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http://www.empireonline.com/500/

good to see some iranian movies already in there

Im wondering if ive got the stamina to say how many Ive seen.

Really though oceans eleven and saw in the top 500 films ever? and amores perros that low?

wasnt superman returns meant to be toss.

Sean of the Dead better than Jurassic Park and Temple of Doom?

Empire magazine lost its way many years ago. It's not worth the paper its written on.

Come back HOTDOG, all is forgiven.

"In The Company Of Men" is fantastic, disgusting, abhorrent film. A must see.

Edit: The Fountain *represent*, one of my favourite films.

Edit2: ooh, and Unbreakable, I loved that.

through sheer boredom, I have counted, and I have seen 127 of those 300 films.

although i disagree with alot of the ones Ive seen there.

I might wait for the magazine to arrive.

I do hope Jason X is in the list. I put it seventh when I voted, so it might make it!

Am I confused, or does this so far only go up to 201?

yeah tomorrow another 100 and i guess the last 100 on thursday or friday.

Ah. That's silly. Numbers 500-201 are fairly meaningless without knowing what comes above them.

What's at number one, then - Citizen Kane or Godfather II?

by looking at some of the early entries I reckon a star wars or a lord of the rings.

Tremendous film.

I dont even think Ive heard of it, Ill keep my eye out.

I think I've seen 79 of what they've got so far.
I'm not particularly proud of the exact 79 as there's a lot of (supposedly) good films in there I've never seen, and there's a good few that I could add on if I could just be bothered to watch them as they're sat on the shelf behind me.

yeah i counted the ones ive got downloaded and on dvd aswell that I havent watch an dtahould add another 15 on my total if I watched them.

The only really decent writer in Empire remains Kim Newman, in my opinion. Their articles are really getting a wee bit lazy, despite the odd exception like a rather wonderful Night of the Hunter effort.

Read some of the list. Not sure what the Goonies and a bundle of others are doing in there to be honest. Also, AI better than My Neighbour Totorro? Fuck off.

I haven't looked at this yet, but it looks like a "As voted for by the public/readers" so it won't be the best film that comes top, just the most popular LCD one, so I agree that it'll probable be Star Wars or Lotr, neither of which should be in the top 50 really.

You can count on it with the Rev voting, I know deaf blind people with better taste in film than him

Did they close HOTDOG? Last I checked it was getting a readership that'd make Amstrad Action circa 1994 sob.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotdog_Magazine

For a while, it was excellent.

I only wrote it in capital letters because I loved it so.

Yeah, halve that 17000 by 2005.

Don't tell me what to do, Dudley.

I've seen 100 so far (with a few more in my "to watch" pile).

The best page for me was 242-233; out of the 10 I've seen 6 (Brighton Rock, Forrest Gump, Black Narcissus, Battle Royale, Bourne Ultimatum and Temple of Doom), with one more (Cinema Paradiso) waiting to be watched.

No 468: The Crow. Really? Is there anyone who voted for that who isn't a goth? It was awful. And "28 Days Later" higher than "Juno"? "Indiana Jones And The Kingdom Of The Crystal Skull" above "Full Metal Jacket"? "Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace" there at all? Nice to see entries like Tom and Jerry in "The Cat Concerto" there, though.

To the credit of the people who have voted, people do seem to have voted for their favourite films, rather than the films they should be seen to claim as their favourites. I'd much rather watch Army Of Darkness or Dumb And Dumber again than Un Chien Andalou*, like any rightminded person. And if Mallrats makes it into the top hundred, I'll be well chuffed.

Oh, and having rewatched it recently, The Goonies has aged terribly. It's one of those things that is much better left in the memory.

(* Edit - I stand corrected. "Un Chien Andalou" is at 354. Bah. Pretentious gits.)

Sir, I must respectfully tell you to bugger off.



I can't cope with this much wrongness this early!

(Oh, OK. The Goonies is a terribly 80's movie. But in a good way.)

80s

Also, revisiting pleasures enjoyed in childhood almost invariably leads to disappointment, and can taint the memories themselves. Best to treasure what was, and what is now, and do not try to combine the two.

I should never have bought Ulysses 31. Weep.

Good point, well made.



Ha! I thought it was shit the first time around. See: Transformers and Thundercats.

That really pisses me off about the systemic raping of my childhood memories - "Remember how everyone was into thing X. Er... no?"

AI? In the TOP 500?
*weeps*

Is Garbage Pail Kids: The Movie on the list?

This would be better if they did it as a text file.

I'd be surprised if it's that different from the top 500 on IMDB, mind.

The top twenty is in the Metro this morning.

Whither Problem Child 2?

498 is dperessing. BTTFII is one of the best movies of all time. OF ALL TIME.

2 is my favourite of the series for some reason. 3 didn't really seem BTTFy.

What THE MERRY FUCK is The Wicker Man doing at number 485? I was wondering where it would be in top hundred.

Simpletons, idiots and fools!

Jeepers. I wouldn't have put any of those top ten in the top ten. There are several between 11 and 20 that deserve places higher, but it's all a bit predictable when you get the great unwashed in to vote, I suppose.

10,000 Empire readers != great unwashed, tho.

10,000 Empire readers = bunch of nerds.

Goodfellas wants a word with you Snappa.

Goodfellas is a very good movie that I wouldn't put in the top 20 of all time movies. Word or not.

Too right. While the first one was very, very nearly as good* as the second, the wonderfully circuitous plot of the second makes it the most enjoyable. The third movie seemed to smack of "well, just in case the second film bombs, we'd better do this one on the cheap. We're only paying for one set."

(*I'd recommend watching the trivia track on the BTTF DVD. It's packed with brilliant little hidden things like how Marty travels back in time from the parking lot of the Twin Pines Mall. As he drives into 1955, he runs over a small tree before crashing into the barn. When he returns to 1985 at the end, the parking lot he dashes back to is now called the Lone Pine Mall.)

that list lost all meaning to me after i've seen sweeney todd there.

edit: Pirates of caribbean: dead men chest»????

And harry potter and the crow above "into the wild"??

was this written by a 14 year old?

Sweeney Todd's a fucking awesome movie.

fuck you stupid cunt

PHANTOM FUCKIN MENACE???

yes, i promised i would stop seeing this list. that's it, back to work.

It's a musical. +25 points
It's directed by Tim Burton. +16 points
It's got a cast of great actors. +30 points
It looks awesome. +21 points

TOTAL: 92 points.

0-30 points: Rubbish
31-50 points: All right
51-80 points: Good
81+ points: Fucking awesome

SCIENTIFIC PROOF.

it's a musical (-5)
therefore there's gayness in IT (-5)
it's music by danny elfman (at it's worse...every song sounds the same) (-30)
tim burton's gothic "atmosphere" feels more fake and cgi than ever (-20)
It has jhnny depp (-5)
it has Bonham Carter (-5)
it has sasha baron cohen (+10)

No it doesn't. It's a Stephen Sondheim musical from the '70s.

you're right. it's still crap though

its not awesome, its quite good though, and the giving points to musicals that arent made by matt and trey is ridiculous.