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Author:  MaliA [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:50 ]
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Trousers wrote:

The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


America is quite the enigma, given things like this can be juxtaposed with its production of forward free liberal thinking cinematography dealing with complex issues sensitively as seen in Days of Thunder.

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:00 ]
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Trousers wrote:
We watched the first two of these last night. It's really interesting but I am not sure I can make it through the entire lot because I was just so infuriated at the end of the first case.

The judge dished out the sentences in a rage himself, hardly the dispassionate arbiter acting purely on the basis of law that he should have been.

The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


There's one where the judge basically says 'I don't think this man is guilty of the crimes he's accused of, and the jury has got it wrong. But I am now going to sentence him for four murders and one attempted murder. Cheers.'

The 'confession' was actually deemed inadmissible in court, but then the media essentially told everyone about it anyway.

That was a headfuck.

Author:  RuySan [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:02 ]
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Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

Author:  markg [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:23 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
Trousers wrote:
We watched the first two of these last night. It's really interesting but I am not sure I can make it through the entire lot because I was just so infuriated at the end of the first case.

The judge dished out the sentences in a rage himself, hardly the dispassionate arbiter acting purely on the basis of law that he should have been.

The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


There's one where the judge basically says 'I don't think this man is guilty of the crimes he's accused of, and the jury has got it wrong. But I am now going to sentence him for four murders and one attempted murder. Cheers.'

The 'confession' was actually deemed inadmissible in court, but then the media essentially told everyone about it anyway.

That was a headfuck.
Some of the cases much more than others did seem to be very compelling in terms of showing a miscarriage of justice but really I have no idea. And I don't have any more of a reason to trust these journalists over the ones who influenced the original trials. I can't help wondering if the filmmakers worried that viewers might be insufficiently outraged over the obvious malpractices if they came away thinking that the defendants were probably guilty anyway. I would have no trouble if they wanted to convince me that these were unsafe convictions but I think they wanted to go a bit further than that.

I'm not saying that there wasn't some really, really fucking sketchy police work going on but I also can't help feeling that as in the case of Making A Murderer we might not have seen some fairly important evidence that pointed toward their guilt. The willingness of some of the prosecutors and the police to give interviews about that time they apparently just straight up framed someone made me wonder a bit about whether there was something I was not being told. And the footnotes that all their appeals had been exhausted. So another court heard all the same evidence but came to the same conclusions. :shrug:

Author:  LewieP [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:39 ]
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RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?

Author:  RuySan [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:10 ]
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LewieP wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Yes, you definitely should! Indeed he's great (got an Emmy for the role). The rest of the cast is also fantastic. Linda Cardelinni is a hottie and there's the legendary Sissi Spacek.

Love both the guys who play John and Kevin. John is so badass while Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent that gets hilarious sometimes.

Author:  LewieP [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:30 ]
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Linda Cardellini is indeed very hot.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:51 ]
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RuySan wrote:
LewieP wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent


I think this is why we gave up part way through series 2. He's a hysterical bell end.

Author:  RuySan [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 14:15 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
RuySan wrote:
LewieP wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent


I think this is why we gave up part way through series 2. He's a hysterical bell end.


"I Fucked Up!" - Kevin (multiple times, while sobbing uncontrollably)

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 15:10 ]
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markg wrote:
Some of the cases much more than others did seem to be very compelling in terms of showing a miscarriage of justice but really I have no idea. And I don't have any more of a reason to trust these journalists over the ones who influenced the original trials. I can't help wondering if the filmmakers worried that viewers might be insufficiently outraged over the obvious malpractices if they came away thinking that the defendants were probably guilty anyway. I would have no trouble if they wanted to convince me that these were unsafe convictions but I think they wanted to go a bit further than that.

I'm not saying that there wasn't some really, really fucking sketchy police work going on but I also can't help feeling that as in the case of Making A Murderer we might not have seen some fairly important evidence that pointed toward their guilt. The willingness of some of the prosecutors and the police to give interviews about that time they apparently just straight up framed someone made me wonder a bit about whether there was something I was not being told. And the footnotes that all their appeals had been exhausted. So another court heard all the same evidence but came to the same conclusions. :shrug:


From memory in half the cases (or more?) the prosecution/police refused to be interviewed for the programme, which suggests they weren't at all keen to revisit the cases.

In the cases where they did talk, I got the feeling they generally thought they were in the right and didn't see an issue with how they'd conducted themselves.

But yes, a bit more information about the appeals would have been helpful, and it's possible important information was omitted from the programmes themselves.

Author:  markg [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 15:22 ]
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Yeah, I just found it a bit frustrating I suppose. But the takeaway is if you ever get accused of something you either did or didn't do, don't ever talk to the police on your own.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 16:46 ]
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markg wrote:
Yeah, I just found it a bit frustrating I suppose. But the takeaway is if you ever get accused of something you either did or didn't do, don't ever talk to the police on your own.

