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Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:05 ]
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S03: it's Dinesh! And Murray!
Author:  asfish [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:18 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Having watched the second episode of Lucifer, the format really is holding it back imo. There is a great deal to like about it, but I think I am going to have to check out if it is just about solving a murder every week.



Watched this last night and I agree with you on the promise. but its a bit weak so far.

Started watching the Magicians last night, enjoying it so far. You would be forgiven for thinking Harry Potter rip off but its quiet good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4254242/
Author:  markg [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 10:28 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Having watched the second episode of Lucifer, the format really is holding it back imo. There is a great deal to like about it, but I think I am going to have to check out if it is just about solving a murder every week.

Watched the second one too, although for me rather than the format I'm starting to think that it's his whole shtick that might get a bit tiresome.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 20:07 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
We've just watched episode three and I loved the ridiculousness of it!

"Mulder, I don't think the Internet is good for you." :D

I don't normally find myself entertained by that sort of thing, but this is The X-files! :luv:

Holy shit, that was amazing!

Mulder's ring tone!
Scully doing porn!
Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 21:53 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
We've just watched episode three and I loved the ridiculousness of it!

"Mulder, I don't think the Internet is good for you." :D

I don't normally find myself entertained by that sort of thing, but this is The X-files! :luv:

Holy shit, that was amazing!

Mulder's ring tone!
Scully doing porn!

Right?!!
Right??!
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 22:29 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Goddess Jasmine wrote:
We've just watched episode three and I loved the ridiculousness of it!

"Mulder, I don't think the Internet is good for you." :D

I don't normally find myself entertained by that sort of thing, but this is The X-files! :luv:

Holy shit, that was amazing!

Mulder's ring tone!
Scully doing porn!


It's completely batshit crazy. Absolutely fantastic stuff.
Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 22:48 ]
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Ha! Episode 3 of the new X-Files is tremendously silly fun.

And I still totes have the hots for Gillian Anderson.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 22:55 ]
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I think that just means you aren't dead.
Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Feb 03, 2016 22:58 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I think that just means you aren't dead.


Well yes there is that.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:20 ]
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She just gets better looking as she gets older.

Much like Vorderman.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:22 ]
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Marisa Tomei
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:28 ]
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Lara Flynn Boyle

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Not
Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:37 ]
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Dana Carvey

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NOOOOOOOTT
Author:  Cras [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:47 ]
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Grim... wrote:
She just gets better looking as she gets older.

Much like Vorderman.


See, I kinda reluctantly disagree. In the first episode at least, she looks like her skin is stretched too tightly across her face. She's still a good looking woman, don't get me wrong, but she's not really doing it for me any more
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:08 ]
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Gillian still looks delightful.

I did give up after episode 1 though, and went back to watching series 2.

Ep 9 of The Expanse and it continues to be aces.

Good Wife is still brilliant - it was always good, but it took a massive upturn after
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Will died
, as he was massively annoying. And ugly.
Author:  myp [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:10 ]
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Grim... wrote:
She just gets better looking as she gets older.

Much like Vorderman.

I read this as Voldemort.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:40 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Gillian still looks delightful.

I did give up after episode 1 though, and went back to watching series 2.

It gets better, and then it gets better.
Author:  MrChris [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:14 ]
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Because the script improves, or is that just because of the boobies?
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:18 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Because the script improves, or is that just because of the boobies?


Both. Episode 3 is one of the finest that the X Files had ever done.
Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 12:20 ]
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Damned with faint praise.
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 20:44 ]
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I just attempted to watch the new Louis CK thing ("Horace and Andy"; he and Steve Buscemi own a bar together with Alan Alda playing a bartender) and made it about half an hour through it's seventy minutes before I couldn't take any more. It's not bad per se, it's just utterly unrelentingly fucking miserable. It's filmed as a play basically so is quite 'real' and the very rare moment of humour is completely overwhelmed by how horrible a time everyone's having. Just, fucking hell.
Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 22:30 ]
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Intrigued now, I hadn't even heard of it.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 22:49 ]
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For context, how do you feel about Louie?
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Feb 04, 2016 23:28 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
For context, how do you feel about Louie?


I haven't actually seen much of his stuff. A few bits of his stand up, which I liked, and I think I watched one episode of his sitcom which again I enjoyed (but apparently not enough to watch any more).
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 0:16 ]
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Louie is his sitcom. (His name is Louis.) I ask because although I love it, it's an acquired taste, which sound like it may also be true (and in similar ways) to what you are describing.
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:28 ]
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Louie is magnificent, maybe one of the smartest sitcoms in years.
Author:  Morte [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 8:21 ]
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I am very much in agreement with LewieP.
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 9:22 ]
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What viewing options are there for the discerning wannabe-Louie-viewer?
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:31 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
What viewing options are there for the discerning wannabe-Louie-viewer?


