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Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:52 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>


Yes, because although most people break the limit their speeds are still guided by the number on a stick - lots of people will do up to 80 on a motorway for example as it's "safe" from prosecution and crashing.

Remove the limits entirely and you have much more of a free for all.


Yet the unrestricted sections of the Autobahn have the same fatality levels as the restricted areas, and those levels are less than the majority of countries who do have limits and release their figures.


That's unrestricted speeds on roads designed with that in mind.
Now replace that with your average high street or country road and see what happens :)


But i'm not arguing for no speed limits on high streets or country roads. I was talking about the motorway speed limit, sorry if that wasn't clear.
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 15:43 ]
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A few years back, I made a random post in a random forum on Pistonheads, idly wondering what had happened to my old MGB I owned from 1992 to 2001. I posted the reg number on the off chance someone would know.
I've had an email today from the current owner, who found my post, and who has restored it to concours condition. He is going to send me over a photo :)

It's weirdly satisfying to know she is still out there and in much better condition than I ever restored her too!
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 16:34 ]
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and here she is! a bit better condition than when I owned her...

Image
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 17:40 ]
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Bloody hell.

Money pit.
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 17:41 ]
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Aye, must have cost a fortune!
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 21:34 ]
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Whoops! It appears my MOT is out of date. Only by 2 weeks, not 5 months though, i'm not a total idiot ;)
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:16 ]
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It passed with no advisories.

I know you were all worried.
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:14 ]
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Interestingly (well, to me anyway), I have been playing around with figures regarding buying a cheap car to use as a station car for when I move.

Doing the trip in the subaru

Petrol : 103.9
mpg : 21
miles per day : 12

£2.70 per trip.

250ish working days a year, minus holidays, assuming I can work from home 1 day a week = 180 trips.

180*2.7 = £498 a year in petrol

Now, what about if I buy a £500 Micra that does at best 45mpg?
That works out at : £1.26 a trip. A significant saving! Or is it?

180*1.26 = £227 a year in petrol

Saves me £271 a year in fuel costs, but add on the extra cost to tax (£125 a year) plus insurance, plus MOT, plus running costs, plus cost to buy etc...

This seems to indicate that I should carry on using the Subaru (or replace it with and even more stupid car with a lower mpg, as it makes fuck all difference really!)
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:25 ]
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Yeah, you won't save money running a second car for that low a mileage.
Not even the finest of man-maths can make that work for you, and you should only use man-maths to justify good stuff not Micras anyway.
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:43 ]
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It makes even less sense when you consider that i'm planning to drive in the winter and cycle/pedelec in the summer.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:47 ]
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You could possibly make the sums work on a 50cc scooter that does 100mpg and £15 a year tax....
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:00 ]
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Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:30 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
You could possibly make the sums work on a 50cc scooter that does 100mpg and £15 a year tax....


I did think about that, but the combination of the roads being 60mph and wanting to still drive in the winter I imagine, make that a nonstarter.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:52 ]
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Oh yeah, it would be miserable in winter. I wasn't seriously advocating it. The most economical vehicle would be an old cg125 or similar that won't depreciate at all, and will still return above 100mpg but it's no fun at all when the weather is poor.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:48 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.


I liked the Puma that Lady T had, it was fun - a little rascal. We were very sad to see our cars go when we moved away.
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:53 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.


I liked the Puma that Lady T had, it was fun - a little rascal. We were very sad to see our cars go when we moved away.


This is the first of 5 pumas...
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:57 ]
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Are you going to do a real life BETEO race series?
Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 0:01 ]
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We actually are, at the nurburgring.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 0:27 ]
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That sounds pretty neat. Hope the standard of driving has improved since I last played Forza with you lot.

(I was one of the worst, admittedly)
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:35 ]
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http://broadtrip.co.uk
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:39 ]
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Grim... wrote:
http://broadtrip.co.uk

Man, I'd love to do that.
Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:12 ]
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What's stopping you?
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:16 ]
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He needs a friend.
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:22 ]
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Grim... wrote:
He needs a friend.

