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I may not have the facts 100% correct, but it was something like that. I think the secondary fermentation is simply to provide fizz in ale type beers, where as lagers don't require it (may be bullshit).

Ales don't fucking require it either. Bastards.

If Tesco employ people who don't know what they're doing to sell high value goods then it's their problem- especially if you double checked before leaving the shop. If it was a small independent retailor my guilt might make me return it, but then they probably wouldn't employ a chimp without a clue about system specs in the first place.

And once again everyone is ignoring it wasn't a better version of the same laptop, it was a completely different product and one unsuitable for Gaz's needs.

No, we're debating something slightly different, which is the moral stance of exploiting a retailer's mistakes.

Special Brew: a drink never enjoyed indoors.

Only when numpties use them... mine was never out. If you do things properly it would not be.

a fellow ale drinker..... hmmmm camra festivals

Never had to sell to two thousand tourists then?

I have worked in some very very busy stores. and always right.

Why rush so you force yourself to make mistakes?

Oopsie! Wrong thread.

What I don't know about is the legality of sharing threads

Because being a few quid out at the end of a day is far better than being a slow-arsed obsessive who'll just make the already busy people in the very long queue even more annoyed, for one thing. Always right, my hole.

If I was in a queue, which I normally am when shopping etc, I would rather wait a few seconds, than be servered by a quick muppet that can't count or work a till correctly.

Yes was always right, There is no reason to be a few quid out, modern tills even tell you what change to give, so all you have to do is count.

Plus what happens at your store if tills, don't balance? If I had a till clerk that was always out, I would stop them working on tills.

I posted on WoS about the time Amazon sent me two Creative Zen whatsits instead of one, and I kept both. It was their bloody fault.

Since then, in a similar "free stuff"-stylee, I have gone through the checkout at Ikea and been effectively given £150-worth of free shelving due to a cretinous checkout person. I didn't notice their mistake until I got to the car, and couldn't be bothered to trundle back up to the checkouts, and faff around spending half an hour to find someone who understood I needed to pay more money, then wait for *them* to go and find their manager and so on and so on and so on. Plus - fuck 'em.

*this* is why I voted for you, Chris.

IKEA deserve absolutely everything they get.

Even the metric fuckton of cash?

When I took my jeabns abck to TopMan last week, the bloke was all set to give me 25 quid abck, but I reminded him that I had the discount, so it was less than that. I had paid with a card and it got refunded to the card, so I thought it best to be honest. With cash, hmm, I dunno though.

No, I deserve that for having to shop there.

Actually, that's unfair - the main areas of the shop are awesome as long as you can avoid meandering morons with multiple trolleys and kids in tow. It's the bit where you try and find all the missing bits of your furniture in the warehouse that are shocking. And the warehouse staff are chimps.

Me and the feyonce went to Ikea on one of the bank holiday weekends over the summer, to get most of a shelving set and have an argument. On the way in I pointed to a couple pulling out in a Fiesta; the bloke stony faced and the woman crying. It's these little traditions that make Britain great.

You can actually see relationships dissolving as you walk around Ikea - It's like a one of those time lapse films of a flower wilting and dying.

My top tip for surviving Ikea is to go mid week at about 10pm, at this time I've found it to be easily tolerable and almost verging on enjoyable.

I go after work during the week, except Friday. Never had a problem with crowds and evilness then.

Yep, weekday evening Ikea is lovely.

10pm? Is it open until midnight?

There's nothing like a good family argument on a shopping trip to pass a weekend. I seemed to spend half my childhood sat on the floor in the fabric department of John Lewis in Welwyn while my parents agonised over curtain material.

Yeah, Warrington is anyway.

Is the hotdog bit still open then though?

Their hotdogs are lushness.

They also sell (or sold) some excellent moose sausage in their food bit.

The Wembley one was last I checked.

The food section deserves to be a separate shop, it's so ace. Spicy reindeer sausages and dime bar flan FTW.

I might drive to Ikea for lunch now. Even factoring in diesel, I would be quids-in after eating six 35p hotdogs.

Go to the one in Edmonton, if you live anywhere near there, it is always empty. I went on a Saturday and parked two rows from the main door at about midday. Plus it is new and and doesn't smell as much as the Wembley one.

Not quite always empty, that was the one where several people were hospitalised on its opening day due to warring bargain hunters.

I'm not going all the way to Canada for a hotdog.

Exactly. Whether the alternative laptop was 'better' is debatable, but for the sake of this thread, it makes sense to assume it was.

And in this case, you'd have been left with a laptop you didn't want that you probably wouldn't sell on for more than the price of an EEPC.

Funnily enough, while I was in the shop waiting for the guy to come back with the correct laptop, Shin was bollocking me and I said "I wonder what Dudley would have done in this situation?" as from seeing your posts on SA we seem to have identical views re. defrauding shops and other misdemeanours

//edit: Fuck's sake, she beats me to everything.

It probably would.

But it would also be a much bigger machine, which is not what Gaz was looking for, he wanted the tiny plaything.

It's no good someone giving you a truck when you wanted a mini, even if it's worth a little more.

If they were both the same size I'm right with you

I imagine she counts that as a good thing

If a till that took three grand was 80p up or down, what happened was bugger all (or any extra would be kept aside and used to balance and future shortfall). And in every till-needing place I've worked at, nobody had their own till - everyone used it depending on who needed to.

Lots of people don't want to wait a few seconds, and would get pretty annoyed at someone making them do so for the sake of someone else's 5p. And even when you know what you're doing, shit happens. Using the till hundreds of times an hour makes mistakes pretty much inevitable for anyone.

I fear you're talking about supermarkets rather than shops, which have a very different pattern of usage. In a supermarket you probably can afford to take time, simply because so many people will happily stand there for an eternity before considering the possibility that they might have to get some money out at some point in the next week.