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Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 13:39 ]
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Oh yeah, I'd have left it there too. Just sayin'.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 15:30 ]
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I'll remember for the next time the MOT is overdue by 5 months. ;)

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 19:35 ]
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Hmm. New car has a flat. Fairly sure I wasn't handed locking wheel nut keys when it was delivered (whole event was a bit of a blur) and none in glove box as I'd hoped (first time I've opened glove box). Odds on them being in with the jack and spare?

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 19:38 ]
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Pretty good I reckon, it's where my last two have been.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 22:05 ]
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Once you've found it replace the locking wheel nuts with normal ones. Pain the arse those things.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Jan 13, 2015 22:22 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Once you've found it replace the locking wheel nuts with normal ones. Pain the arse those things.

Quite. Hadn't crossed my mind until tonight when wife booked the wheel man in. Still, he's here tomorrow so she can deal with the issue while I'm at work. Have to have them back on when the lease is up though.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Jan 14, 2015 15:47 ]
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In the boot! No-one wins anything.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 22:28 ]
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Petrol at the station in my town: $1.21 (not too bad)

Petrol in the city suburbs, let's say 70 miles away: $1.01

Author:  GazChap [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 14:56 ]
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I guess now's not the time to be mentioning this Troops, but if you want this MX-5 off me you can have it for £1200? ;)

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 15:37 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I guess now's not the time to be mentioning this Troops, but if you want this MX-5 off me you can have it for £1200? ;)


:D Poor timing indeed! If you still have it when i'm in a new house with a garage space, I'll take it ;)

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 15:46 ]
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If only I had room to store an MX5 until I'm ready to use one. :(

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 15:56 ]
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Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I guess now's not the time to be mentioning this Troops, but if you want this MX-5 off me you can have it for £1200? ;)


:D Poor timing indeed! If you still have it when i'm in a new house with a garage space, I'll take it ;)

Don't forget you're buying a Ford Puma, too :)

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 16:28 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I guess now's not the time to be mentioning this Troops, but if you want this MX-5 off me you can have it for £1200? ;)


:D Poor timing indeed! If you still have it when i'm in a new house with a garage space, I'll take it ;)

Don't forget you're buying a Ford Puma, too :)


There is a nice little spot at Toad manor just waiting for it. He is down south anyway, so it makes sense for it to be closer to the channel tunnel...

When are you buying yours anyway? We are probably going to make a serious effort at looking around the end of March.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 16:31 ]
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We're going to start looking next month, I think. Found a nice one last week, but a) it was green, and b) it's January, so we've got fuck-all money.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 16:41 ]
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Aye, plus the wasted insurance, tax, sorn hassle, etc...
If a perfect one that is close by turns up we'll jump on it, but not making a proper look yet.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 19, 2015 16:45 ]
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Yeah, if we were being sensible we'd get one in March, but I fear the call of the workshop for some serious "rude boy modz" will be too much to resist :)

We're toying with getting it painted Lambo orange, too!

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:12 ]
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Bugger.

http://www.driving.co.uk/news/drivers-w ... y-stealth/

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:17 ]
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Bugger.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:22 ]
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The M25 Clacket Lane section is by my house and accordingly the stretch of motorway that I use most frequently. It is also the clearest stretch of M25 on a typical journey in my experience (apart from when they were installing the cameras). Suffice to say I'm thankful for having a speed limiter on my car as round there it is easy to hit 90 on a regular basis without it feeling fast.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 12:30 ]
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BikNorton wrote:


That article is a little bit disingenuous (I know, major surprise that). It doesn't actually state that the 500 people in that article got their tickets from speeding when there was no variable or reduced restriction in place, it just says they got tickets, and then jumps to supposition about the future, without linking the two.

edit: Oh wait, yes it does further down. Ignore me.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:03 ]
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Looking around, there doesn't appear to be any details on what the threshold for those cameras actually is? The suspicion is that is it above 90mph at the moment, as otherwise there would be tens of thousands of tickets, and not just 500.

Also, these new cameras are multidirectional radar based, looks like it's time to get into the radar detector market! We haven't seen much of them for ages, but sales will certainly increase now.

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:09 ]
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Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)

Author:  Kern [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:11 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


It's a form of go-slow protest.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:12 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:18 ]
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Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>


Yes, because although most people break the limit their speeds are still guided by the number on a stick - lots of people will do up to 80 on a motorway for example as it's "safe" from prosecution and crashing.

Remove the limits entirely and you have much more of a free for all.

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:18 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis

Citation needed ;)

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:25 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>


Yes, because although most people break the limit their speeds are still guided by the number on a stick - lots of people will do up to 80 on a motorway for example as it's "safe" from prosecution and crashing.

Remove the limits entirely and you have much more of a free for all.


Yet the unrestricted sections of the Autobahn have the same fatality levels as the restricted areas, and those levels are less than the majority of countries who do have limits and release their figures.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:29 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis

Citation needed ;)


It was mentioned in a Jack Reacher book, when he went to England, and ended up in Norfolk. "80 mph seemed to be the minimum speed the cars were doing" or something like that.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:31 ]
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MaliA wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis

Citation needed ;)


It was mentioned in a Jack Reacher book, when he went to England, and ended up in Norfolk. "80 mph seemed to be the minimum speed the cars were doing" or something like that.

