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Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:57 ]
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Mimi wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
It's keyless entry and push start, so there's no ignition to turn.

Any way to sort/diagnose an immobiliser fault?


Change battery on fob


Its not working on any of the fobs, and they were all working on Monday. Unless the batteries have run out on all of the keyless entry fobs on exactly the same day it isn't that.


It's unlikely, true.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:01 ]
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Have got the RAC coming out to look at it. Just annoying not knowing.

Thanks for the help so far though :)

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:05 ]
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Mr Russell wrote:
markg wrote:
He tried the manual key. It sounds like a totally flat battery. One of you probably left an interior light on or something.

I'm really paranoid about that since the last car used to drain a lot so I pay real attention.

In that case it was Mimi who did it.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:05 ]
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markg wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
markg wrote:
He tried the manual key. It sounds like a totally flat battery. One of you probably left an interior light on or something.

I'm really paranoid about that since the last car used to drain a lot so I pay real attention.

In that case it was Mimi who did it.

You talking about my wife?!

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:43 ]
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markg wrote:
Mr Russell wrote:
markg wrote:
He tried the manual key. It sounds like a totally flat battery. One of you probably left an interior light on or something.

I'm really paranoid about that since the last car used to drain a lot so I pay real attention.

In that case it was Mimi who did it.


It probably was :facepalm:

No, to be honest, I wouldn't even know how to put the interior lights on. I think all of the electrics switch off if you are not in the vicinity of the car anyway, so I don't think it is something that e have left on, or if it is, it should go off after a few seconds.

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:14 ]
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All the electrics in my car are supposed to go off too. They don't. It's never actually not started but yeah, modern cars are stupid.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:15 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
All the electrics in my car are supposed to go off too. They don't. It's never actually not started but yeah, modern cars are stupid.


I found out the other weekend that the switch on the steering column turns the parking lights of the car on...

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:17 ]
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The other night, I grounded the Celica on Jem's driveway after sinking into some gravel. Trying to unbeach myself has stuffed the exhaust, despite me thinking there was no obvious damage it turns out one of the welds has split open or something so there's a humungous hole in the exhaust now.

Clearly, the logical thing to do would be to simply pay my local garage to repair the weld, which would take barely any time at all and cost me about £40.

But no, what I've actually done, is buy a second-hand Blitz Nur-Spec R exhaust which arrives tomorrow. I've asked the guy at the local garage to swap them over, and then repair my old exhaust anyway so I can sell it - so the total cost is going to end up much higher. Hopefully I can sell the repaired exhaust for a decent sum.

Kinda curious as to the volume increase though - the current exhaust tested at 88dB at a track day last year, the mental M5 exhaust I had on tested at 103.4dB, and this Nur-Spec R apparently tests at 105+dB in this configuration...

Author:  BikNorton [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:27 ]
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'last year'? Didn't you have it on track recently?

I thought that they checked every car on track days because of 95dB noise pollution stuff because of idiots buying houses next to tracks than complaining about noise.

They did at oulton when I took my civic in 2004.

Are you just lucky to have a local track with no nearby idiots?

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:31 ]
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Yeah, last track event was last weekend at Blyton Park up in Lincolnshire - no noise testing is done there, it's far enough out of the way that it's out of earshot of everyone basically. They do say that there is an "unofficial" limit of 105 though and that if they think a car is taking the piss noise-wise they'll pull it in for a test.

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:50 ]
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Hnnngh. I WANT IT.

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 11:51 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
All the electrics in my car are supposed to go off too. They don't. It's never actually not started but yeah, modern cars are stupid.


The chap from the RAC is here. Only four hours later than expected, so that's cool. The return to work today has been fab.

Anyhoo, it is definitely the battery. He has checked and nothing was left on. He has re-charged the battery and re-turned the car off and there is a drain of 9 or .9 somethings running the car down whilst it is all completely off, though he can't work out what. So, boo.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:01 ]
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A cursory Google suggests that people have had issues with the bluetooth module draining power or the immobiliser not going to sleep properly. Is it under warranty at all?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:04 ]
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Mimi wrote:
He has checked and nothing was left on.

