What's road tax?

Hmmm right you can get a quote online, BMW want £510 per year for that M135i.

Are the cars that unreliable to warrant such a thing?

How much for three months?

Are the cars that unreliable to warrant such a thing?

They aren't going to be losing money on these warranties.

He'd be buying it from a dealer anyway. There is such a thing as being over-insured.

And do they do monthly warranties

The dealer should carry risk if it is selling cars that lunch themselves and they want the margin. The customer should not have to.

I totally agree Mali, but sadly independent secondhand car dealers can have a, ahem, less than optimal after sales response if thing go wrong, especially badly and expensively wrong.

I'm confused. Can you buy a BMW from an independent dealer and then go to BMW themselves and get a warranty? Or is it just you can extend it if it's already got it?

Provided the car meets the requirements, you can buy a warranty from BMW at any point during the car's life.

Certain levels of cover become unavailable at certain points (I think after 100,000 miles you can no longer get comprehensive cover, for example)

Buying a used BMW from a BMW dealer will mean it's an Approved Used car, and will come with a 12 month BMW AUC warranty on it (which, for all intents and purposes, is as good as the comprehensive one) - and it's often possible to extend that to 24 months (and sometimes beyond!) when haggling during purchase - I wangled an extra year on mine.

If you buy a used BMW from another dealer, then it will either come with a warranty supplied by the dealer (which will be a "pay now claim later" type) or it may come with the remaining term of a BMW warranty on it. The initial manufacturer warranty is transferrable from owner to owner until it expires, and the paid-for BMW warranties can also be transferred in some circumstances too.

Anyone else cleaned a variable vane turbo with Mr Muscle? Tempted to give it a go as it's straightforward enough to do from the EGR end but there are other voices on the internet saying it can fuck you over down the line (can munch the seals).

I really need to be not watching videos like this....

Harris reckons the M135i craps all over the Audi RS3. Better on the road, massively better on the track, and beats the RS3 in a drag race.

My brother has one. It's mental.

The new one so it's 322bhp.

Got a first offer from the mini dealership that lost my number plate- £1000.
Given that GT14LEX is for sale for twice that I’m going to hold out for more.

Watching the Harris video it was astonishing to see how much better sorted the BMW was on the track, where the Audi was just understeering like fuck the whole time.

GT1 is the name of a race series, or could be stylised as "GTI" so would suit a Golf GTI driver called Alex - that'll be why it's higher valued.

TD14LEX doesn't really have the same "cachet" I'm afraid, even for a Golf TDI driver. Most **14LEX plates are selling for £250.

Personally I'd take the £1,000.

That's the same as the one I'm (TOTALLY NOT) looking at, isn't it? In terms of engine power output, at least.

Watching the Harris video it was astonishing to see how much better sorted the BMW was on the track, where the Audi was just understeering like fuck the whole time.

Pistonheads are running one of these as a long termer, which they bought second hand and have spent money on the suspension, as apparently it isn’t “great” on the road when you’re pushing on.

The one thing I'm very mindful of here is I don't want another track car, as bonkers and brilliant as the Type-R was, it just wasn't an everyday car at all. I honestly prefer the Leon, most of the time and in most scenarios, to the Type-R. If I had a 'free choice' - (i.e. no cost implications, just choose the car I want) - keep the Leon or go back to the Type-R, I'd keep the Leon.

The thing I'm liking about the M135i which seems to be consistent across all the reviews, is that it's an entirely usable car as a daily driver, but has got some serious credentials when it comes to spirited driving.

As such I wouldn't be looking to modify anything about it that diminished its day-to-day usability. (Or indeed to modify anything TBH, it's not something I'm a fan of on a conceptual basis.)

The one thing I'm very mindful of here is I don't want another track car, as bonkers and brilliant as the Type-R was, it just wasn't an everyday car at all. I honestly prefer the Leon, most of the time and in most scenarios, to the Type-R. If I had a 'free choice' - (i.e. no cost implications, just choose the car I want) - keep the Leon or go back to the Type-R, I'd keep the Leon.

The thing I'm liking about the M135i which seems to be consistent across all the reviews, is that it's an entirely usable car as a daily driver, but has got some serious credentials when it comes to spirited driving.

As such I wouldn't be looking to modify anything about it that diminished its day-to-day usability. (Or indeed to modify anything TBH, it's not something I'm a fan of on a conceptual basis.)

I think the mods they made were all about everyday usability, insofar that they criticised the standard set up for having dampers which were too stiff, making the car a bit too skittish on the road when pressing on.
https://www.pistonheads.com/regulars/ph ... leet/36846

Surely the fact the BMW is a three door means you can discount it from your list. There's no shortage of cars to choose from, and it sounds like getting a 3 door would get your bollocks in seriously hot water from the get go.

Epace p240 dropped off for a couple of days testing then to be swapped for a disco sport for a couple of days. Yeah baby!

Warranties! Where's you sense of adventure Cavey?

Can't believe you're even considering RWD for commuting over the mountain, mate. You gonna get the bus every other week between December and March...?

I reckon I can charm my way around it.

I'm actually feeling slightly guilty about taking the piss out of Hearthly, so lets think of this as a challenge.

What cars can we come up with (for about £20k?) that will be sufficiently gadgety, reasonably brisk, look decent and have space for the family.
Maybe we can find something that will be a keeper.

That's pretty much the current Leon isn't it?