It was indeed.

And it's fairly true - if you drive at 70mph you're going to get overtaken a lot. Make sure you do it in the slow lane, too. Idiots.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:51 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>


Yes, because although most people break the limit their speeds are still guided by the number on a stick - lots of people will do up to 80 on a motorway for example as it's "safe" from prosecution and crashing.

Remove the limits entirely and you have much more of a free for all.


Yet the unrestricted sections of the Autobahn have the same fatality levels as the restricted areas, and those levels are less than the majority of countries who do have limits and release their figures.


That's unrestricted speeds on roads designed with that in mind.
Now replace that with your average high street or country road and see what happens :)

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jan 20, 2015 13:52 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
GazChap wrote:
Or, and I realise that this is particularly amusing coming from me, people could just not break the speed limit ;)


Is a law that 99% of the populace break on a daily basis with no consequence, really a required law?

<sits back>


Yes, because although most people break the limit their speeds are still guided by the number on a stick - lots of people will do up to 80 on a motorway for example as it's "safe" from prosecution and crashing.

Remove the limits entirely and you have much more of a free for all.


Yet the unrestricted sections of the Autobahn have the same fatality levels as the restricted areas, and those levels are less than the majority of countries who do have limits and release their figures.


That's unrestricted speeds on roads designed with that in mind.
Now replace that with your average high street or country road and see what happens :)


But i'm not arguing for no speed limits on high streets or country roads. I was talking about the motorway speed limit, sorry if that wasn't clear.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 15:43 ]
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A few years back, I made a random post in a random forum on Pistonheads, idly wondering what had happened to my old MGB I owned from 1992 to 2001. I posted the reg number on the off chance someone would know.
I've had an email today from the current owner, who found my post, and who has restored it to concours condition. He is going to send me over a photo :)

It's weirdly satisfying to know she is still out there and in much better condition than I ever restored her too!

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 16:34 ]
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and here she is! a bit better condition than when I owned her...

Image

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 17:40 ]
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Bloody hell.

Money pit.

Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 30, 2015 17:41 ]
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Aye, must have cost a fortune!

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 05, 2015 21:34 ]
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Whoops! It appears my MOT is out of date. Only by 2 weeks, not 5 months though, i'm not a total idiot ;)

Author:  Trooper [ Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:16 ]
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It passed with no advisories.

I know you were all worried.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:14 ]
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Interestingly (well, to me anyway), I have been playing around with figures regarding buying a cheap car to use as a station car for when I move.

Doing the trip in the subaru

Petrol : 103.9
mpg : 21
miles per day : 12

£2.70 per trip.

250ish working days a year, minus holidays, assuming I can work from home 1 day a week = 180 trips.

180*2.7 = £498 a year in petrol

Now, what about if I buy a £500 Micra that does at best 45mpg?
That works out at : £1.26 a trip. A significant saving! Or is it?

180*1.26 = £227 a year in petrol

Saves me £271 a year in fuel costs, but add on the extra cost to tax (£125 a year) plus insurance, plus MOT, plus running costs, plus cost to buy etc...

This seems to indicate that I should carry on using the Subaru (or replace it with and even more stupid car with a lower mpg, as it makes fuck all difference really!)

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:25 ]
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Yeah, you won't save money running a second car for that low a mileage.
Not even the finest of man-maths can make that work for you, and you should only use man-maths to justify good stuff not Micras anyway.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:43 ]
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It makes even less sense when you consider that i'm planning to drive in the winter and cycle/pedelec in the summer.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 17:47 ]
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You could possibly make the sums work on a 50cc scooter that does 100mpg and £15 a year tax....

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:00 ]
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Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:30 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
You could possibly make the sums work on a 50cc scooter that does 100mpg and £15 a year tax....


I did think about that, but the combination of the roads being 60mph and wanting to still drive in the winter I imagine, make that a nonstarter.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 18:52 ]
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Oh yeah, it would be miserable in winter. I wasn't seriously advocating it. The most economical vehicle would be an old cg125 or similar that won't depreciate at all, and will still return above 100mpg but it's no fun at all when the weather is poor.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:48 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.


I liked the Puma that Lady T had, it was fun - a little rascal. We were very sad to see our cars go when we moved away.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:53 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Oh, I've bought a Ford Puma!

Trooper is helping me to collect it on Thursday. I've not seen it yet, so hopefully it's not a complete dog.


I liked the Puma that Lady T had, it was fun - a little rascal. We were very sad to see our cars go when we moved away.


This is the first of 5 pumas...

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Feb 09, 2015 23:57 ]
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Are you going to do a real life BETEO race series?

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 0:01 ]
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We actually are, at the nurburgring.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 0:27 ]
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That sounds pretty neat. Hope the standard of driving has improved since I last played Forza with you lot.

(I was one of the worst, admittedly)

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:35 ]
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http://broadtrip.co.uk

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