If you mean the new thing he's done then you buy it directly from his website here for $5 or pirate it, basically.
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Feb 05, 2016 13:15 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
What viewing options are there for the discerning wannabe-Louie-viewer?


If you mean the new thing he's done then you buy it directly from his website here for $5 or pirate it, basically.

I meant the sitcom really. I've seen a couple of screengrabs and it looks good.
Author:  Bamba [ Sat Feb 06, 2016 20:57 ]
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Just finished watching the first episode of Jessica Jones and it was pretty damn good; and had an impressively twisted ending. I seem to have started binge watching the rest of them now.
Author:  Morte [ Sun Feb 07, 2016 16:50 ]
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You will not be disappointed.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 08, 2016 10:59 ]
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Oh, apparently I watched the season finale of The Expanse without realising it was the finale.

That's some good TV, but only ten episodes? Booooo!
Author:  markg [ Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:12 ]
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Started watching "Into The Badlands" might watch another episode but only because it seems to be fairly well regarded. The fighting was ok but the plot seems to be largely nonsensical. Set in the future in America somewhere after some sort of an apocalypse they're all kung fu fighting and with knives and whatnot at the behest of a load of heroin barons. They're kung fu fighting to the death because apparently guns have been "banished".
Author:  DBSnappa [ Mon Feb 08, 2016 13:00 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Oh, apparently I watched the season finale of The Expanse without realising it was the finale.

That's some good TV, but only ten episodes? Booooo!


I've not watched it yet, but picked up a brief headline synopsis
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the Rocinante crew and the belter detective have finally joined forces


In which case that's only about half way through the first book!
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 0:30 ]
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Just finished watching all of Jessica Jones and, a few misteps aside, it was generally very good stuff. It did get a bit comic book-y at a certain point and a number of the characters felt like superfluous filler (especially the mental neighbour sister woman, I don't think I've ever wished death on a fictional character quite as much before; just shut up and fuck off you wanker) but it rallied again nearer the end and overall it was good stuff.

I do wonder about the wisdom of giving it a second series though simply because
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the character was so defined by her past with Kilgrave that, with him dead, I'm sceptical they'll be able to do anything quite as good with any subsequent series. On the other hand it's good they killed him off because after his very strong introduction I felt he lost a lot of his menace as things progressed and if they'd let him live he would just have been really fucking annoying in a second series.


I'm actually a bit torn about him in general. At the start the entire idea of him is genuinely fucking chilling. More so even than galactic level baddies like your Thanoses and whatnot there's something utterly terrifying about the havoc he can wreak on individual lives and the straight up terror you'd feel if he turned his attentions on you, especially given how much of a total sociopath he is. The worst you could really fear from almost anyone else is that they kill you, which is what it is. But the idea that he could spend minutes or years or any amount of time in between casually violating your free will is just fucking brrrrrr. As things progressed though he started to seem, I dunno, whiny? I mean the progression of the character made complete sense and the way they even managed to make you feel fleetingly sympathetic for him was a credit to the writing, but along the way he somehow totally lost the compelling edge he originally had. And that was long before you find out about
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Jessica's immunity to him.


Actually, that last plot point made her seem a bit stupid in retrospect. The scene with
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her walking away from him just before he gets hit by the bus is flashed back to loads of times and it's clearly shown that he tries a couple of times to get her to obey him without success and yet she never questions it at any time. I mean it's a clever twist and works really well in context of her voluntarily spending time with him and his claim that he didn't force her to do anything on principle (when really it's because he no longer can), but the fact that it's been obvious the entire time sort of undermines it a bit. I think it would've been a more effective reveal if there had been no hint of it at all right up until the last moment.


Those are fairly minor criticisms though and overall I thought it was excellent.

tl;dr: Jessica Jones is very good and people should watch it.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 0:33 ]
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I wonder what I should start watching next? I have the following to get through if anyone has any strong feelings either way:

  • Friday Night Lights (not sure if I'll bother with this actually, but I have heard very good things about it)
  • In The Flesh
  • Show Me A Hero
  • The Affair
  • The Last Man On Earth
  • The Returned season 2
  • Utopia
Author:  Cras [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:33 ]
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Disagree on JJ. His petulance is the best part of him. All that power combined with the mind of a spoiled brat - now that's chilling.
Author:  LewieP [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 3:37 ]
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Utopia is one of the best show in recent years. It does reach an acceptable conclusion, but it's criminal that they didn't give it a third series.
Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:24 ]
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Episode 4 of new X-Files was OK I thought, apart from Scully
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in the hospital with her 'mom' and trying to somewhat tenuously link it to the main theme of the episode. Every time it cut to the hospital I was like, 'Meh'.


