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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 21:45 ]
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This might be more likely then.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

Or

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... 2/usedcars
Author:  Joans [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 22:05 ]
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Yeah, better, I'll have a look at those in a bit more detail. Thanks.
For comparisons sake, I'm currently driving a 207, which, on paper, gets 64mpg and does 0-60 in 12.5 (I think). My (possibly flawed) theory, is that regardless of what I actually get (about 45, I think), something that gets more than 64mpg on paper, will do more than whatever it is I actually get, and I can get some vague ideas of how much it's going to cost me to run. Something like a Fiesta 1.6 econetic gets 85mpg on paper, which I think could save me around £500 a year in fuel, which I obviously find quite an attractive prospect. Sadly, they seem to be a fairly rare breed (at least locally), hence my horizon expanding exercise.
Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 22:27 ]
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I like my golf. A mk6 tdi is in your budget.
Author:  sdg [ Wed Oct 01, 2014 22:36 ]
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I do about the same miles as you and I drive a 1.8 petrol civic, getting average 45mpg. Think my next car will be a diesel though, maybe a focus or a nice high end estate like a bmw or a Volvo.
Author:  itsallwater [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 7:11 ]
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What I find odd is that can get around 45 MPG from my 1.6 2001 shitty astra SXI. Yet my golf 2011 1.4 TSI get around the same despite being told it should shit all over it. I find the mpg a difficult thing to gauge until driven. The only difference is that the golf is mostly used as a day to day car and the astra for longer journeys, both petrol. Which might account for it but even on the longer runs I notice the golf struggles to keep a high mpg... I did once get close to 55 mpg but literally did 10 miles under the speed limit all the way to manchester. Which is a little boring.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:17 ]
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Smaller cars get better miles than their bigger brethren, so you might want to think about a Polo rather than a Golf.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:28 ]
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Or you buy this Jag for a grand, get 20MPG and then you've got £9k left to spend on petrol, which (if my post-quiz brain is working) will get you over 30,000 miles.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 9:42 ]
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Joans wrote:
Yeah, better, I'll have a look at those in a bit more detail. Thanks.
For comparisons sake, I'm currently driving a 207, which, on paper, gets 64mpg and does 0-60 in 12.5 (I think). My (possibly flawed) theory, is that regardless of what I actually get (about 45, I think), something that gets more than 64mpg on paper, will do more than whatever it is I actually get, and I can get some vague ideas of how much it's going to cost me to run. Something like a Fiesta 1.6 econetic gets 85mpg on paper, which I think could save me around £500 a year in fuel, which I obviously find quite an attractive prospect. Sadly, they seem to be a fairly rare breed (at least locally), hence my horizon expanding exercise.


The 1.6 TDI engine in those will return north of 60mpg on a longer run and are in the £30 tax band - plenty of people on Briskoda.net have the Fabia and are pleased with it getting a genuine 50-something MPG all round The Ibiza is mechanically the same and probably the better looking car. Both of those are top trim level examples, so you could sacrifice gadgets for a newer car, and if you want a bit more space without stepping up a class there's an estate version of each.
Author:  Joans [ Thu Oct 02, 2014 11:10 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Or you buy this Jag for a grand, get 20MPG and then you've got £9k left to spend on petrol, which (if my post-quiz brain is working) will get you over 30,000 miles.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p


This would be a sound plan if I was looking to upgrade again in around 18 months time.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Oct 03, 2014 23:32 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Sympathies. The Ka has been overheating. Initial look see suggests blocked pipes or fucked water pump. Will try and find time to change the pump in the week. Or take bIg car to work.


Haynes manual ordered yesterday, it arrived today. Seems it could be as simple as a temp sensor doohickey. A ha ha ha. Simple.


Woop! Lolz to follow.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 16:51 ]
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CAR GET! IPOD GET!

Car is fab, exactly what I was hoping for, a really tight point-and-squirt hot hatch BUT perfectly tame and easy to get along with as a family car. Keep it under 4000rpm and nothing much really happens, did 60 miles on family duties today and it was a very easy car to get along with, cabin is a nice civilised place to be, no problems at all. (There was a slight raising of an eyebrow when Mrs Hearthly clocked that it was a three door and she'd have to climb in the back, but hey ho.)

