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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:28 
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To prevent against cervical cancer. Good idea that is, and I'm most pleased that they are getting them when they are young, but part of me is confused as to why there was opposition to the scheme.. I wonder if they do the 'small prick' joke as well.

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Any treatment to prevent STDs administered to children under the age of consent would be deemed to legitimize underage sex. So the objection goes, I think.

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Any treatment to prevent STDs administered to children under the age of consent would be deemed to legitimize underage sex. So the objection goes, I think.


It's a stupid objection. Worry about underage sex as opposed to worrying about cancer.

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I was speaking to a parent the other day, and we were talking about the sex education of kids, (specifically our 9/10 year olds) She was saying that 9/10 was too young for sexual education, but I completely disagree, remembering back to my primary school days there were people there, that were well on their way through puberty and that was just the teachers ah...

Sorry couldn't resist the L+H joke, but getting back to it, I don't think you can ever rely on ignorance of a subject to act as a deterent. Knowledge is power, and I'd rather kids learnt through their parents/teachers then finding out "The Facts" from Little Billy in the playground who knows stuff because he over heard his older brother talking to his mates. Or worse...

So yeah, the more sex education the better as far as I am concerned.

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Jabs
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Without knowing a lot about the educational systems of other countries, I would postulate that the reason for our shocking teenage pregnancy rate is that we don't teach kids sex education early enough in life.

I'd certainly placed my winky inside a girl by age 10; despite it not being sex, we were both at an age where we were curious enough to act on our impulses.

I, however, didn't get my first sex education lesson until three years later.

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Stop talking about sex. If everyone just shuts up about it, children won't find out about it. >:(

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I'd certainly placed my winky inside a girl by age 10

"I was so excited, I almost dropped my skateboard."

I don't know of anyone else that "placed his winky inside a girl" by that age. Hell, I didn't manage it for 12 more years ;)


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The only guy I know who made a point of telling everyone he was shagging at age 11 or whatever whenever the subject came up, was a skeevy douchebag.

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I'd certainly placed my winky inside a girl by age 10

"I was so excited, I almost dropped my skateboard."

I don't know of anyone else that "placed his winky inside a girl" by that age. Hell, I didn't manage it for 12 more years ;)


Oh don't worry, it's been embarrassingly sparse since then. I was more trying to make the point of how no sex education let me down personally.

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GazChap wrote:
I didn't manage it for 12 more years ;)

Dude that must have chaffed.

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I didn't manage it for 12 more years ;)

Dude that must have chaffed.

You have no idea. Consider the maths involved there, then consider that by my 20th birthday I was married.


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I.... what? Erm... eh?

How the fuck does that work? Two years of no-nookie married life?

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Yup. Also consider that by my 22nd birthday I was divorced :P


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Flisnadr... torgvald?

Am I to believe you got married, didn't have sex at all, and then got divorced 2 years later?

Dude, can I enquire as to what kind of loonified marriage this was? :S

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Yes, that's basically the gist of it. I'm afraid I couldn't tell you what kind of loonified marriage this was as, frankly, I have no idea myself. Was a bad idea all round, really. In a way it was something of a relief when my wife fell in love with another bloke and left me for him ;)

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Taught me some valuable life lessons, for sure.


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 Post subject: Re: HPV Jabs
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 Post subject: Re: HPV Jabs
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I'd like to hear more, because I'm baffled. Mind you, it's none of my business so don't feel compelled :hat:

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 Post subject: Re: HPV Jabs
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Wow, Gaz - that's pretty odd, though I did know a girl at Uni who dated a guy for 7 years 14-21 and never had sex during that time. He was a great guy, but I think that it had got to the point where they didn't for so very long that nether of them could actually make the move to make that step. Actually, that's not the case, I know for a fact that he tried to many times, but she wasn't having it...

I don't know anyone who had sex at 10 (!) And I'd say if your 'winky' as you called it was inside a girl then that's what it was, and yes, sex education let you down.