Lacking the playfun fun of Episode 3, but still a decent enough slice of telly I thought.

I have decided Gillian has gone under the surgeon's knife though, which is a shame. Her face doesn't move properly.

On the other hand, extra points for her worrying
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at the hospital
with a well-unbuttoned shirt.
Author:  Malc [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:02 ]
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Can I request that x-files chat is spoilered please?

I am watching at Channel 5 speed, and have only seen episode 1, now I know at some point that:

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Scully goes to visit her mum in hospital


Now that might be really minor and of no consequence, but I'd rather not know

Thanks
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:21 ]
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Her mum's an alien.
Author:  Hearthly [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:22 ]
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Fair enough Malc I've spoilered those lines out, I did consider spoiling them originally but decided it was a trivial detail, but I can understand others feeling differently :)
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:30 ]
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Cras wrote:
Disagree on JJ. His petulance is the best part of him. All that power combined with the mind of a spoiled brat - now that's chilling.


To an extent I agree, but when he initially turns up it's the fact that he's a callous sociopath with no empathy and all that power which I think makes him affecting. The fleshing out of his back story and character is fine in itself but at some point along the way I think he lost some of what made him so threatening in the first place. On paper what they did with him sounds fine, a good idea even, but somewhere in the execution they lost me a bit; although I admit I can't point to anything concrete that I think they fluffed or anything.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:37 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Friday Night Lights (not sure if I'll bother with this actually, but I have heard very good things about it)

Those things being "Lyla Garrity".

The first episode is really good, so if you watch that and don't think "this is really good", then don't bother.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:45 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Friday Night Lights (not sure if I'll bother with this actually, but I have heard very good things about it)

Those things being "Lyla Garrity".

The first episode is really good, so if you watch that and don't think "this is really good", then don't bother.


I'm slightly put off that (a) it's about American Football which I couldn't give less of a shit about and (b) there's 76 episodes to be ploughed through if I get into it. Christ, look at me moaning that there's too much of something I might enjoy. Anyway, yeah, not sure about it. I'll probably go for The Returned or Lewie's recommendation of Utopia first because they're pretty short in terms of episodes and it'll feel satisfying to clear out more of my backlog after having powered through Jessica Jones.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:48 ]
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Goddammit! While looking up Minka Keely after Grim's post I've now stumbled across a whole other TV series that sounds interesting in the shape of Man Seeking Woman.
Author:  Findus Fop [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:09 ]
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Bamba wrote:
I wonder what I should start watching next? I have the following to get through if anyone has any strong feelings either way:

  • Friday Night Lights (not sure if I'll bother with this actually, but I have heard very good things about it)
  • In The Flesh
  • Show Me A Hero
  • The Affair
  • The Last Man On Earth
  • The Returned season 2
  • Utopia


I started Friday Night Lights, got most way through the first series and felt no compulsion to go back. The prospect of another 50-odd episodes put me off. Perfectly enjoyable and I'm sure I'd have shed a few tears throughout. The fact it's Whedon's favourite show makes me think I should revisit it.

Lewie is spot on entirely about Utopia.

Stuff I've been enjoying enormously lately and would recommend , if they've somehow passed you by:

The Bridge (a tailing off in Season 2 is counteracted by a storming season 3)
An Honourable Woman - some of the tensest business on TV. And some brilliantly darkly comic scenes to boot.
Hannibal - I always seem to watch this when I'm eating, which is a mistake. The most gruesome program I've ever watched, but so artistically done I can just about stomach it. Just started the third series.
London Spy - slow start but quickly picks up. Onto the last episode.
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:27 ]
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Friday Night Lights is brilliant, however it's a US soap opera basically. I've very well written, and very well acted, and very well made, but still a soap opera. So don't go in expecting anything else.
I'm not into american football, but even though that's what it's about, it's not really about that, really... :D

First series is very good indeed, the other four drop in quality year on year though.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Feb 10, 2016 11:31 ]
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Trooper wrote:
First series is very good indeed, the other[s] [...] drop in quality year on year though.


Describes so very many US TV shows.
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