How in the name of Christ can he tell that?

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:05 ]
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The interior and exterior light switch positions? There's nothing much else you can leave on is there?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:10 ]
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markg wrote:
The interior and exterior light switch positions? There's nothing much else you can leave on is there?

How many cars actually have switches for that, rather than them being automatic or push-buttons?

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:10 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Mimi wrote:
He has checked and nothing was left on.

How in the name of Christ can he tell that?


By first checking that the boot etc were properly locked (not to leave them ajar, where the light can be left on, like a fridge door) then powering the car and seeing what pops back on, from what he said. There was nothing that came on (lights... other things - I don't know - radio?) to see if it was something that we could physically leave on, though as he said, unless the door was open it should all power off automatically even if we did leave them on. But we knew the doors were not left open as we couldn't get into the car this morning.

But there is a drain on the battery with everything off, so that is in line with what he said, also, I suppose.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:10 ]
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COuld be the regulator/rectifier not charging the battery fully as it goes around, which, if nothing was left on, could cause it to slowly drain as it isn't charging properly. I think they are hidden in the alternator. I had a motorbike do that once, took bloody ages to work out what was wrong with it. Turns out, you souldn't ride an er5 through foot deep water.

Author:  Mimi [ Wed Jul 23, 2014 12:21 ]
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It's a fuse.

He has removed and tested the fuses one by one and the very last one that he tried was the culprit. So, he replaced the fuse but it doesn't solve the problem, so he brought up the wiring diagrams and the fuse serves about eight different systems (it's the 'battery +' lead fuse.)

To temporarily enable us to use the car whilst we get it to a garage, he is making us a fuse with a little handle that Russell can easily remove from the car each time he parks to stop the battery drain, but it will need to be booked in.

Author:  asfish [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 7:14 ]
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My replacement car arrived yesterday. In the end I went for another Octavia 2.0 TDI

Did fancy the VRS but the petrol was crap mpg when compared with the TDI, went after a couple of Diesel VRS but these had sold already

Paid 14K for a late 2011 model that's Laurin Klement spec so Sat Nav, Leather, cruise control, will get around 4K back for the other car so not a bad deal at all. Its got 20,000 on the clock.

Based on how lost the deliver guy got when dropping the car off, I figured the Sat Nav maps were very outdated, the updates for it for June 2014 is 17GB in size!!?

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 12:58 ]
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asfish wrote:
the updates for it for June 2014 is 17GB in size!!?

WTFF?

Before even thinking about what it could be - how are you meant to get it on there?

Author:  KovacsC [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 13:04 ]
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Grim... wrote:
asfish wrote:
the updates for it for June 2014 is 17GB in size!!?

WTFF?

Before even thinking about what it could be - how are you meant to get it on there?


sd card...

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 15:36 ]
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From where? 17GB is a massive amount to download.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Jul 26, 2014 16:22 ]
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I take it that's with the Columbus nav?
The one for the Amundsen in mine was "just" 6GB.

Talking of Skodas....

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun Jul 27, 2014 23:54 ]
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I'm getting my Leon serviced on Thursday (major with timing belt and water pump done too).

Its booked in at a VAG specialists and since calling them I've been agonising whether to get it remapped while it's there (would take it from 110 to over 140). Would add an extra £200 onto the bill plus whatever the change would be to my insurance. Could be a fair whack on top as it's over 25% increase...

I think my wife would slash my nutsack if I did it... she wouldn't understand. :)

Plus £200 could be a couple of nice planes.

Author:  asfish [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 15:16 ]
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Grim... wrote:
From where? 17GB is a massive amount to download.


http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERS ... rope-Site&

I was linked here from the SKoda site, they say to use a 32GB SD card. Problem is the menu in their instructions is nothing like mine, so it doesn't work. They say to use NTFS for the SD card and my unit won't read anything from the card including MP3's. Did a test and it reads FAT32 SD cards. There is no way this update will work for me as the card to it must be NTFS.

