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miki · **Joined:** 30th Apr, 2011 **Posts:** 1458 **Location:** NL

MaliA wrote:

Yes, but:

1) angels are ridiculously over used
2) as are the two comedic alien side kicks
3) the new lass, her character is rubbish. I honestly don't care if she gets dalek'd
4) writing is poor, relies too much on past merits

1) not half as much as Daleks and Cybermen
2) meh grumpy man
3) yes, Rory and Amy and spare Amy and Fez boy, but they were not in Blink
4) yes, but not Blink

I didn't like the Christmas show and the 50th much either, but I'll happily keep watching and very keen to see the new Doctor

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

Doctor Who Parody :

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

Red carpet stuff in Cardiff today for the premier

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-28678387

And an odd post about music which if Chinny still reads the forum I think would be something he'd enjoy

http://www.geek-pride.co.uk/doctor-who- ... -easy-way/

And down as just a 'look who i met' rather than a 'she might be in a future episode'

https://twitter.com/lou_jameson/status/ ... 2522344449

Awwww... Look who I met today. Utterly charming. pic.twitter.com/GNQV1UIbIe
— Louise Jameson (@Lou_Jameson) August 6, 2014

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/doctorwh ... ign=buffer

BFI post about the history of Doctor Who

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:39

I re-watched last year's Christmas one the other week. It made a heck of a lot more sense and was far more enjoyable when not viewed through the Christmas Day booze-and-food fog. But I still prefer the 50th anniversary one.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

Kern wrote:

I re-watched last year's Christmas one the other week. It made a heck of a lot more sense and was far more enjoyable when not viewed through the Christmas Day booze-and-food fog. But I still prefer the 50th anniversary one.

It was 'okay' but I think i was expecting more after the 50th which I loved.

Only a few days to go till the start of the new season - the first 3 episodes have now leaked online (in b/w with missing FX) , and there are plenty of rumors of

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Clara leaving at the end of this season

But that doesnt matter - all the stuff I've seen in interviews and small clips suggest Capaldi will be great

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

Doctor Who 'extra' announced

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/ar ... tra-series

Quote:

BBC iPlayer launches exclusive Doctor Who Extra series

The BBC has today announced Doctor Who Extra - a brand new series, exclusively on BBC iPlayer. Doctor Who Extra is much more than a ‘making of’ show as we follow Peter Capaldi every step of the way throughout the creation of his first season as the Doctor. Over the course of 12 programmes we trace the highs and lows of Doctor Who’s most ambitious run of episodes yet, getting the inside take on series 8 from the people who made it.

The Doctor Who Extra team had unparalleled access to stars including Peter Capaldi, Jenna Coleman and Samuel Anderson (series regular Danny Pink) plus guests Frank Skinner, Keeley Hawes, Michelle Gomez, Ben Miller, Foxes and many more. Writers, such as Lead Writer and Executive Producer Steven Moffat, and directors also contribute as they spill the beans on the on and off-screen drama.

Casual viewers will enjoy the fun, fast pace and lighter side of Doctor Who Extra but there’s plenty for fans, too, as we take a quick dip into the archive for every edition, reflecting on how Doctor Who’s history is echoed in this current series.

Packed with emotion, great stories and a real sense of ‘access all areas’, Doctor Who Extra is essential viewing for everyone who’s ever watched Doctor Who and wondered what it’s a like to be a part of the team that brings this global phenomena to our screens.

Doctor Who Extra is produced by BBC Cymru Wales and executive produced by Steven Moffat, Brian Minchin and Jo Pearce. Each 10 minute Doctor Who Extra episode will be available after that week’s Doctor Who episode on BBC One.

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

No opinions yet? Overall I'm not that impressed but y'know I'm wrong about everything.

The good:

Capaldi has potential
Creepy enemies
Creepy Premise
Madame Vastra

The bad:

Still too silly and manic (but hey maybe that's the post regeneration thing)
Too much post regeneration madness
Still felt horribly superficial.
Didn't really get much feel for the Doctor.
Still seems very aimed at kids rather than being FAMILY viewing.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

First half was too chaotic and not so good, second half was excellent. I thought the interaction between Clara and The Doctor was great and having someone in the role who can really act made a huge difference to how natural the relationship felt.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

I think a lot of it was a (not so subtle) dig at the people moaning about an old doctor.

