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Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:14 ]
Post subject:  Guitar Hero

I've just preordered the full band pack - yikes! I'm going to have to build an extension to house all my plastic instruments.

Is anyone else getting this? I'm justifying it by the fact that I'll be able to use the kit for at least three games. It's still expensive, though. ?:|

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:14 ]
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myoptika wrote:
Is anyone else getting this? I'm justifying it by the fact that I'll be able to use the kit for at least three games.
Has anyone in InternetLand yet played Rock Band with the drums from GH:WT? I want to know how they map the cymbals.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:21 ]
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I don't know, and it doesn't look like it's going to concern me that much. Apparently RB2 is massively superior to the first game and for 800 points you're going to be able to download 45 songs from the first game for RB2 - doesn't that make the need for me to buy the RB1 disc pretty much obsolete?

Author:  Runcle [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:26 ]
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myoptika wrote:
I don't know, and it doesn't look like it's going to concern me that much. Apparently RB2 is massively superior to the first game and for 800 points you're going to be able to download 45 songs from the first game for RB2 - doesn't that make the need for me to buy the RB1 disc pretty much obsolete?


I think you need the rock band 1 disc to buy the transfer thing mind. You also need abotu 4000 points to download all the awesome dlc from rock band.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:27 ]
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Myoptika, I hereby demand that you move to Greenwich.

Or just give me your stuff.

Author:  Joans [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:28 ]
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Runcle wrote:
myoptika wrote:
I don't know, and it doesn't look like it's going to concern me that much. Apparently RB2 is massively superior to the first game and for 800 points you're going to be able to download 45 songs from the first game for RB2 - doesn't that make the need for me to buy the RB1 disc pretty much obsolete?


I think you need the rock band 1 disc to buy the transfer thing mind. You also need abotu 4000 points to download all the awesome dlc from rock band.


Can you just rent it though?
*should probably have asked this before spending £40 a few weeks ago*

Author:  CUS [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:28 ]
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Oh, don't fucking say that, I only finally bought the RB1 disc at the weekend :(

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:29 ]
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myoptika wrote:
I don't know, and it doesn't look like it's going to concern me that much. Apparently RB2 is massively superior to the first game and for 800 points you're going to be able to download 45 songs from the first game for RB2 - doesn't that make the need for me to buy the RB1 disc pretty much obsolete?
Sorry, I mean, playing any Rock Band game (i.e. note track designed for four drum pads) with the GH:WT drums (i.e. three pads, two cymbols).

If this feels good I'd be in the market for the GH:WT instruments.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:30 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Or just give me your stuff.


This would be preferable.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:32 ]
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myoptika wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Or just give me your stuff.


This would be preferable.


Awesome! Bring all your Guitar Hero gubbins down in November for the first installment.

:)

Author:  Runcle [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:34 ]
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Joans wrote:
Runcle wrote:
myoptika wrote:
I don't know, and it doesn't look like it's going to concern me that much. Apparently RB2 is massively superior to the first game and for 800 points you're going to be able to download 45 songs from the first game for RB2 - doesn't that make the need for me to buy the RB1 disc pretty much obsolete?


I think you need the rock band 1 disc to buy the transfer thing mind. You also need abotu 4000 points to download all the awesome dlc from rock band.


Can you just rent it though?
*should probably have asked this before spending £40 a few weeks ago*


cant see why not, you will lose a few tracks mind but Im sure the ones you do are the bonus tracks and a few cover versions.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:38 ]
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Runcle wrote:
Joans wrote:
Can you just rent it though?
*should probably have asked this before spending £40 a few weeks ago*
cant see why not, you will lose a few tracks mind but Im sure the ones you do are the bonus tracks and a few cover versions.
It appears that you can rent it, yes. They have no way of knowing if a particular Rock Band disc has been used for the import or not. I'm surprised they have started putting a pack-in code with game to control this stuff.

The songs you lose are Enter Sandman by Metallica, Run to the Hills by Iron Maiden, Paranoid by Black Sabbath and Monsoon by Tokyo Hotel. In all, you transfer 55 of the 58 core Rock Band songs, and 9 of the 10 European bonus tracks. Plus all Rock Band DLC automatically transfers into Rock Band 2 for free.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:38 ]
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Ooh, fancy lending it to me when you get RB2 then? ;)

Author:  Joans [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:39 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
Runcle wrote:
Joans wrote:
Can you just rent it though?
*should probably have asked this before spending £40 a few weeks ago*
cant see why not, you will lose a few tracks mind but Im sure the ones you do are the bonus tracks and a few cover versions.
It appears that you can rent it, yes. They have no way of knowing if a particular Rock Band disc has been used for the import or not. I'm surprised they have started putting a pack-in code with game to control this stuff.

