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 Post subject: General Purpose US TV thread
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 17:19 
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So as to avoid dragging the existing thread about Fringe further off-topic, here is a new thread what I done made.

So, Heroes and Chuck are tanking in the ratings:
NBC’s two younger-skewing action dramas fell sharply yet again. "Chuck" (5.8 million, 2.3/8) dropped 15% and "Heroes" (8.2 million, 4.0/9) dropped 11%. At 10 p.m., "Life" (5.6 million, 2.2/6) also fell, down 19%.

Not to gawk at the overturned semi-truck on the freeway, but that "Heroes" number is startling -- a series low by far (as is "Chuck") and marking the show's third week of decline. The action series matched "How I Met Your Mother" (!) for the first time.

"Heroes" was NBC's strongest scripted series the past couple years and is now fading with alarmingly quickness. It's a clear problem ... without a clear solution. Episodes this season have continued the show's dense and sometimes difficult-to-follow mythology (here's Maureen Ryan throwing up her hands and giving up on the show). That two-hour season premiere following a one-hour recap special felt like a headache-inducing mistake -- by the time you finished watching all three hours you've seen practically every character die and come back to life. Yet it still feels superior to last season. One can only hope the show has now established its third-week ratings bottom.


I've not seen Chuck yet, and only the first two Heroes (i.e. both parts of the two-hour opener). I think I agree that Heroes has been too dense. Perhaps you are supposed to have read all the comics and ARG websites, because just off the TV show even I'm finding it slightly heavy going.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 18:13 
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Wait - are you saying Heroes is hard to understand? I thought it had an excellent learning curve.
[edit]Unless you're not talking about Series 1.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Any "The big bang theory" fans here?


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 19:02 
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Both Dexter and American Dad are off to storming starts. Ep two of the latter is possibly the most finely crafted episode of a US sitcom since Seinfeld's "The Betrayal".

It's not all good. The excellent Izzard/Driver drama The Riches has been cancelled by FX. And because of the writer's strike, the show has been pulled right in the middle of what would have been season two.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 19:08 
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Any "The big bang theory" fans here?
Yes.

Also, Chuck season 1 is good. I'm not sure there's much life in it, though.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 19:16 
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Dexter remains awesome. I'm not sure I'll ever get bored of a TV show where a total owner kills people.

The Heroes plot is wonking all over the place in an effort to remain interesting. I do worry about that. It's gone from being a show I look forward to seeing to a show I watch because I've already invested the time in S1 and 2. It's for this reason, for some fucking reason, I still watch Smallville. I'm desperate for that to end so I can stop watching the fucking thing.

I'm also looking forward to more US Office, which remains brillo.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Wait - are you saying Heroes is hard to understand? I thought it had an excellent learning curve. [edit]Unless you're not talking about Series 1.
No, I'm on about season 3.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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RuySan wrote:
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Yes. It should be awful then amazingly failed to be anything like it.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 20:00 
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I'm quite hopefully about The Mentalist based on both the excellent name and the concept (ex-fake-TV-psychic-uses-his-derren-brown-powers-to-help-the-police).

It could swerve massively in tone though and end up anywhere between CSI, Monk and Dexter. But as I said, hopeful.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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The Heroes plot is wonking all over the place in an effort to remain interesting. I do worry about that. It's gone from being a show I look forward to seeing to a show I watch because I've already invested the time in S1 and 2..


Yeah, I watched all of series one and half of series two of Heroes, all the time waiting for it to get as good as everyone said it was. I just couldn't connect with any of the characters.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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ComicalGnomes wrote:
The Heroes plot is wonking all over the place in an effort to remain interesting. I do worry about that. It's gone from being a show I look forward to seeing to a show I watch because I've already invested the time in S1 and 2..


Yeah, I watched all of series one and half of series two of Heroes, all the time waiting for it to get as good as everyone said it was. I just couldn't connect with any of the characters.


I know what you mean about the lack of sympathetic characters, but somehow I still enjoy it anyway. I think Ando is my favourite character, probably for the very reason that he has no powers and is just dragged along as a sidekick, making him easier to identify with. Christopher Eccleston was good, too.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Yeah, I watched all of series one and half of series two of Heroes, all the time waiting for it to get as good as everyone said it was. I just couldn't connect with any of the characters.


You didn't even like Hiro? But yeah, if you got to the end of S1 and weren't into it, you might as well give up. Season 2 was a bloody mess.

I think that tail end piece has Heroes spot on - just too much happens at the start of S3 (and that's from someone who only finished watching S2 last week, so it's fresher in my mind than it would be for most people), but it's definitely a step up from the I-Feel-Like-I'm-Taking-Crazy-Pills second season.

And hey - Marlo Stansfield's in it.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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I'm looking forward to the American version of Life On Mars after the spectacularly shit first pilot to see if they can turn it around.

And 30 Rock can't come back soon enough


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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And hey - Marlo Stansfield's in it.


Commissioner Daniels is in Fringe. They is getting everywhere after the Wire eh


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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RuySan wrote:
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yup.... was great..

and the cute blonde helped :)

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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I definitely think Heroes has jumped the shark. It's fucking ridiculous and feels desperate. It's going to get two more episodes to make amends then I'm ditching it if it carries on with the stupidly complex narrative.

Dexter season 3 is just awesome.

Chuck season 2 is good also - though the second episode wasn't as good as the second.

Terminator SCC is good as well. It's very well written but obviously doesn't have a huge budget.

I'm a couple of episodes behind on True Blood but was enjoying it, but don't know where they're going to take it.

Burn Notice is entertaining formulaic tosh - perfectly watchable but I'm not sure I'll make it through the entire series.

I must get back to 30 Rock. I've only seen the first 4 episodes of the first series.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Dexter 3 is being aired???? Yes!!

*punches the air*

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
PostPosted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 8:52 
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I'm afraid I am a gimmick account created only for the purpose of making a very poor joke.
Apologies if I got your hopes up. :kiss:


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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I'm afraid I am a gimmick account created only for the purpose of making a very poor joke.
Apologies if I got your hopes up. :kiss:


That's quite sad really. Your only existance is for the purpose of cheap comedy. I mourn for you, Mr Air.

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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Series we're watching at the moment are currently ranked thusly:

Sons of Anarchy (getting better and better with each episode now the setup is out of the way, wild west on motorbikes basically) > Chuck 2 (always fun) > Heroes 3 (teetering on the brink) > > Fringe (now given up on) > > > > > > > Knight Rider 2008 (a hahahahahahaha)


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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We are watching (in order of entertainment):

House S5
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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I'm afraid I am a gimmick account created only for the purpose of making a very poor joke.
Apologies if I got your hopes up. :kiss:


That's quite sad really. Your only existance is for the purpose of cheap comedy. I mourn for you, Mr Air.


My real account mainly exists for cheap comedy as well, so I'm used to it.


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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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 Post subject: Re: General Purpose US TV thread for Autumn 2008
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Are you Titler?


3 posts (before this one). Average of 2 lines per post. What do you think?


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Dexter 3 is being aired???? Yes!!

*punches the air*

In america at the moment. Not sure when it's scheduled for UK transmission.

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