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The character building about him being a different sort, a nastier doctor, and potentially one that has been seen before was quite good. Also, my who knowledge may be poor, but I am sure previous doctors have said the are 1000 yrs old, whereas he said he 2000 years old.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

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He was about 1000 years old, then spent about 1000 years on Trenzalore defending it, IIRC

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25585

I think he will be a good Doctor. I too thought that the second half of the episode was far better than the first half.

A couple of things jarred, however: the stupid cartoon sound effects - when he bonked his head and something else, and some incidental music that sounded like it was from Tom & Jerry. At that point it was like watching CBBC.

Mimi · **Joined:** 27th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 25585

Also, didn't think much of the new titles that have been all over the media. but at least they were blue.

Pundabaya · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5016

Capaldi was awesome! Loved it. Also Strax. Strax is always good.

Kern · **Posted:** Thu Aug 28, 2014 10:27

Watched it very late on Saturday night in a hotel room after a wedding with about 8 other people (a friend 'just happened' to have brought his laptop and a HDMI cable to plug into the TV), some of whom are not fans of the show. Really enjoyed it. Rewatched it last night, and it was as good as I remembered. It was refreshing that whilst Capaldi was top-notch, the supporting cast were just as good and had some brilliant scenes and speeches.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38458

He's a mumbler though. That could get annoying.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Clara swore. She said, 'bloody.' (Edit:@ 49:49)

I'm afraid that's just not acceptable.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

And where the hell did he produce his sonic screwdriver from when he was wandering about in that nightshirt?

_{Am I being too critical?}

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

Well that was more like it, yes?

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Not sure why there was so much anti soldier stuff in that, esp at the end to that woman. His we will find out, but it seemed a little meta political for my liking.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

Watched it this morning and was a bit bored to be honest. Last week was better.

myp · **Posted:** Sun Aug 31, 2014 21:06

Wasn't great.

Slightly Green · **Joined:** 26th Aug, 2010 **Posts:** 2069

MrsSG and myself both underwhelmed by both the episodes, honestly think he has potential to be a good Doctor (no pun intended) but those episodes were very lacking imo.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38458

Sounds depressingly familiar

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Thought that one was pretty good.

Really like that the Dalek saw hatred in the doctor.

Derek The Halls · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3742

I have to say I'm not really sure about Capaldi actually. He seems to rather oddly lack charisma. I'm not looking for a Mat Smith or David Tennant but he just tends to look a little bewildered and lost sometimes. Also the doctor is being possibly a bit too 'dark' and a bit of a git.

I still thought it a vast improvement over the first episode though.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 01, 2014 11:51

Derek The Halls wrote:

I have to say I'm not really sure about Capaldi actually. He seems to rather oddly lack charisma. I'm not looking for a Mat Smith or David Tennant but he just tends to look a little bewildered and lost sometimes.

I'd agree if I'd only seen the first half of Deep Breath and then Into the Dalek, but he really nailed it in the second half of the first episode. Still think Deep Breath was better overall.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38458

I've got to be honest, the second episode sent me to sleep. I'll have to try it again.

Capaldi... I'm not convinced. This whole self-doubt thing is already grating.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

DavPaz wrote:

Capaldi... I'm not convinced. This whole self-doubt thing is already grating.

Have courage of your convictions dude, it's ok to not be convinced by Capaldi.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:38

Maybe we have been spoilt with the last two Doctors. They were both incredible from the get-go. Or maybe Moffatt has run out of ideas.

Let's see how the rest of the season pans out.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16557

Much prefer Capaldi to the last two already, but then I much preferred Ecclestone as well. :shrug:

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:51

Ecclestone was my favourite, but didn't have enough time to grow into the role, unfortunately.

ApplePieOfDestiny · **Joined:** 17th Dec, 2008 **Posts:** 8293

I thought it was a terrible story, with a waste/overuse of the required Dalek episode. Also the 'Daleks shine spotlight on the dark side of the doctor' has itself been more than overused in the past ten years.

The only episode in a long time where I've not been fully concentrating on it as I got bored, although I'm laying that at the scriptwriters feet rather than Capaldi, for now.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Sep 01, 2014 12:55

Maybe it wasn't even the writing. I'm not sure how the concept of 'let's do Inner Space but inside a dalek' even got past the initial planning meeting.

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

American Nervoso wrote:

Maybe it wasn't even the writing. I'm not sure how the concept of 'let's do Inner Space but inside a dalek' even got past the initial planning meeting.

