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That was Charles Xavier's wheelchair, right?

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There's a layer of astral plane or whatever more than they think, so a lot of stuff didn't actually happen (if they went too far and made the entire thing inside his head that would probably be shit though), or
They think they've won but the parasite chap has Twin Peaks'd himself into someone else's head (probably Jermaine's).

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back story of its battle with Xavier

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That was Charles Xavier's wheelchair, right?

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Yeah, Legion is Xavier's son in the comics so that part isn't a too big a twist.

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I definitely think Jermaine's character will be the key somehow. It struck me as odd at the time that he was just suddently 'there' in the real world after being gone for so long and they seem to be heavily signposting the fact that he doesn't remember his wife at all. Certainly in the comics the Shadow King's whole deal is jumping around from brain to brain so that'll almost certainly be the basis of it.

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I loved the way the SK killed Creepy Art Garfunkel! That was well gross, though it does seem like a waste of a character that was never fully explored. Or is he really dead? Was that all in David's mind? *gasp*

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It was... good? Goodish? It didn't quite nail it, IMO, though the series as a whole is one of my favourite of recent years. Aubrey Plaza has been amazing throughout, and her bits with Dan Stevens have been the standout parts to me. She did some excellent eyeball acting this week.

The ending played out as I expected, but somehow with a little less drama than I had hoped. The scene with it being passed around was kinda cool though.

Anyway, cracking series. Will watch S2.

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I agree with all of this. I was slightly disappointed with the last episode but I couldn't put my finger on why because there was nothing I could call out as being actually 'bad'. I did enjoy the interplay between David and the interrogator guy ("Now we'll have to work together." "*sigh* I know, I'll talk to them.") but was less impressed by all the stuff before that showing his recovery from the burning incident at the pool (yeah, yeah, he's a real human being with a life and loved ones, we get it; but fuck him, he was purposely doing a job that involved holding people against their will and lying to them so he can suck it up). Oh, and the bit at the start with David casually building a writhing pile of bodies while the interrogator realises quite how fucked he is was awesome.

Anyway, as a whole I've fucking loved it so am definitely looking forward to the second season.

Author:	KovacsC [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:37 ]
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markg wrote: It's ok, ending was a bit of a damp squid. Squib? Or am I missing the joke..

Author:	Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:57 ]
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KovacsC wrote: markg wrote: It's ok, ending was a bit of a damp squid. Squib? Or am I missing the joke.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnXKVY-_i2c

Author:	myp [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:34 ]
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Travelers The OA 12 Monkeys All worth watching, varying from good to excellent.

Author:	Cras [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:12 ]
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The OA can go fuck itself

Author:	Mr Russell [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:13 ]
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I liked The OA. Been renewed as well apparently, though where they'll go with it I don't know.

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Author:	LewieP [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:46 ]
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12 Monkeys is one of my favourite films but the TV show is pretty bad, at least the first four or so episodes were. It's also a bad idea to turn a film into a TV show if you didn't understand the film.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Wed Mar 22, 2017 12:49 ]
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Cras wrote: The OA can go fuck itself Califooooornyaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Author:	MrChris [ Fri Mar 24, 2017 22:29 ]
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The Expanse really is ace.

Author:	myp [ Sat Mar 25, 2017 13:54 ]
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MrChris wrote: The Expanse really is ace. It's kind of like GoT in space so far. I've only watched 3 episodes so far but I'm enjoying it.

Author:	Cras [ Sat Mar 25, 2017 15:51 ]
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S1 is quite slow up until the last couple of episodes, then it becomes UNSTOPPABLE BRILLOPANTS

Author:	Bamba [ Sat Mar 25, 2017 20:44 ]
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So the last episodes of Legion was pretty disappointing. Mostly it was good and all, but the middle of it was just such a horrendous exposition dump that it shat all over the pacing of the entire series. There wasn't even an attempt at subtlety, what with sticking the main character in an actual fucking classroom and just throwing facts at him. Every aspect of the story that had been left unexplained up to that point was just rushed through in a couple of minutes like they'd lost the courage of their convictions. Boo!