The songs you lose are Enter Sandman by Metallica, Run to the Hills by Iron Maiden, Paranoid by Black Sabbath and Monsoon by Tokyo Hotel. In all, you transfer 55 of the 58 core Rock Band songs, and 9 of the 10 European bonus tracks. Plus all Rock Band DLC automatically transfers into Rock Band 2 for free.


Well, I guess those were worth the £40. :'(

Author:  ultrabrilliant [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:41 ]
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I played this at an 'event' and, honestly, when there's four of you powering through Eye Of The Tiger, it's enough to make grown men weep in unified joy.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:42 ]
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myoptika wrote:
Ooh, fancy lending it to me when you get RB2 then? ;)
Yeah, could do. Do Blockbusters rent it? It'd be more efficient. If they don't I wouldn't object to my copy doing a BETEO tour as long as I got it back in the end.

Author:  Blucey [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:49 ]
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CUS wrote:
Oh, don't fucking say that, I only finally bought the RB1 disc at the weekend :(


1000 gamerscore to be gotten though. win.

Author:  Runcle [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:53 ]
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Bluce_Ree wrote:
CUS wrote:
Oh, don't fucking say that, I only finally bought the RB1 disc at the weekend :(


1000 gamerscore to be gotten though. win.


how good are you like?

I only got 300 or something from it. You must be pretty good if you can complete vocals, drums and guitar on expert.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:54 ]
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Bluce_Ree wrote:
1000 gamerscore to be gotten though. win.
It's really stingy with gamerscore, mind.

Author:  CUS [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:56 ]
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I'm gonna go trade the fucking thing in for Pure, first chance I get then. I abhore that kind of scamming release method.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:58 ]
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CUS wrote:
I'm gonna go trade the fucking thing in for Pure, first chance I get then. I abhore that kind of scamming release method.
Hmm. I think I disagree. Where is the scam?

Rock Band is what it is; 68 tracks on the disc. The fact that they have allowed import of the tracks into RB2 is a damned good thing from where I am standing; it means I can have a single unified view of all my Rock Band song content to choose from when playing the game with a gang of mates.

Author:  Rodafowa [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:04 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
Bluce_Ree wrote:
1000 gamerscore to be gotten though. win.
It's really stingy with gamerscore, mind.

It does do the thing where if you complete a higher difficulty level it gives you the achievements for all the lower difficulty levels too, though. Which really ought to be standard for everything, ever.

Also: you're totally right, the way they've handled upgrades from RB to RB2 is the exact opposite of a scam.

Author:  itsallwater [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:07 ]
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Can you not get the gamery points from RB1 via playing RB2 then, even if playing the same songs?

Author:  metalangel [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:11 ]
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The whole 'music games' arms race amuses me greatly.

Just you watch... for the next iteration, one of them is going to get a keyboard, then the other is going to up the ante by adding one of those keyboard-guitars.

My gripe with Rock Band is that the sound of the drums being whacked drowns out a lot of the music.

Author:  CUS [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:31 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
CUS wrote:
I'm gonna go trade the fucking thing in for Pure, first chance I get then. I abhore that kind of scamming release method.
Hmm. I think I disagree. Where is the scam?

If I understand correctly, my purchase of Rock Band was a wasted one if I am to ever get Rock Band II (and since I've just bought the first one, this is likely), without any indication that is the case. But of course, not ALL of the songs are available. No, no, no. Leave off a tasty number like Enter Sandman *wink* that'll ensure the kids still buy the first one.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:35 ]
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itsallwater wrote:
Can you not get the gamery points from RB1 via playing RB2 then, even if playing the same songs?
No, Microsoft rules would forbid that -- 1000GP per disk, always.

MetalAngel wrote:
My gripe with Rock Band is that the sound of the drums being whacked drowns out a lot of the music.
It's better with those stick on pads. Plus, my drumming is a little... enthusiastic.

Quote:
If I understand correctly, my purchase of Rock Band was a wasted one if I am to ever get Rock Band II (and since I've just bought the first one, this is likely), without any indication that is the case. But of course, not ALL of the songs are available. No, no, no. Leave off a tasty number like Enter Sandman *wink* that'll ensure the kids still buy the first one.
It's not Harmonix's fault that you didn't know about their incredibly generous take-your-music-into-the-next game feature, which has been widely publicised since Rock Band 2 was announced. Furthermore they wanted to let you bring all the songs over but could not get the music copyright owners to relicence all the tracks. I suspect that Metallica's deal with Guitar Hero (see the Death Magnetic whole-album DLC and the widely rumoured forthcoming Guitar Hero: Metallica) precludes future Metallica content in Rock Band.

Also, you need to have a Rock Band disc to do the import process, and I suspect doing it from a borrowed or rented copy is probably illegal under the T&Cs. It's not a wasted purchase.

Author:  CUS [ Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Guitar Hero: World Tour

richardgaywood wrote:
Also, you need to have a Rock Band disc to do the import process, and I suspect doing it from a borrowed or rented copy is probably illegal under the T&Cs. It's not a wasted purchase.