As soon as he saw the shrinkerator I stopped paying attention and went back to my fudge.

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

American Nervoso wrote:

Maybe it wasn't even the writing. I'm not sure how the concept of 'let's do Inner Space but inside a dalek' even got past the initial planning meeting.

It was covered in the 'extra' that it came from a question to Stephen Moffat about people searching for ideas to do a Doctor Who video game and he came out with that as a concept and then told them "No , you cant have that - its going to be an episode"

MaliA · **Posted:** Mon Sep 01, 2014 16:46

Episode one was a bit "meh", Episode two was pretty decent. I like CApaldi, and CLara did someothing.

miki · **Joined:** 30th Apr, 2011 **Posts:** 1458 **Location:** NL

I wish they would just stop with the Daleks
just stop
please

myp · **Posted:** Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:32

miki wrote:

I wish they would just stop with the Daleks
just stop
please

Yes, I'm sure they'll bin the Doctor's most iconic nemeses in the programme. Seems plausible.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:47

American Nervoso wrote:

miki wrote:

I wish they would just stop with the Daleks
just stop
please

Yes, I'm sure they'll bin the Doctor's most iconic nemeses in the programme. Seems plausible.

They clearly have no idea what to do when they do use them.

Kern · **Posted:** Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:48

I really enjoeyd episode 2. The Doc was as cold and scary as 9 was in 'Dalek', and I'm glad it wasn't a rehash of it.

But, yes, I think letting the pepperpots rest for two or three years would be good. Last time they were truly scary was the 'Asylum of the Daleks' episode.

myp · **Posted:** Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:00

Kern wrote:

Asylum of the Daleks

I absolutely loved that episode. They are very hit and miss, though. Dalek was ace, the Manhattan two-parter was execrable.

miki · **Joined:** 30th Apr, 2011 **Posts:** 1458 **Location:** NL

American Nervoso wrote:

miki wrote:

I wish they would just stop with the Daleks
just stop
please

Yes, I'm sure they'll bin the Doctor's most iconic nemeses in the programme. Seems plausible.

He used to be surprised when he saw one "they were all destroyed in the time war" etc. Now he's not even surprised anymore.
Last of the Timelords, but never a last of the Daleks

(yes I know - the Master - but that was just one)

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

yeah, there wasn't even any build up about what the enemy was - just as well really as the BBC announcer tells you prior to the show starting what is going to happen, FFS.

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:58

Well, that and the episode title.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

the what now?

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

miki wrote:

Last of the Timelords, but never a last of the Daleks

They did try that a few times down to the final few but then they just open up the floodgates again and they arrive again.

Also 'all destroyed in the time way' does not quite mean that same as it did before as the end of the time war has been re-written (Galifrey moved to another dimension so the Daleks shot themselves rather than locked in the time 'bubble' that was created).

The thing is they are never going to get rid of them totally but they could do so much more with them than they have done recently.

miki · **Joined:** 30th Apr, 2011 **Posts:** 1458 **Location:** NL

that is the other thing I don't like about it, trotting them out over and over again makes them infinitely less scary because it makes them so beatable
they are built up as this amazing enemy, a time war was fought by Timelords for bloody ages and the only way to defeat them was to kill them all (ok I know Gallifrey falls no more, but that has been the Daleks bio up till then)
But every time they bring one or more out, they have to be defeated and every time that happens the Daleks lose more street cred and so: meh

on a more positive note, next week:

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Robin Hood!

zaphod79 · **Joined:** 16th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14487

miki wrote:

But every time they bring one or more out, they have to be defeated and every time that happens the Daleks lose more street cred and so: meh

I really liked 'Dalek' which carried the idea of one dalek being dangerous , however after that they decided its much better to have an enormous army of them to battle against

Classic stories often have the same issues but you did get the idea that often the victory was just escape from them , or that they had a plan and the victory was stopping that plan (rather than just use them as an enemy which will kill everything).

Some examples :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Daleks - Where the goal was to stop them changing time (I know that no-one really messes with time in 'New Who' other than the Doctor & The Master but the Daleks can time travel and is that not a better and more scarey idea that the Daleks have manipulated time to get their own way)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_the_Daleks - Daleks with no weapons until they swap their blasters for Uzi's :-) (goal to escape the planet / stop the energy drain)

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