's not be too ready to start shouting "child abuse", eh? Look where that gets people.

Sorry to pitch in, I don't have kids myself like but:

Every little kid does it, they always maul themselves and lift up their skirts and things, it's innocent-just like putting their finger up their nose, it's just another body part in the end to them because they don't really know why it's concidered 'naughty' to do so. They usually do things like shout 'bum' and stuff because they know it's naughty, that's why the shout it. Cress's kid is doing it a lot and there's nothing wrong with the way Cressada has brought her up at all-it's just a kid thing.

Obviously if kids are imposing themselves on other kids then the teacher needs to have a word with them about that because that's wrong and they need to understand that

@Mr Chris: You are the entire reason I didn't post that in the first place
Look at the numbers - it's entirely possible that while bodily exploration (for want of a better term) is not a problem, other stuff is.

In some cases, of course, it gets child abusers sent to jail.

Which is probably why it isn't the reason that twenty under-fives were suspended.

A problem for whom, though? It could just be childless teachers overreacting to kids' normal behaviour.


And in some cases it gets innocent people sent to jail or have their kids removed, of course. But we could do that one round in circles forever

Ministers have eroded teachers' ability to keep order by restricting their powers to deal with disruptive and violent children

Michael Gove, Conservative Education Spokesman

Which is true really. Also kids don't have any fear of the police, teachers etc but that is really to do with their parents. My mother was fair but firm when we were younger, if she said we were in trouble then we bloody well were! Smacked arses usually but now kids just say 'fuck off' to their parents-I wouldn't even say it to mine now and I'm 22!

It's not the kids fault, look at some of the parents and their disciplinary actions towards the kids when they do something wrong. It's hard for teachers now, short of expelling/suspending kids they can't really do anything else can they? There's probably more suspensions and stuff because of that, but it doesn't mean that things have got very bad-just they can't really stop them doing it now can they? Only one solution

I'd be interested to know what sort of things they were doing to get suspended and that

Could be, but again, 20 seems to be a bit low if that was the case.

Yes, that, er... That would be the point of this thread.

Yes I know, I hadn't finished-I pressed the wrong button
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Ah I see - it's 20 nationally.

Hmm. Then yes, you (and liekly Comical) are probably right. They're probably fucked up kids who know too much one way or another - be it due to their parents actions or being allowed to watch the wrong sort of films.

You were going for the comma, but clicked on Submit by accident?

Hahaaaa-preview actually

Mmmkay, but preview doesn't actually post anything.

(Smacks head on desk)

I meant I was going to press preview but pressed Submit instead because I am a twat

new signature opportunity going begging.

Good call. GO GO MODABUSE!