Author:	Curiosity [ Sun Mar 26, 2017 22:24 ]
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Bamba wrote: So the last episodes of Legion was pretty disappointing. Mostly it was good and all, but the middle of it was just such a horrendous exposition dump that it shat all over the pacing of the entire series. There wasn't even an attempt at subtlety, what with sticking the main character in an actual fucking classroom and just throwing facts at him. Every aspect of the story that had been left unexplained up to that point was just rushed through in a couple of minutes like they'd lost the courage of their convictions. Boo! I didnt really think it was that bad. There's still lots of stuff going on that is entirely unexplained or at the very least seriously sketchy, and there was very little in the exposition that we didn't already know; but it was a neat scene and the animations were cool. The only thing it spelled out was the identity of the parasite, which in itself wasn't even that much info. Though the thing in the first minute... ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That was Charles Xavier's wheelchair, right? Only one episode left! I personally foresee an ending where either: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! There's a layer of astral plane or whatever more than they think, so a lot of stuff didn't actually happen (if they went too far and made the entire thing inside his head that would probably be shit though), or They think they've won but the parasite chap has Twin Peaks'd himself into someone else's head (probably Jermaine's). P.S. Stable door horse bolted and all that jazz, but we so should have had a thread for this show.

Author:	Bamba [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:29 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I didnt really think it was that bad. There's still lots of stuff going on that is entirely unexplained or at the very least seriously sketchy, and there was very little in the exposition that we didn't already know; but it was a neat scene and the animations were cool. The only thing it spelled out was the identity of the parasite, which in itself wasn't even that much info. It was the way it spelled out everything to do with the parasite in a single dump; not least the ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! back story of its battle with Xavier which David had no way of knowing anyway so fuck knows how he was able to explain it to himself. They've had ages to introduce the thing and maybe reveal bits of the backstory in a more organic way but nope, let's just dump it all out there and move on. Balls. Curiosity wrote: Though the thing in the first minute... ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! That was Charles Xavier's wheelchair, right? ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! Yeah, Legion is Xavier's son in the comics so that part isn't a too big a twist. Curiosity wrote: Only one episode left! I personally foresee an ending where either: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! There's a layer of astral plane or whatever more than they think, so a lot of stuff didn't actually happen (if they went too far and made the entire thing inside his head that would probably be shit though), or They think they've won but the parasite chap has Twin Peaks'd himself into someone else's head (probably Jermaine's). ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I definitely think Jermaine's character will be the key somehow. It struck me as odd at the time that he was just suddently 'there' in the real world after being gone for so long and they seem to be heavily signposting the fact that he doesn't remember his wife at all. Certainly in the comics the Shadow King's whole deal is jumping around from brain to brain so that'll almost certainly be the basis of it.

Author:	Bamba [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:44 ]
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Something else I wondered about: what's the deal with Lennny in general? He definitely existed because David's ex-girlfriend remembered him so has he just dropped out of David's life at some unknown point and then the parasite's taken over all those memories in David's head? I thought I remembered Syd actually interacting with and referencing the female version when they were in the asylum (doesn't she talk about how she killed his best friend when they swapped bodies and she freaked out?) but that can't be true because that version never actually existed so am I just misremembering or is that still unexplained?

Author:	Findus Fop [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:55 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: Preacher S2 teaser trailer FUCKING YES. Favourite show of last year. Loving Dexys' too.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:01 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: zaphod79 wrote: Preacher S2 teaser trailer FUCKING YES. Favourite show of last year. Loving Dexys' too. Can't wait!

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:20 ]
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Watched most of The Good Place yesterday. Lots of fun, and the cast are all really good at their roles. Not often a laugh out loud funny show, though I did sometimes, but well worth watching. Season 2 could be interesting...