I reset the computer when I got it and average MPG for the first 100 miles is 36.7mpg, not too shabby at all.

Have only opened it out a few times but it's classic VTEC, up to 4500rpm it's rather tame, 4500-6500rpm things get a lot livelier and then 6500rpm-8500rpm it goes absolutely fucking bananas. (It's had a replacement exhaust put on from the cat backwards, so it sounds pretty sweet too.)

The iPod arrived this morning (as very generously donated by GazChap, and very much appreciated it is too) and thus followed my first usage of iTunes on a PC for many years. OH MY GOD WHY IS ITUNES SO HORRIBLE? All I wanted to do was copy a few folders of trance to the iPod from the NAS, but of course iTunes doesn't work like that.

After much tussling and frustration with how iTunes sits between my music collection and the iPod, I managed to copy a load of trance on there and divined a method to create a playlist for it. (I've got hundreds of mp3s 60-70 minutes long, recorded straight off trance.fm and literally just called 001.mp3, 002.mp3, 003.mp3 and so on, and iTunes is hassling me about artists and genres and wanting to fucking scan everything to look for stuff, fucking thing.)

Thanks to a Civic Wiki site I learned that the playlists need to be called Honda1xxxyyyzzz, Honda2xxxyyyzzz etc and then the iPod kit in the Civic sees the iPod as a nine disc CD changer and you can control it from the head unit/steering wheel, with 'discs' 1-7 being the first seven playlists on there, 8 being a random play of everything on the iPod, and 9 being whatever it's playing when you plug it in.

I just did one massive playlist for all the trance I'd copied to the iPod, disconnected it from iTunes, plugged it into the connector in the Civic, a Honda logo popped up on the iPod's screen and it worked perfectly. The connector also charges the iPod so no need to worry about that, and it resumes exactly where it left off when you turned the ignition off when you next turn the ignition on. (The head unit also controls the iPod's power, so I don't have to touch the iPod at all, it simply sits in its little hidden cubbyhole.)

So after the initial frustration with iTunes and me wishing I just still had a USB connector like in the Accord, it's turned out to be absolutely fine, and I really do doff my cap to GazChap for being so kind as to post the iPod out to me for just the cost of postage. (Having had a look on eBay they're not exactly worthless!)

So yeah, all seems pretty cool :)

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Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 18:33 ]
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Sounds great!
Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 18:37 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Sympathies. The Ka has been overheating. Initial look see suggests blocked pipes or fucked water pump. Will try and find time to change the pump in the week. Or take bIg car to work.


Haynes manual ordered yesterday, it arrived today. Seems it could be as simple as a temp sensor doohickey. A ha ha ha. Simple.


Woop! Lolz to follow.


Changed it. Getting spring clips off then looking for them took longer than anything else. Here's the hole where the air box is, it sits beneath it.
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Oct 04, 2014 22:26 ]
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Top work, Mali.
Author:  MaliA [ Sun Oct 05, 2014 10:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Top work, Mali.


Ta. I totally didn't have to take the air box off again when I remembered the air intake was still blocked half a turn away from starting the engine, either.
Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Oct 09, 2014 21:22 ]
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http://www.teslamotors.com/en_GB/models

Saw one of these on site yesterday. It looks nice close up.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:53 ]
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So after a car, similar reqt's to Joans. Was just looking at the Seat website, and the mpg is quoted at 5.1mpg for a 1.2 Seat Ibiza. This seems a little low?

Also, why is the Seat website so shit. What is the difference between the 1.4 85PS and the 1.2 105PS? Why would I choose the 1.4?
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 13:11 ]
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The 1.2 is a far newer turbocharged engine that will be both quicker and more efficient than the old 1.4. It's definitely the one to go for.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Wed Oct 22, 2014 13:20 ]
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Thanks.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 9:45 ]
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Nooo! You can't get rid of the Ka!
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:50 ]
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Yeah, going to miss it! I'd like to get one of those sport Kas, they must be lie driving a go kart!
Author:  Cras [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 10:52 ]
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Whatever will we do when we can't play the 'Is that Ka being driven by a hot chick or Bobby?' game on the M1?!
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:16 ]
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The Clio passed its MOT with no problems. Phew!
Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:17 ]
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Get Bobby to buy a Fiat 500. Problem solved.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 11:23 ]
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Got a guy coming to hopefully buy the BMW today, so that's nice.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:43 ]
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Cras wrote:
Whatever will we do when we can't play the 'Is that Ka being driven by a hot chick or Bobby?' game on the M1?!


