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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 17:18 
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I've listed to that song far too much and I'm 99.9% sure they never say that (even switching out the two thousand for one thousand). They say "who walks a thousand miles to fall down at your door", which is the closest I can get.

That’s the Proclaimers :DD

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Thu Dec 21, 2017 17:22 
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I've listed to that song far too much and I'm 99.9% sure they never say that (even switching out the two thousand for one thousand). They say "who walks a thousand miles to fall down at your door", which is the closest I can get.

That’s the Proclaimers :DD


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:23 
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Touchscreens in cars, there's a stupid idea.

It's like the car makers know they're shit, but they have to put them in because iPads, innit. Who doesn't like iPads? So what could be better than an iPad in a car?

My car has a fairly sizeable touchscreen in it, and Seat clearly understand what a horrible technology it is for a car, because all the icons are fucking huge and they've made everything as Duplo-style as possible so that you've got half a chance of altering a setting or changing something without crashing.

Similarly with Android Auto, they put 5 big icons along the bottom of the screen and everything else is ridiculously oversized by the standards of any NOT TOTALLY FUCKING STUPID application of touchscreen technology. It's like, what's the worst thing you could possibly do with a touchscreen? Offset it to the left of the driver so he absolutely can't operate the screen and watch the road properly at the same time.

I miss the MMI in the S4, it had a good sized screen but it wasn't touch, and I'd learned very well how to operate all the controls with my left hand whilst keeping my eyes on the road.

In fact I miss the S4 actually, I might get another one. The facelift model of mine can be had for reasonable money now, and retains a streamlined version of the same MMI system. (Under £20K for a nicely specced one with reasonable miles.)

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:29 
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 11:31 
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In fact I miss the S4 actually, I might get another one. The facelift model of mine can be had for reasonable money now, and retains a streamlined version of the same MMI system. (Under £20K for a nicely specced one with reasonable miles.)


0-new car in 33 days. Amazing.

Re touchscreen, I love mine, but then I don't really try and operate it while I'm driving. I have my steering-wheel controls for that. I can see if you had the muscle memory down on a non-touchscreen interface, that might make things easier while driving, but it would annoy me when I was setting the sat nav, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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I have to agree - touchscreens in cars are wank. You need buttons to feel.

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I have to agree - touchscreens in cars are wank. You need buttons to feel.


But having to input something on a QWERTY style keyboard with no touchscreen? The worst.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:25 
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My QWERTY-style keyboard that I'm typing on right now doesn't have a touchscreen ;)

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Keyboard and mouse is clearly the way forward for cars.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Right mouse to accelerate, or brake?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:30 
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Re touchscreen, I love mine, but then I don't really try and operate it while I'm driving. I have my steering-wheel controls for that. I can see if you had the muscle memory down on a non-touchscreen interface, that might make things easier while driving, but it would annoy me when I was setting the sat nav, I think.


I just wanted to tweak the bass and treble a bit this morning as Spotify outputs a bit differently to my trance from the SD cards. I found myself in a menu with a five-bar graphical equaliser (once I'd tapped on a couple of jumbo-sized icons to get there). Now each bar took up a fifth of the width of the screen, so Seat were clearly doing their best to make them as big as possible, but it's still a really crap way to do it. Then the car went over a bit of a bump and I adjusted 10KHz instead of 4KHz.

Then I stopped playing with it as it clearly wasn't safe. In the S4 I'd have had that shit nailed.

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Yeah, right for accelerate I reckon.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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I mean, don't adjust the bass and treble while driving, I guess?

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I mean, don't adjust the bass and treble while driving, I guess?

But I can in my Puma, because it has buttons.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:37 
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It also has fewer functions than a modern car. It would end up like the flight deck of a fucking space shuttle.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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It also has fewer functions than a modern car. It would end up like the flight deck of a fucking space shuttle.

Does it, though? A standard new Fiesta doesn't do that much more.

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I've not been in one but I'm going to guess that if there was a button, dial or switch for everything you can do on the touchscreen of a modern Fiesta it would look somewhat ridiculous.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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I'm trying to think of what you can only do on the touchscreen of our Focus, and I'm pretty sure it's only the SatNav.

Oh, and the radio, like changing sources or radio stations and stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:53 
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markg wrote:
Keyboard and mouse is clearly the way forward for cars.


:D

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Grim... wrote:
I'm trying to think of what you can only do on the touchscreen of our Focus, and I'm pretty sure it's only the SatNav.

Oh, and the radio, like changing sources or radio stations and stuff.


In America, the Taurus certainly had some of the climate stuff on the touch screen. Front heated seats/steering wheel was in there, which wasn't great when you got in the car in the cold, turned the heated seats on, then decided it's too hot when you're driving and have to exit out of Android Auto to turn the seats back off.


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What was the bike game on the Amiga that used the mouse?

Ah.. No second prize. That was good that was. Nice music too if I remember rightly.


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What was the bike game on the Amiga that used the mouse?

Ah.. No second prize. That was good that was. Nice music too if I remember rightly.


ah yes, a frighteningly fast, uncontrollable nightmare. Thrilling but impossible.


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I'm trying to think of what you can only do on the touchscreen of our Focus, and I'm pretty sure it's only the SatNav.

Oh, and the radio, like changing sources or radio stations and stuff.


In America, the Taurus certainly had some of the climate stuff on the touch screen. Front heated seats/steering wheel was in there, which wasn't great when you got in the car in the cold, turned the heated seats on, then decided it's too hot when you're driving and have to exit out of Android Auto to turn the seats back off.

The Focus has heating controls and all that on the touchscreen, but it also has dedicated buttons for it.

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I don't understand Android Auto

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I have a terrible car.

The Toyota Wish, as in "I wish I didn't have this car". Its practical but Jesus Christ.

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Holy shit, she's an uggo.

Do you have a driver?

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It's like a Prius got fat.

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I mean, don't adjust the bass and treble while driving, I guess?


Real audiophiles don't mess with treble and bass, they like to hear the recording just as it was recorded.

Proper hi-fi amplifiers only have an on/off button and a volume control. Amirite?

Having said that, I used to have a bass canon in the boot of me old Nissan Bluebird, but my son put that in not long after he passed his test and started to borrow my car. He didn't tell me he was putting it in, so the first time I saw it I thought he was installing heavy duty armaments.

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