AH. That's very different then :)

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 13:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Guitar Hero: World Tour

Sorry for ressurecting an older thread. The wife's getting World Tour, just the single guitar pack, for her birthday. How d'you guys think it'll play with just the one instrument? Much like GH3 (which she loved on my bro's xbox btw) or only 1/4 of a game?

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 13:42 ]
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We actively encourage dead thread resurrection, so don't worry. To answer your question, I guess both. It'll play much like GHIII, but will also be half a game (bass and guitar, remember).

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 13:46 ]
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Oh, I'll go digging through the old threads to clumsily re-animate then :)

Mrs Davpaz is muchly looking forward to the delivery of WT even though she doesn't think much of the new guitar ("It's brown!")

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 14:26 ]
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Dr Awkward wrote:
We actively encourage dead thread resurrection, so don't worry.

Especially when they're only six days old :)

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:05 ]
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It's not quite dead.... it's getting better.... "I feel HAPPY!"

Author:  Runcle [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:06 ]
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Dr Awkward wrote:
We actively encourage dead thread resurrection, so don't worry. To answer your question, I guess both. It'll play much like GHIII, but will also be half a game (bass and guitar, remember).


There wasnt a bass guitar career on rock band, not sure if theres one on guitar hero world tour, probably not because bass is boring.
Id quite like the new guitar hero guitar for the touch pad thing, apparently its pretty much essential for the studio create a track gimmick. But I really dont need another plastic guitar, Ive got 2 PS2 ones, and 3 for my xbox 360 and 5 real guitars hanging round the house aswell.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:08 ]
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I'm getting rid of my two X-Plorers when World Tour arrives, as I don't have room for them all.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:09 ]
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Runcle wrote:
There wasnt a bass guitar career on rock band, not sure if theres one on guitar hero world tour, probably not because bass is boring.
I'm not sure about GH:WT either, but I have read Rock Band 2 has a bass career.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:09 ]
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Dr Awkward wrote:
I'm getting rid of my two X-Plorers when World Tour arrives, as I don't have room for them all.


I'd be interested in taking one of those of your hands mate.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:11 ]
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Make me an offer I can't refuse, then. ;)

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:12 ]
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I'll start at 2 Mojos and a Black Jack.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:13 ]
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Epic fail.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:19 ]
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I'll go as high as a Wham! bar, but my pocket money only stretches so far, man!

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 15:21 ]
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Seriously though, if it's in good condition, I'll pay a good price of real money

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 20, 2008 17:23 ]
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Excellent. I'll let you know when it's available.

Author:  myp [ Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:46 ]
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This comes the day after Shunt, and I won't get to pick it up from the delivery office until Monday as I've got a wedding to go to. :'(

Author:  tossrStu [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:51 ]
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I hope nobody was looking forward to the song creation mode; someone's posted up a couple of the example songs on YouTube and the results aren't looking too good...




Author:  Derek The Halls [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 13:16 ]
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Terrible. But they could be just crap at it.

Author:  myp [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 13:22 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote:
Terrible. But they could be just crap at it.


I think the issue is that if you're good enough to make decent songs using that, you probably wouldn't bother as you'd write proper songs instead.

I'd forgotten about the song creation mode, tbh.

Author:  tossrStu [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 13:53 ]
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Nirejhenge wrote:
Terrible. But they could be just crap at it.


Unfortunately I don't think it matters how good you are at creating songs in it as the game appears to do a shit job of generating charts from songs (and I think those songs are example ones included with the game; if the developers can't get it right, what hope is there for the rest of us?).

Also the sounds appear to be coming from a Yamaha keyboard circa 1993.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 13:54 ]
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tossrStu wrote:
Unfortunately I don't think it matters how good you are at creating songs in it as the game appears to do a shit job of generating charts from songs
I was very dubious about this. I read in interview where they say that whatever the person plays goes down as the Expert level note chart and the game auto-generates the easier difficulty levels; that sounded shit to me then and doesn't sound any better now.

Author:  myp [ Sat Oct 25, 2008 17:44 ]
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Shhh - back to Rock Band with you. ;)

Author:  tossrStu [ Fri Oct 31, 2008 20:38 ]
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GH:WT to get new Bond theme as DLC?

http://kotaku.com/5072422/bond-song-com ... world-tour

Quote:
Reading through a press release about the upcoming Best Buy midnight opening launch event for Quantum of Solace, I stumbled upon this interesting tidbit:

Additionally, those in line at 10:00 PM will get the exclusive opportunity to be one of the first to play the Bond song “Another Way to Die” performed by Jack White and Alicia Keys which is soon-to-be-released as downloadable content for Activision’s Guitar Hero® World Tour.


Maybe Harmonix will counter it with their new bezzie mate's unreleased Goldfinger theme.


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