Hey!
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 13:37 ]
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Must look for a pic of mine - a W-Reg black metallic Ka3
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 15:29 ]
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Bmw has gone, now, what next :D
Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 15:31 ]
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I have a lovely MX5... ;)
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 15:39 ]
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I'll take it, wbac price, right?
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 15:42 ]
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Get a big-ass Toyota Hilux.
Author:  GazChap [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 16:02 ]
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Trooper wrote:
I'll take it, wbac price, right?

Curses, forgot I'd told you about that :D
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 16:03 ]
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:D

In all seriousness, I have two choices. Buy an MX5 now and potter around in it till we buy a house next year (hopefully) then put it in the garage and buy a barge to go with it. Or buy a cheap barge now, and buy the MX5 when we move.
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 16:11 ]
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I'd have thought now was the better time to pick up a bargain Mazda than in the spring or summer.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 16:17 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I'd have thought now was the better time to pick up a bargain Mazda than in the spring or summer.


It is, however that does mean i'll be driving round in an mx5 through the winter, which isn't an amazing prospect. And that will mean we have two tiny cars, which isn't massively practical at times.
Both things are liveable with though, and getting an mx5 now means some fun for a bit while it isn't awful weather, plus like you say it should be a bit cheaper. Also, having the mx5 already makes it more likely i'll be able to keep it when we get a new house, buying one after spunking gazillions on a house will be harder to justify :D
Author:  markg [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 19:38 ]
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MX5's are great in the winter, the cabin heats up quicker than any other car I've had.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 20:11 ]
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It's more the scraping of the ice off the inside of the windscreen ;)
If I bought another mx5, it would be my third!

This has some appeal
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... 9257703048

Cheap enough to not worry about the engine going pop, as it will certainly do at some point.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 20:25 ]
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Doooo eeeeet.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 20:32 ]
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Yes do it
Author:  BikNorton [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:31 ]
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£1495, what the fuck? Surely the engine has *already* gone pop on that?

5.1mpg does seem a bit low for a 1.2.
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:36 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
£1495, what the fuck? Surely the engine has *already* gone pop on that?

5.1mpg does seem a bit low for a 1.2.


They are worth absolutely fuck all due to the engine worries and terrible mpg, that one is good value but not especially cheap.
Author:  asfish [ Thu Oct 23, 2014 21:52 ]
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I almost bought a Porsche last week.

My wife will be stopping work in the next 3 months, I was in a used car place the other day waiting for my car to be cleaned next door.

I got to thinking that soon we won't need 2 sensible family cars with baby seats as for the short-term only one of us will go to work.

This one was a Carrera on a Y plate for 12K, no idea about the miles it had done that would have ruined my mid life crisis day dreaming.

Never went back after been put off by service, mpg and running cost horror stories by car savvy work mates
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Oct 24, 2014 10:03 ]
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This is weird, it's the first time in 22 years that I don't own a car.
Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 9:41 ]
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Do all electrically adjust able door mirrors use 2 worm drives and a ball joint?
Author:  Cras [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:15 ]
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What's a worm drive?
Author:  krazywookie [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:48 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Do all electrically adjust able door mirrors use 2 worm drives and a ball joint?

pretty much, although I've seen one that uses a solenoid and ratchet setup but that's a bit shit.
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:49 ]
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Cras wrote:
What's a worm drive?

/wiggles finger
Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:51 ]
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krazywookie wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Do all electrically adjust able door mirrors use 2 worm drives and a ball joint?

pretty much, although I've seen one that uses a solenoid and ratchet setup but that's a bit shit.


Sweet, do you think I can get an electric mirror from, say, a corsa, and cannibalise it for the bits?
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:53 ]
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Internet says "you'd need to be pretty lucky".
Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:56 ]
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Ah well.

Thanks, anyway
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