:this:

Plus money, car, time etc.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:23 ]
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Plenty of time to get a car.
Author:  GazChap [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:01 ]
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Tempting. If I can flog the MX5 before then and get a Puma, and if I can get the three days off work, and if girls are allowed and Jem can also get the time off work... :P
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:05 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Tempting. If I can flog the MX5 before then and get a Puma, and if I can get the three days off work, and if girls are allowed and Jem can also get the time off work... :P


Or you could take DavPaz :)
Author:  Jem [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 12:48 ]
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MaliA wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Tempting. If I can flog the MX5 before then and get a Puma, and if I can get the three days off work, and if girls are allowed and Jem can also get the time off work... :P


Or you could take DavPaz :)


Oi!
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 13:08 ]
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It's ok, my massive bonce wouldn't fit in a Ford Puma anyway.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:06 ]
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Thanks to the kindly Trooper giving me a lift, I have my steed!

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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:13 ]
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That looks nice and tidy. For £500 I think you can be pleased it's not on fire.

This weekend we're off car shopping for my GF. I think she should buy a nice MX5, but I suspect a Citigo beckons.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:27 ]
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53,000 miles!

£550, though. The extra £50 clearly goes a long way.
Author:  GazChap [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:44 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
That looks nice and tidy. For £500 I think you can be pleased it's not on fire.

This weekend we're off car shopping for my GF. I think she should buy a nice MX5, but I suspect a Citigo beckons.

She could buy my MX5! ;)
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 10:59 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
That looks nice and tidy. For £500 I think you can be pleased it's not on fire.

This weekend we're off car shopping for my GF. I think she should buy a nice MX5, but I suspect a Citigo beckons.

She could buy my MX5! ;)


Indeed, though for her every day car she wouldn't contemplate buying anything older than her Punto and with higher mileage.

If my Garage wasn't full of bikes, a scooter and an arcade machine I'd have it for myself as a weekend car, but alas it *is* full and I'm not moving house.
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:02 ]
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I'd buy it, but latest house developments may mean zero monies after the move, if the move happens!
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:19 ]
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I would get it but I would need to shift the ka on and check insurance prices. :(

Nice Puma, grim.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Feb 13, 2015 13:04 ]
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I've been buying bits all morning. It's like real-life Forza!
Author:  krazywookie [ Sat Feb 14, 2015 20:45 ]
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*impact driver noise (brrvvvv)* *car instantly drops 6 inches*

nice looking thing, 1.7 variable valve? (1.7? Am I making that up?)

incidentally if people are looking for offensive sideways machines with poppy-up lights, my mr2 would be an excellent place to start...
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 19:13 ]
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1.7 Zetec. It's pretty ace, to be honest. The gearbox in those things is sublime.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Feb 15, 2015 19:59 ]
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I got a 1.7 Ford Puma as a hire car back in, ooohhhh, early 2000 I'd say, down in Milton Keynes. I was there on a training course for Novell Zen Works. We flew into an airport some distance away (London Luton? Was that a thing back then?), so there was a fair haul on the motorway there, and then a few nights in Milton Keynes, and then back to the airport again.

Anyway, point being, it was a fantastic little car, and of course Milton Keynes was a great place to have a spin in it with it being such a 'roadey' sort of place. (Lots of roundabouts to zoom around!)

I remember it as being really peppy to drive, great handling, not insanely quick but it 'felt' very quick if that makes sense, just a joyful little car to chuck around the place.
Author:  Trooper [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 15:45 ]
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I have a Puma! It's very yellow...

£370, can't complain.
Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 16:24 ]
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Blimey. What's wrong with it?
Author:  MaliA [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 16:25 ]
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I like that.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 16:26 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Blimey. What's wrong with it?



The colour
Author:  Trooper [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 16:28 ]
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Overheating occasionally, apparently. Plus the usual rusty wheelarches.
Should just need a new thermostat...
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 16:59 ]
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That won't take long to fix then. Excellent.
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 17:48 ]
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Puma fight!
Author:  Trooper [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 18:01 ]
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I have a theory that it just has airlocks in the system, so doesn't actually need any parts to fix it. Reading up, Puma's are notoriously difficult to bleed the coolant and not get airlocks, and it recently (2 weeks ago) went to a back street garage to have the "coolant switch" replaced, according to the receipt. What's the betting they just didn't know how to bleed it properly...
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 18:05 ]
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Ooh, pretty good, I reckon.
Author:  TheVision [ Sat Feb 21, 2015 22:32 ]
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So why are Puma's so special? Have I missed something?

You know what I'm like for collecting things. Don't get me started!
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