You can go further than that - don't ever talk to the police on your own.

https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/mvkg ... n-survival

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 17:16 ]
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Don't ever talk to the police

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 17:18 ]
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And don't stand, don't stand so, don't stand so close to them.

Author:  LewieP [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 17:32 ]
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Don't ever talk.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 17:36 ]
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Don't talk just kiss.

Let your tongue fool around.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Mon Oct 09, 2017 19:04 ]
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And I'll be watching you.

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 16:08 ]
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We’ve started watching this, against the advice of everyone. It’s chilling, and honestly the clips of the interrogations amount to nothing short of brainwashing.

HOWEVER... the father of the guy in the first two episodes had possibly the greatest voice that’s ever been on TV. Canadian/landed gentry/Sean Connery all smashed into one amazing accent.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 18:43 ]
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Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 18:58 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 21:50 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.

better call Saul?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Oct 11, 2017 22:02 ]
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Ah yes, very good point.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 21:01 ]
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Riverdale S2 on Netflix now.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 21:10 ]
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I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 21:24 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....


OH MY GOD TWENTy MINUTES IN IT IS AMAZING

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 12, 2017 22:19 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....


OH MY GOD TWENTy MINUTES IN IT IS AMAZING


That was beautiful.

Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Oct 13, 2017 22:51 ]
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Two weeks until Season 2

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sun Oct 15, 2017 18:52 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.


And it's done.
A very good finale IMO, but not quite as wow as some of the episodes.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.

Author:  RuySan [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 14:41 ]
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Done with Bloodlines. It's a shame they couldn't make more seasons of it. S3 was obviously a rush job in some parts to get the storyline done, and some plot lines were solved in a pretty stupid way, but it was still a stellar show that maybe was just too slow for netflix. I would say it could have been a better fix for HBO but then HBO might have cancelled it just after one season like Vinyl.

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 20:29 ]
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One episode in, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is ace.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Oct 16, 2017 20:38 ]
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MaliA wrote:
One episode in, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend is ace.


It wears. Though others will disagree.

Caught up on Riverdale. It's legitimately excellent TV.

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 14:13 ]
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So did we decided whether the mist series was any good?

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Oct 18, 2017 14:44 ]
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Old guys with hats always die. Women of any age wearing hats do not suffer the same mortality rate as these poor aged behatted men. It's #everydaysexism.

Author:  RuySan [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:21 ]
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Just saw episodes 7 and 8 of Halt and Catch fire

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
That must have been the biggest gut-punch in the history of TV and Movies. When Gordon looked at Donna holding the baby in that flashback scene i completely lost it.

And if that wasn't enough, the next episode was equally sad and Haley couldn't even recover her dad's sweater. Poor Haley. She will remember the rest of her life how she was at odds with her dad when he passed away.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:24 ]
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MrChris wrote:
So did we decided whether the mist series was any good?

I watched the first episode and was told it wasn't worth continuing.

Anyone watching Ozark?

Really enjoyed it. Have I already mentioned this?

Author:  LewieP [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:27 ]
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Yeah I thought Ozark was pretty good.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 13:07 ]
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I’m so glad Mr Robot is back. It’s the best thing on TV right now.

Author:  RuySan [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 15:35 ]
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It definitely isn't

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 15:37 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
MrChris wrote:
So did we decided whether the mist series was any good?

I watched the first episode and was told it wasn't worth continuis?

I'm on ep5 and enjoying it, despite the presence of the woman with the huge mouth from the Vikings who can't act.

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 16:08 ]
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RuySan wrote:
It definitely isn't


‘Cept it is. It’s brilliant.

Author:  RuySan [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 16:32 ]
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First season of Mr. Robot was fine, second wasn't really. I have no idea about the 3rd... but judging from the previous seasons, there are much better shows around (Halt and Catch Fire is the most obvious example)

Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Oct 19, 2017 20:44 ]
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Really enjoying the second series of the expanse. Only on ep 4 or 5 and I'll be jiggered if I can see exactly where it's going. Best moment so far is

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Miller and the bomb
, which was delightfully reminiscent of the companion cube in Portal.

In fact that episode as a whole was outstanding.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:32 ]
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Both series were great, and Craster is big Mr Wrongface for saying otherwise.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:33 ]
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I mean, on top of the rest of the reasons.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:33 ]
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The grenade of other reasons he jumped on.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:36 ]
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I was enjoying the Mist at ep 8 but then EVERYONE STARTED SNOGGING. EWWWWWW

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:46 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Both series were great, and Craster is big Mr Wrongface for saying otherwise.


I never said otherwise. I just said S1 was slower than a tortoise baked in treacle until about ep10.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:57 ]
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YOU BLOODY DID. you went on about how slow and boring it was. It bloody wasn't. It was ace and well paced. It's just you've got a ridiculously short attention span.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:57 ]
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Right, I'm getting on a plane. ON A PLANE.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 15:58 ]
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You'd eat that.

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