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Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:49 ]
Post subject:  Router Setup

I seem to remember that someone here had a router setup that automatically throttled his (or her) torrent port when there was HTTP activity.
How's that done, then? If someone can just tell me what to Google for, that would be a good start.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Router Setup

Grim... wrote:
I seem to remember that someone here had a router setup that automatically throttled his (or her) torrent port when there was HTTP activity.
How's that done, then? If someone can just tell me what to Google for, that would be a good start.
Sheepeh, I think. He's using the open source DD-WRT router firmware, which runs on a stack of commodity routers, notably Netgears. It's the QoS support you want (as in Quality of Service). Can be set to prioritise traffic via protocol or port.

Edit -- or perhaps not DD-WRT, perhaps Tomato.

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:54 ]
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I think it's QoS.

//edit: Balls to you, Dick Gaywood :p

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:55 ]
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GazChap wrote:
//edit: Balls to you, Dick Gaywood :p
You snooze, you lose.

Author:  ElephantBanjoGnome [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:57 ]
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Hmmm, what's this about then? Is it a security issue?

Author:  Cras [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:58 ]
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ComicalGnomes wrote:
Hmmm, what's this about then? Is it a security issue?


No, it's just to avoid your web browsing dropping to a crawl if you've got torrents running. Changing priorities, basically.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 16:58 ]
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No. I just don't want to have to turn my torrents off every time I want to play me some Xbox.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:00 ]
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Gah. So not looking forward to flashing my router with third-party firmware.

Wait - spare router FTW!

Author:  Cras [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:01 ]
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Have you checked your current one for QoS? It's not a particularly 'advanced' feature.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:03 ]
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Craster wrote:
Have you checked your current one for QoS? It's not a particularly 'advanced' feature.
No commodity router has anything like the support Tomato does. All I've ever seen in most home routers is support for IEE-(SUB PLEASE INSERT), which is where your VOIP traffic meekly says "hey can I be high priority please" and the router respects it. Tomato can force priorities on traffic, chose via a wide range of alternatives.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:06 ]
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Indeed, but if what's there by default meets the requirement well enough, why bother with the custom firmware?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:08 ]
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Craster wrote:
Indeed, but if what's there by default meets the requirement well enough, why bother with the custom firmware?
Because the default gubbins won't slow torrents to accomodate gaming.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:11 ]
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EVE - HIGH!
XBOX- HIGH!
BROWSING - HIGH!
TORRENTS - MEDIUM!
MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR WHO CHECK HER EMAIL ONCE A WEEK AND LETS ME USE HER PARKING SPACE FOR THE PRIVILEGE: LOW!

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Router Setup

DD-WRT was written for linksys routers (hence the name) I don't know how good it is on other ones, but it didn't break my routers. You do get all kinds of stuff to muck about with compared to the standard.

Author:  kalmar [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:17 ]
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I'm after a new router too, my old 3com one is getting decidedly flaky on the wifi side of things.
What's a good choice, I like the sounds of this custom firmware malarkey but not if it's going to involve days of buggering about with obscure unix commands to get it to work.. So maybe just one that works well by default might be nice.

I've been offered an old BT Home hub but that *has* to be hacked to even work with a non BT ISP and frankly it looks a bit sketchy.

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:24 ]
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The obscure malarky is basically downloading a file and clicking a couple of web interface buttons. I like my linysyses but I'm not up on what the current models are. My routers are just routers though- the one downstairs is sat (neatly, because they're designed to) on an ADSL gateway switch thing.

Author:  kalmar [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 17:25 ]
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Ah, yes, I meant router with wifi and ADSL modem. Give me model numbers, people!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 20:17 ]
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Bah. My rubbish Sky-provided Netgear DG834GT doesn't have anything like QoS :(

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 20:39 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Bah. My rubbish Sky-provided Netgear DG834GT doesn't have anything like QoS :(
Oh, didn't realise you were on Sky. My DG934 doesn't do any of that either. You know changing the Sky router is uniquely painful?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 20:55 ]
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And against the ToS, impressively.
There are ways to get your Sky info via URL injection, however...

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:03 ]
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Grim... wrote:
And against the ToS, impressively.
There are ways to get your Sky info via URL injection, however...
I don't think these work on the newer DG934 I have. Didn't seem to when I tried just now.

Author:  AceAceBaby [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:08 ]
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That's insane.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:09 ]
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richardgaywood wrote:
Grim... wrote:
And against the ToS, impressively.
There are ways to get your Sky info via URL injection, however...
I don't think these work on the newer DG934 I have. Didn't seem to when I tried just now.

You're downloading the netgear.cfg file to see the results?

And there's no need - you can telnet into yours.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Sep 02, 2008 21:43 ]
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Grim... wrote:
You're downloading the netgear.cfg file to see the results?
Yes. I get an error when I try to access it.

Quote:
And there's no need - you can telnet into yours.
Oh? I haven't had any need to look into hacking it. I know no-one had figured it out when I first got it, six months ago.

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