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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 8:50 
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The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


America is quite the enigma, given things like this can be juxtaposed with its production of forward free liberal thinking cinematography dealing with complex issues sensitively as seen in Days of Thunder.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:00 
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We watched the first two of these last night. It's really interesting but I am not sure I can make it through the entire lot because I was just so infuriated at the end of the first case.

The judge dished out the sentences in a rage himself, hardly the dispassionate arbiter acting purely on the basis of law that he should have been.

The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


There's one where the judge basically says 'I don't think this man is guilty of the crimes he's accused of, and the jury has got it wrong. But I am now going to sentence him for four murders and one attempted murder. Cheers.'

The 'confession' was actually deemed inadmissible in court, but then the media essentially told everyone about it anyway.

That was a headfuck.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:23 
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Hearthly wrote:
Trousers wrote:
We watched the first two of these last night. It's really interesting but I am not sure I can make it through the entire lot because I was just so infuriated at the end of the first case.

The judge dished out the sentences in a rage himself, hardly the dispassionate arbiter acting purely on the basis of law that he should have been.

The American Justice system is a disgrace at times.


There's one where the judge basically says 'I don't think this man is guilty of the crimes he's accused of, and the jury has got it wrong. But I am now going to sentence him for four murders and one attempted murder. Cheers.'

The 'confession' was actually deemed inadmissible in court, but then the media essentially told everyone about it anyway.

That was a headfuck.
Some of the cases much more than others did seem to be very compelling in terms of showing a miscarriage of justice but really I have no idea. And I don't have any more of a reason to trust these journalists over the ones who influenced the original trials. I can't help wondering if the filmmakers worried that viewers might be insufficiently outraged over the obvious malpractices if they came away thinking that the defendants were probably guilty anyway. I would have no trouble if they wanted to convince me that these were unsafe convictions but I think they wanted to go a bit further than that.

I'm not saying that there wasn't some really, really fucking sketchy police work going on but I also can't help feeling that as in the case of Making A Murderer we might not have seen some fairly important evidence that pointed toward their guilt. The willingness of some of the prosecutors and the police to give interviews about that time they apparently just straight up framed someone made me wonder a bit about whether there was something I was not being told. And the footnotes that all their appeals had been exhausted. So another court heard all the same evidence but came to the same conclusions. :shrug:


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 10:39 
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RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


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RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Yes, you definitely should! Indeed he's great (got an Emmy for the role). The rest of the cast is also fantastic. Linda Cardelinni is a hottie and there's the legendary Sissi Spacek.

Love both the guys who play John and Kevin. John is so badass while Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent that gets hilarious sometimes.


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Linda Cardellini is indeed very hot.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 12:51 
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RuySan wrote:
LewieP wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent


I think this is why we gave up part way through series 2. He's a hysterical bell end.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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Findus Fop wrote:
RuySan wrote:
LewieP wrote:
RuySan wrote:
Does anyone here watches Bloodline?

I'm currently at half of the 3rd season, and it's even more addictive than before. Amazing acting all the way. It's a shame this show didn't had more success. Also the Floridian setting with the humid weather and all the actors sweating all the time give it a nice vibe.

I started watching the first season because Ben Mendelsohn is a really good actor. It was OK, but felt super predictable, even though all the acting was great.

I got about halfway in and then got distracted by something or other. Should I revisit it?


Kevin is so pathetic and incompetent


I think this is why we gave up part way through series 2. He's a hysterical bell end.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2017 15:10 
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Some of the cases much more than others did seem to be very compelling in terms of showing a miscarriage of justice but really I have no idea. And I don't have any more of a reason to trust these journalists over the ones who influenced the original trials. I can't help wondering if the filmmakers worried that viewers might be insufficiently outraged over the obvious malpractices if they came away thinking that the defendants were probably guilty anyway. I would have no trouble if they wanted to convince me that these were unsafe convictions but I think they wanted to go a bit further than that.

I'm not saying that there wasn't some really, really fucking sketchy police work going on but I also can't help feeling that as in the case of Making A Murderer we might not have seen some fairly important evidence that pointed toward their guilt. The willingness of some of the prosecutors and the police to give interviews about that time they apparently just straight up framed someone made me wonder a bit about whether there was something I was not being told. And the footnotes that all their appeals had been exhausted. So another court heard all the same evidence but came to the same conclusions. :shrug:


From memory in half the cases (or more?) the prosecution/police refused to be interviewed for the programme, which suggests they weren't at all keen to revisit the cases.

In the cases where they did talk, I got the feeling they generally thought they were in the right and didn't see an issue with how they'd conducted themselves.

But yes, a bit more information about the appeals would have been helpful, and it's possible important information was omitted from the programmes themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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Yeah, I just found it a bit frustrating I suppose. But the takeaway is if you ever get accused of something you either did or didn't do, don't ever talk to the police on your own.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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markg wrote:
Yeah, I just found it a bit frustrating I suppose. But the takeaway is if you ever get accused of something you either did or didn't do, don't ever talk to the police on your own.

You can go further than that - don't ever talk to the police on your own.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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We’ve started watching this, against the advice of everyone. It’s chilling, and honestly the clips of the interrogations amount to nothing short of brainwashing.

HOWEVER... the father of the guy in the first two episodes had possibly the greatest voice that’s ever been on TV. Canadian/landed gentry/Sean Connery all smashed into one amazing accent.

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Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.


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Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.

better call Saul?

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Ah yes, very good point.


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I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread
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I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....


OH MY GOD TWENTy MINUTES IN IT IS AMAZING

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I'm going to hold off so I can binge them again.....


OH MY GOD TWENTy MINUTES IN IT IS AMAZING


That was beautiful.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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Halt And Catch Fire. Still excellent, funny and heartbreaking all the the same time.

I can't think of another show that uses quiet, tiny moments to such great effect.


And it's done.
A very good finale IMO, but not quite as wow as some of the episodes.
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.


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Done with Bloodlines. It's a shame they couldn't make more seasons of it. S3 was obviously a rush job in some parts to get the storyline done, and some plot lines were solved in a pretty stupid way, but it was still a stellar show that maybe was just too slow for netflix. I would say it could have been a better fix for HBO but then HBO might have cancelled it just after one season like Vinyl.


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