Also, congrats. I do t know one car from anaother but if that's lovely and makes you happy, big yay
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| Author: | Mimi [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 17:27 ] |
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Also, congrats. I do t know one car from anaother but if that's lovely and makes you happy, big yay
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 18:09 ] |
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markg wrote: Excellent! Hope this one's a keeper. History suggests this is unlikely. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 18:10 ] |
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markg wrote: Excellent! Hope this one's a keeper. 12 months, at least...... |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 18:58 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: markg wrote: Excellent! Hope this one's a keeper. 12 months, at least...... Quoting for posterity |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 19:41 ] |
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You can buy an app for your phone for a couple of quid to show g forces. Seriously though, I think the short production life of this generation of Type R might lead to them being sought after in a few years. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 19:44 ] |
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Congrats mate, I'll be totally honest and say it ain't my bag at all but I seriously doubt you'll lose so much as half a wink's sleep in an entire night over that one.  Seriously, hope it's everything you want it to be, fill yer boots!! Cavey |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 19:51 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: Lonewolves wrote: 'Tis easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. There was a chap at work who proudly worked on that principle for years until one day his wife told him she didn't love him anymore, was moving out, and would be getting a divorce. So I think one has to be careful with that approach. I bought the GT4 because the sales guy called my bluff and my planet-sized ego won't let me lose face, so £90k later etc. (not that I regret it for one millisecond, but I hadn't even consulted *myself* over this near six figure sum ludicrous racing car purchase, let alone my long suffering spouse). Anyway, I put the phone down, having sealed the deal, with a mixture of elation and incredulous realisation of the "what the fuck have I just done" variety... I rang Mrs C straight away, and, not even knowing what to say, just blurted out "b-babe, I've done a bad thing" About 3 seconds of interminable silence, followed by "you bought a fucking car, haven't you". Gaz would have been so proud. Got home that night to two glasses of champagne and a hug. My word, they broke the mould with that one. 
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:05 ] |
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I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:23 ] |
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GazChap wrote: I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. What flavour? |
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| Author: | Kern [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:26 ] |
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I bet he's gone retro and got one of those internal combustion engine models, the big hipster. |
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| Author: | Jem [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:29 ] |
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GazChap wrote: I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. Obviously the only thing I was astonished about was how long it took you. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:30 ] |
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| Spill the beans Gaz |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:42 ] |
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 BMW 530d GT Luxury. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:43 ] |
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Nice! I like it.
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 20:45 ] |
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Only thing I'm not keen on is the black interior, but the options list was otherwise my perfect example of one so I was prepared to overlook it. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 22:23 ] |
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GazChap wrote: I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. Hah! I was right. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Mon Aug 07, 2017 22:27 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: GazChap wrote: I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. Hah! I was right. Amazing.
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| Author: | TheVision [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:41 ] |
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Yay Hearthly! |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 9:43 ] |
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Have you sold it yet Hearthly? |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 10:07 ] |
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I'm very very tempted to chop in my Type R for an immaculate black Subaru Impreza which is for sale up the road from me. I should probably wait to see if I get a job miles away first though, as the fuel bill would kill me. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:08 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: I'm very very tempted to chop in my Type R for an immaculate black Subaru Impreza which is for sale up the road from me. I should probably wait to see if I get a job miles away first though, as the fuel bill would kill me. WRX? STi? More details needed. Personally I'd keep the Type-R, I've never been keen on Imprezas (or Evos for that matter) - rally cars should look sporty, goddamnit. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:19 ] |
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Use the money to spruce up your Type-R instead. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:46 ] |
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There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:04 ] |
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You can't go wrong with a Mercedes. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:10 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: You can't go wrong with a Mercedes. It doesn't have any Parktronic nonsense, luckily. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:11 ] |
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Hearthly wrote: You can't go wrong with a Mercedes. Tell that to Mark Webber. 