My primary school teacher broke school rules by telling us the facts of life at 11 years old, but it's a good job she did because my secondary school gave us no sex education at all, at any age.

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I'd like to hear more, because I'm baffled. Mind you, it's none of my business so don't feel compelled :hat:

What do you want to know? I'm not shy about it as now that I look back on it I find the entire business incredibly amusing ;)

Mimi: Your friend sounds similar to me. The lack of sex in my relationship with my ex-wife wasn't for the want of trying on my part ;)

I would never put up with it now, but as I was still sporting the fabled V-plates at the time, I think that I just wasn't aware of what I was missing so was happy to plod on without it. Luckily I went straight from that unfulfilling marriage to a very fulfilling relationship and I realised that sex is just as important a part of a relationship as everything else.


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Was she a nutbar? Who marries someone and isn't interested in sex? And if so, how did it all come about in the first place? And other highly inappropriate, nosey questions :)

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Nah, it wasn't actually. We met online, we fell in love, decided to get married, she fell in love with another bloke she met online 2 years later, we split.

I was young and naive and thought that sex wasn't that important as long as we had each other. Utter bollocks.


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Bollocks like watermelons.


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Nah, it wasn't actually. We met online, we fell in love, decided to get married, she fell in love with another bloke she met online 2 years later, we split.

I was young and naive and thought that sex wasn't that important as long as we had each other. Utter betty.


Worst advert for internet dating evarrr.
Jeez, wow, sheesh, etc.
Thats just utterly incomprehensible to me.

Why you wouldn't want to sleep with the person you "love" for one thing...
for another, getting married is usually the final barrier to even the most ardent religious or otherwise views...so to be married and no sex..wow.

Ever met anyone that wasnt off "the net" ?

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You went two years without sex before getting divorced? Christ. I'd have called the lawyer after two months.

Sex education - we had sex education in third year junior school (so age 10). Do they not do that any more?

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You went two years without sex before getting divorced? Christ. I'd have called the lawyer after two months.

Sex education - we had sex education in third year junior school (so age 10). Do they not do that any more?


So did we, but it was periods and body hair, not shagging.

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My aunt Agnus isn't on the net. I've met her. Does that count?

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My aunt Agnus isn't on the net. I've met her. Does that count?


It may do. You need to provide further details.

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My aunt Agnus isn't on the net. I've met her. Does that count?


If your ultimate goal of this meeting was sex, then yes.

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You went two years without sex before getting divorced? Christ. I'd have called the lawyer after two months.

Sex education - we had sex education in third year junior school (so age 10). Do they not do that any more?


So did we, but it was periods and body hair, not shagging.


So they told you about periods without explaining what they were related to? How the fuck did they do that? "You girls will bleed once a month. This is because you are FITHY EVIL WHORES. Questions?"

Ours was about all that plus about what happens when you put your winky in a hoohoo. We all giggled.

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I was young and naive and thought that sex wasn't that important as long as we had each other. Utter bollocks.


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Ours was about all that plus about what happens when you put your winky in a hoohoo. We all giggled.

"You know, like, when you're watchin' two people 'ave it off on tha' telly, why do y' crack a stiffy?"

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Sex Education at my school consisted of: One lesson in.... fucking hell, Religious Guidance I think it was, where they played a video and sat back while the rest of the kids sat there in a morbid kind of embarassment.

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As I understand it, aside from the cretinous puritan whingers and their ignorant dribblings, there's some basis for a legitimate complaint about these jabs. They're a massive misappropriation of resources. They're very unlikely to save more than a tiny, tiny minority of girls/women from a small number of possible cancers, and the cost to benefit ratio is very poor for an NHS operation. The same resources could be spent dealing more effectively with a number of more harmful illnesses.

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I was young and naive and thought that sex wasn't that important as long as we had each other. Utter bollocks.


You hear that, Kat? G-Unit needs his luvvin'!