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:27 ]
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Cras wrote: Wait, is it not tits and pirates? Yes, it is, which is great, obviously. Not really sure what he's getting at there. +++MELON MELON MELON+++ OUT OF CHEESE ERROR++++REDO FROM START++++

Author:	zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 11:50 ]
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Bamba wrote: Something else I wondered about: what's the deal with Lennny in general? He definitely existed because David's ex-girlfriend remembered him so has he just dropped out of David's life at some unknown point and then the parasite's taken over all those memories in David's head? I thought I remembered Syd actually interacting with and referencing the female version when they were in the asylum (doesn't she talk about how she killed his best friend when they swapped bodies and she freaked out?) but that can't be true because that version never actually existed so am I just misremembering or is that still unexplained? Unexplained I watched the first episode closely expecting that Lenny was all in Davids head (that was my idea at the very start) , and you see other people interact with her at different points - we just dont know if that was real or not. If she was not there after having David body swap with Syd - did that damage the parasite and is that a possible way to get it out of Davids head ? The problem with things is its all unreliable memories because the parasite can use Davids powers to change others memories, so you cant trust anyone's recollection (Lenny was male at some points / female at others and the Parasite was their childhood dog that then did not exist)

Author:	Curiosity [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:55 ]
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AFAIK Lenny was the girl in the hospital, who was a friend of David. The bloke in his past with the similar name was just another rando, whom the parasite blended into the girl to make it seem like they were friends and went way back. Girl Lenny was real and Syd did kill her by accident when in David's body. The Shadow King then used those memories as a way to talk to David more explicitly, as he was getting too scared and unpredictable when confronted with the yellow-eyed demon form. So said King needed a new way to influence David, and Lenny happened to be a recent memory. As for Jermaine (I can't remember his character's name), he must be well dodgy now. He's magically back? Very suspicious. David could feasibly do it, but hmmmmmm. Lots to do with that Sanctuary seem unsettling and slightly off. Not least that everywhere they go seems to be sort of connected to the forest (which I hope doesn't mean all these locations are in David's head). Only one episode to go though! God I hope they stick the landing.

Author:	markg [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 12:58 ]
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Curiosity wrote: AFAIK Lenny was the girl in the hospital, who was a friend of David. The bloke in his past with the similar name was just another rando, whom the parasite blended into the girl to make it seem like they were friends and went way back. Girl Lenny was real and Syd did kill her by accident when in David's body. The Shadow King then used those memories as a way to talk to David more explicitly, as he was getting too scared and unpredictable when confronted with the yellow-eyed demon form. So said King needed a new way to influence David, and Lenny happened to be a recent memory.. That's what I thought. It obviously needed more exposition for Bamba.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 13:56 ]
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Given how much of this is unknown that's a good hypothesis , but I'm not 100% convinced. You have the 'old' druggy memory's with Lenny (F) , which then contradict with the explanation given by the ex-girlfriend (and the early doctor , or was that all fake since it was not really him but the other mutant?) of Lenny as a man. How much of Davids memories are really and how much are replaced or have been re-written to fit a narrative are unclear , and even removing the parasite may never give you a clear answer one way or the other ? My questions : What actually happened in the kitchen flashback we've seen a few times with everything exploding around him ? What happened to him as a kid with that creepy house ? What happened to his parents (okay his adopted parents) ? Is the Paper Maché head character just an early version of the parasite or is that something else ? What is the 'X' symbol that the parasite is searching for in his and other peoples memories ? I do hope for some resolution to the current arc but since they have confirmed a season 2 (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/legion- ... 202009529/ ) I think there will be a lot of stuff they will just leave hanging. After an odd first episode the 'middle' part of the show has been amazing and its one of the best TV shows I've seen in years , the last few eps have been a little disappointing in how things are being wrapped up (and a little bit of filler in places) but if you've not watched this you really should edit I should probably add i've not read anything online about this and have never read the comics its based on

Author:	Bamba [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 13:59 ]
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I've just been reminded from reading some articles about all this that the male version from David's past is actually called Benny rather than Lenny according to the ex-girlfriend. Not that that changes anything.

Author:	Curiosity [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 14:42 ]
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Yeah. To my mind he was just a nobody [EDIT - well, a friend but nobody THAT notable] that the parasite changed in David's memories to gain his trust.