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:26 ] |
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He shouldn't be doing that. There is something wrong. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:32 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. Don't buy that. You'll look like the chairman of a crown green bowling club. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:44 ] |
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markg wrote: Lonewolves wrote: There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. Don't buy that. You'll look like the chairman of a crown green bowling club. That's the look I'm aiming for! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:45 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: markg wrote: Lonewolves wrote: There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. Don't buy that. You'll look like the chairman of a crown green bowling club. That's the look I'm aiming for! Not Malicool. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:46 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: markg wrote: Lonewolves wrote: There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. Don't buy that. You'll look like the chairman of a crown green bowling club. That's the look I'm aiming for! Not Malicool. Sold! Not literally. I haven't seen it yet. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:48 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: markg wrote: Lonewolves wrote: There is no money so I've decided against it anyway. Going to have a look at a 2002 Mercedes CLK 320 Avantgarde instead. Only 2 miles away so worth a look. Don't buy that. You'll look like the chairman of a crown green bowling club. That's the look I'm aiming for! Not Malicool. Sold! I don't know if I am to be offended or not |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 16:30 ] |
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Trying to decide whether to get this new BMW remapped. DMS Automotive are the go-to guys for this kinda thing, and their remap takes it from 258bhp to 331, and 418lb/ft to 482... |
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| Author: | Findus Fop [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 16:38 ] |
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Jem wrote: GazChap wrote: I too, have just bought a car. To Jem's eternal astonishment. Obviously the only thing I was astonished about was how long it took you. You must be looking forward to your new 12.9 inch iPad Pro and one of those ace smart keyboard things and a swizzy iPad pen. Very kind of Gazchap to do that. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 16:57 ] |
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Findus Fop wrote: You must be looking forward to your new 12.9 inch iPad Pro and one of those ace smart keyboard things and a swizzy iPad pen. Very kind of Gazchap to do that. Jem wouldn't be seen dead with an iPad. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 17:16 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Trying to decide whether to get this new BMW remapped. DMS Automotive are the go-to guys for this kinda thing, and their remap takes it from 258bhp to 331, and 418lb/ft to 482... Yes. |
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| Author: | BikNorton [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:24 ] |
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Yes. |
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| Author: | krazywookie [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:26 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: GazChap wrote: Trying to decide whether to get this new BMW remapped. DMS Automotive are the go-to guys for this kinda thing, and their remap takes it from 258bhp to 331, and 418lb/ft to 482... Yes. Jesus that's a significant increase! |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:32 ] |
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krazywookie wrote: Zardoz wrote: GazChap wrote: Trying to decide whether to get this new BMW remapped. DMS Automotive are the go-to guys for this kinda thing, and their remap takes it from 258bhp to 331, and 418lb/ft to 482... Yes. Jesus that's a significant increase! Percentage wise, it is the same uplift in power as changing the throttle body in the EXCITING ROVER |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:33 ] |
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331bhp and all that torque makes for a serious Q-car! I assume there's no danger of blowing up the gearbox or whatevs? |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:37 ] |
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I guess you just need to make sure that the rest of the car is suited to that kind of increase in power. Like on the S4 it's fairly trivial to get them up over 410bhp (from the standard of 328bhp), but for example the brakes are already 'borderline' for the power and speed of the car (as I found out with some pretty substantial brake fade during some 'spirited' runs over TT), so if you take it up over 410bhp you're conjuring up a fairly dubious combination of too much forward grunt with not enough stopping power. And that's before you consider the extra stress and strain on all the various other bits that make up the drivetrain and gearbox and all that shizzle - which were designed to be a good fit for how the car left the factory. (The S4 is noted for eating its mechatronic system, which is the clever bit that controls the DSG, when you crank too much power through it.) Personally I'm an advocate of leaving cars at stock, unless you're not fussed about hassle and/or bills as a result. If you want a car with 331bhp, why not just buy a car with 331bhp? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:39 ] |
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Fairly sure the Rover can take it. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:39 ] |
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Should it matter? Surely a set of brakes takes X distance to stop a car going at 40mph, regardless of how many bhp got it there? Or is the assumption that more bhp means you're just going to be going faster. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:45 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Fairly sure the Rover can take it. 
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| Author: | Cavey [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:51 ] |
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Cras wrote: Should it matter? Surely a set of brakes takes X distance to stop a car going at 40mph, regardless of how many bhp got it there? Or is the assumption that more bhp means you're just going to be going faster. Well, with much more power, you're inevitably going to be presenting your brakes with faster rates of acceleration than otherwise would be the case, when they're applied (and therefore more likely to be applied more sharply than they would've hitherto been, so it's a bit of a double whammy, really). It's not about static, steady speeds motorway-style; the reality is a far more dynamic accelerative/decelerative picture. Physics innit. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 18:57 ] |
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Momentum isn't a function of time. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 19:01 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Momentum isn't a function of time. If I have one 1500kg body travelling at a steady speed of 70mph, and another 1500kg body that's accelerating very rapidly but whose instantaneous speed was also 70mph at the precise moment brakes were applied, which do you think will require the greater braking force? |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 19:04 ] |
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I get in trouble doing this, but assuming the acceleration is no longer being applied, surely the answer is that they require identical braking force? |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 19:04 ] |
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Cavey wrote: MaliA wrote: Momentum isn't a function of time. If I have one 1500kg body travelling at a steady speed of 70mph, and another 1500kg body that's accelerating very rapidly but whose instantaneous speed was also 70mph at the precise moment brakes were applied, which do you think will require the greater braking force? John McDonnell |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Tue Aug 08, 2017 19:08 ] |
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Cras wrote: I get in trouble doing this, but assuming the acceleration is no longer being applied, surely the answer is that they require identical braking force? Okay, consider a rifle bullet that weighs 10g that's been fired (the force is removed), say one hundreth of a second after it's been fired. It's travelling, say, at only 5mph, but it's accelerating like fuck. Now, compare this to a 10g weight that's travelling at 5mph steady speed. If you put your hand infront of the rifle bullet to stop it, it'll blast right through skin, bone, steel sheet - it requires shitloads of force. The steady speed 10g weight harmlessly bounces off. F=ma See me after class, C- (I'm going home now) |
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