Dangerous objects

DBSnappa · **Posted:** Wed Aug 20, 2008 19:48

Grim... wrote:

Yeah, but without wanting to sound like an arse, kids never used to fucking stab each other to death.

They did. It's just getting more attention now.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

sinister agent wrote:

Dudley wrote:

Grim... wrote:

Yeah, but without wanting to sound like an arse, kids never used to fucking stab each other to death.

Isn't knife crime actually down?

Quite a lot of types of crime are on the way down, I read.

This wasn't the source, but I do enjoy playing around with this. Turns out Hillingdon is rougher and crimmier than Liverpool. Well, most of London is, to be fair. Also, this is a county full of pansies.

Wow - Nottingham is the second highest in the country for recorded offenses per head of population, second only to Westminster. That was Joans pissing in a bush, that was.

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:21

Sir Taxalot wrote:

I was on a training course last week near-ish to oxford (around Abingdon way). Very nice area, I really did like it - especially compared to the hustle of London.

We went to see the White Horse. You can see even less of it from the ground than you might expect. Colour me more disappointed than I'd expected to be.

I used to live in Abingdon.

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:51

Squirt wrote:

It's because there was so much stabbing that there is no one left to commit any more crimes.

"You can't shoot everyone, because you'd have nobody left to respect" - Fur Q.

Craster wrote:

kalmar wrote:

Craster wrote:

When I was on jury duty we ended up putting a guy in the can for having a craft knife in his pocket.

Was he a terrorist or a nutter?

Nope. We were instructed that his reason ('I was decorating earlier and I forgot it was in my pocket') was not to be accepted.

Whaaa? What was he in court for?

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:51

kalmar wrote:

Squirt wrote:

It's because there was so much stabbing that there is no one left to commit any more crimes.

"You can't shoot everyone, because you'd have nobody left to respect" - Fur Q.

Craster wrote:

kalmar wrote:

Craster wrote:

When I was on jury duty we ended up putting a guy in the can for having a craft knife in his pocket.

Was he a terrorist or a nutter?

Nope. We were instructed that his reason ('I was decorating earlier and I forgot it was in my pocket') was not to be accepted.

Whaaa? What was he in court for?

DWB

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:01

Decorating With Blood?

MaliA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:02

AceAceBaby wrote:

Decorating With Blood?

Driving whilst Black.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:22

Ah, of course.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

He was on a separate charge of attempted mugging (no implication that he used or attempted to use the knife). We found him not guilty on that one.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:13

So was he a scally, or some guy who got thrown in jail on a technicality? I mean, did he have shifty eyes and a low brow? Or are we going to throw in prison every tradesman who walks out of a house to their van while carrying a wallpaper scraper?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Duh - 'e was a black.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:27

They should bring back the death penalty. >:(

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

Craster wrote:

We were instructed that his reason ('I was decorating earlier and I forgot it was in my pocket') was not to be accepted.

Hang on, what? You were instructed to ignore the defence? Isn't that kind of one-sided?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

sinister agent wrote:

Craster wrote:

We were instructed that his reason ('I was decorating earlier and I forgot it was in my pocket') was not to be accepted.

Hang on, what? You were instructed to ignore the defence? Isn't that kind of one-sided?

We were instructed that the reason he gave didn't constitute reasonable grounds for carrying it, yes. Tell me about it.

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 14:48

Aren't the jury there to decide what they think is reasonable? :attitude:

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

AceAceBaby wrote:

Aren't the jury there to decide what they think is reasonable? :attitude:

Apparently we were there to decide, given that he did not have a good reason for carrying an offensive weapon, whether he was guilty of carrying an offensive weapon for no good reason. I did complain about this, to no effect.

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 14:52

So you found him guilty then, presumably?

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

kalmar wrote:

So you found him guilty then, presumably?

Yep! Shocker!

sinister agent · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 7046

But... but. :|

I... WHAT THE FUCK?

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 15:01

Seems more like they said "This black bastard needs teaching a lesson, so we're putting on a show trial and you'll do your bloody part, sunshine."

ElephantBanjoGnome · **Joined:** 22nd Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 8175

This is the problem with the Jury service, because if the court told me to ignore something I thought was highly relevant, I'd ignore the fucking court. If I didn't tell anyone, how would they know?

kalmar · **Posted:** Thu Aug 21, 2008 15:04

What happened to, you know, reasonable doubt and shit.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

kalmar wrote:

What happened to, you know, reasonable doubt and shit.

That's the thing - it's not a question of whether what he did was an offence or not, because it was, and categorically so. There is no reasonable doubt there. The only question is one of motivation.

Possession of an offensive weapon is an odd case, because it's one where presumption of innocense does not apply.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

myoptika wrote:

There's no such thing as 'centrifugal force'.

FINALLY remembered where I was semi-quoting the centrifugal force thing from, the ever-excellent xkcd:

AceAceBaby · **Posted:** Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:58

Hooray for xkcd. I do like that one.

Be Excellent To Each Other

Dangerous objects
(idle thoughts)

Who is online

Be Excellent To Each Other

Dangerous objects (idle thoughts)

Who is online

Dangerous objects
(idle thoughts)