Author:	Curiosity [ Mon Mar 27, 2017 14:44 ]
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Also, from this week: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I loved the way the SK killed Creepy Art Garfunkel! That was well gross, though it does seem like a waste of a character that was never fully explored. Or is he really dead? Was that all in David's mind? gasp

Author:	Curiosity [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 22:40 ]
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Legion Season Finale: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! It was... good? Goodish? It didn't quite nail it, IMO, though the series as a whole is one of my favourite of recent years. Aubrey Plaza has been amazing throughout, and her bits with Dan Stevens have been the standout parts to me. She did some excellent eyeball acting this week. The ending played out as I expected, but somehow with a little less drama than I had hoped. The scene with it being passed around was kinda cool though. Anyway, cracking series. Will watch S2.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Fri Mar 31, 2017 0:45 ]
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Curiosity wrote: Legion Season Finale: Post credits scene if you did not see it And I pretty much agree with your comments

Author:	Curiosity [ Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:45 ]
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zaphod79 wrote: Curiosity wrote: Legion Season Finale: Post credits scene if you did not see it And I pretty much agree with your comments Gah!

Author:	LewieP [ Fri Mar 31, 2017 7:23 ]
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This is me posting about how bad Iron Fist is during the final episode to break the monotony of watching Iron Fist.

Author:	Bamba [ Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:27 ]
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Curiosity wrote: Legion Season Finale: ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! It was... good? Goodish? It didn't quite nail it, IMO, though the series as a whole is one of my favourite of recent years. Aubrey Plaza has been amazing throughout, and her bits with Dan Stevens have been the standout parts to me. She did some excellent eyeball acting this week. The ending played out as I expected, but somehow with a little less drama than I had hoped. The scene with it being passed around was kinda cool though. Anyway, cracking series. Will watch S2. ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view! I agree with all of this. I was slightly disappointed with the last episode but I couldn't put my finger on why because there was nothing I could call out as being actually 'bad'. I did enjoy the interplay between David and the interrogator guy ("Now we'll have to work together." "sigh I know, I'll talk to them.") but was less impressed by all the stuff before that showing his recovery from the burning incident at the pool (yeah, yeah, he's a real human being with a life and loved ones, we get it; but fuck him, he was purposely doing a job that involved holding people against their will and lying to them so he can suck it up). Oh, and the bit at the start with David casually building a writhing pile of bodies while the interrogator realises quite how fucked he is was awesome. Anyway, as a whole I've fucking loved it so am definitely looking forward to the second season.

Author:	LewieP [ Sun Apr 02, 2017 6:59 ]
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Rick & Morty season three episode one is fucking astounding.

Author:	zaphod79 [ Mon Apr 03, 2017 13:31 ]
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Preacher S2 teaser trailer

Author:	markg [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:33 ]
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Watched the last episode of Black Sails last night. Really loved that show by the later seasons. I thought the ending was pretty great too, the ambiguity and the themes about storytelling were really nicely done. Well worth a go if anyone is looking for something to watch that's not ultimately going to dwindle away into some nonsensical pish.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:54 ]
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I loved Black Sails - I still haven't got round to watching the last series - have been waiting until Ruth's done with whatever girly crap she's watching at the moment.

Author:	markg [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:06 ]
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MrChris wrote: I loved Black Sails - I still haven't got round to watching the last series - have been waiting until Ruth's done with whatever girly crap she's watching at the moment. It's the best series of the lot and the finale is fucking great.

Author:	MrChris [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:11 ]
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markg wrote: MrChris wrote: I loved Black Sails - I still haven't got round to watching the last series - have been waiting until Ruth's done with whatever girly crap she's watching at the moment. It's the best series of the lot and the finale is fucking great. That's hugely gratifying to hear - I was worried about how they were going to end it. Yay!

Author:	Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:20 ]
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Such a change from how Black Sails started when it was easy to dismiss as tits and pirates.

Author:	Cras [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:20 ]
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Wait, is it not tits and pirates?