*Predatory gleam in eyes*

I'm saying nooothing on that score as he may bind and gag me *please*

I lost my V's on my 16th birthday, I told the guy I was older aswell, Virginity wasn't a big issue for me really-it was something to get out of the way, no need to make sex hard science-just get on with it, but safely

I also agree with that jab

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You went two years without sex before getting divorced? Christ. I'd have called the lawyer after two months.

Sex education - we had sex education in third year junior school (so age 10). Do they not do that any more?


So did we, but it was periods and body hair, not shagging.


So they told you about periods without explaining what they were related to? How the fuck did they do that? "You girls will bleed once a month. This is because you are FILTHY EVIL WHORES. Questions?"


This sounds liek what we had. We had one lesson where we were split into boys and girls.

The boys were told to wash under their arms and around their penises.

Girls were told, via the stupidest video in the world, to wash under our arms and between the legs - it was a cartoon and there was a blue spiral over these areas - so if you see someone with a blue spiral over each armpit it means they have B.O.

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Also, then girls were told that one day they will have periods, and that you could use either a sanitary towel or a folded flannel/piece of towelling to manage your period.

We were not told WHY this would happen.

There was no sex education as part of this lesson, and, most importantly WE WERE FIFTEEN and most of my friends had reached full puberty by this point anyway, so the lesson was totally redundant.

Also, they never even suggested the option of tampons to anyone - sanitary towel or flannel - they said you couldn't go swimming whilst you were on your period and that it might hurt. That was it.

Actually, now I think about it I am pretty disgusted by the whole thing, they really let most of the kids down in that respect.

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And yet most of us have stumbled on through without either getting knocked up or knocking up somebody, so really education can't be the only factor in not being a promiscuous, stupid shitface.

Further investigation required.

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And yet most of us have stumbled on through without either getting knocked up or knocking up somebody, so really education can't be the only factor in not being a promiscuous, stupid shitface.

Further investigation required.

Is this next month's challenge? :)

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Although thinking about it.... what happens when you're with a psycho gf who lies about being on the pill and then tries to trap you into the relationship by getting deliberately pregnant? See now, you could forgive a person for that, right?

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Although thinking about it.... what happens when you're with a psycho gf who lies about being on the pill and then tries to trap you into the relationship by getting deliberately pregnant? See now, you could forgive a person for that, right?


I know someone who did this.

I'd say it was down to each individual to protect themselves or be secure in trusting that their partner is telling them the truth, but there's always the odd nutcase. Still, if you think that your partner might be a nutcase, don't sleep with them :P

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I know someone who did this.

Me too, although the poor chap didn't realise she was a lying fucking cunt at the time, and has since become bitter and angry as a result.

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I know someone who did this.

Me too, although the poor chap didn't realise she was a lying fucking cunt at the time, and has since become bitter and angry as a result.


The man in the instance I am talking about us a very religious type who went against his very strict religious 'no sex before marriage' rule. The girl was looking for a quick and failsafe way to a husband and baby, and got it.

They are still married to each other, but they are not very suited to each other, but his morals and her desperation to be a wife and mother bind them together pretty strongly.

I wonder if it will give one day or if they end up loving each other to the end after sticking it out?

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I wonder if it will give one day or if they end up loving each other to the end after sticking it out?


Sounds like it's going to end up with duct tape and bin bags, to be honest.

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All I learned from school was that sex education meant playing frisbee on a beach, naked, with your family.

Where the fuck did you go to school - Utah?

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Mimi wrote:
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I know someone who did this.

Me too, although the poor chap didn't realise she was a lying fucking cunt at the time, and has since become bitter and angry as a result.


The man in the instance I am talking about us a very religious type who went against his very strict religious 'no sex before marriage' rule. The girl was looking for a quick and failsafe way to a husband and baby, and got it.

They are still married to each other, but they are not very suited to each other, but his morals and her desperation to be a wife and mother bind them together pretty strongly.

I wonder if it will give one day or if they end up loving each other to the end after sticking it out?


Tenner says it'll end up with abuse.

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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