Have found SKoda to be crap really, called them up today and asked them if they could tell me if the phone integration was missing or broken from the details of the car. They said to take it into a dealer who could reset the unit.

The I found a SatNav company who work a lot with these units and have a few videos on how update them etc. When I told the guy what happens when I press the phone button on the unit he said I need a Blue Tooth module as this is an option with the unit, as is TV and DVD playback

He said its £400, they told me £90 to update the maps which Skoda offer out for free??!

Author:  Mr Russell [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 15:29 ]
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Fans of my car battery being flat will be ecstatic with frothiness to know that it was apparently the Bluetooth module causing the drain.

Not an interior light being left on by Mimi, as markg suggested.

A full apology in writing should suffice.

Anyway, going to have a new module fitted on Friday.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 18:34 ]
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The link you have is for the Columbus in the Mk3 Octavia, which is a totally different to the Columbus in the Mk2, hence the different menus.

Wander over to briskoda.net and someone will advise on updates and the bluetooth module.

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 20:08 ]
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Cunts up the road have started leaving 'your tyre looks.low' and 'if you don't want to drive it dump it outside your own house' notes under my wiper blades.

Because obviously someone who leaves a car up the road from their house for a few weeks without getting the catastrophically failed tyre fixed is doing it for shits and giggles.



Tomorrow after tyres on the drive have been I AM continuing to leave it outside their house for shits and giggles.

Author:  BikNorton [ Mon Jul 28, 2014 20:11 ]
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Although given the rear air suspension looks.suspiciously low give chances are the battery's dead so I wouldn't be able to move it even if I wanted to.

Author:  asfish [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 5:52 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
The link you have is for the Columbus in the Mk3 Octavia, which is a totally different to the Columbus in the Mk2, hence the different menus.

Wander over to briskoda.net and someone will advise on updates and the bluetooth module.



Thanks for the link, my mate looked into it and said you can get the BT module for £160 and fitting requires no soldering just take the unit out and its plug and play

£400 looks to be the standard price at dealers and Sat Nav places.

You can buy Android based head units that do everything for less than £400 on Ebay

Author:  BikNorton [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 13:29 ]
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Tyres on the Drive seems pretty good. No idea yet how well they balanced it but they arrived, cracked on, took payment, and left. About half an hour. Even checked the pressure and tread in the other 3 tyres (7mm remaining, surprise surprise).

The hole was pretty huge, 3-4mm, so no surprise gunk couldn't hold it. Ride-On TPS would've in theory. Anyone tried that? The videos look ace.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 14:01 ]
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I've used e-tyres before, and got them to balance the other couple of tyres at the same time as they fitted the other two, just on the off chance they could help. I'd already tried a couple of tyre fitting garages and they couldn't dial out the judder. Dude used his little balancing machine in the back of his van and did them perfectly, no judder at all after that :)

Author:  markg [ Tue Jul 29, 2014 15:11 ]
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asfish wrote:
Grim... wrote:
From where? 17GB is a massive amount to download.


http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERS ... rope-Site&

I was linked here from the SKoda site, they say to use a 32GB SD card. Problem is the menu in their instructions is nothing like mine, so it doesn't work. They say to use NTFS for the SD card and my unit won't read anything from the card including MP3's. Did a test and it reads FAT32 SD cards. There is no way this update will work for me as the card to it must be NTFS.

Have found SKoda to be crap really, called them up today and asked them if they could tell me if the phone integration was missing or broken from the details of the car. They said to take it into a dealer who could reset the unit.

The I found a SatNav company who work a lot with these units and have a few videos on how update them etc. When I told the guy what happens when I press the phone button on the unit he said I need a Blue Tooth module as this is an option with the unit, as is TV and DVD playback

He said its £400, they told me £90 to update the maps which Skoda offer out for free??!

Not sure if it's of any use but I just ordered one of these things:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009NLTW60/

My car has aux in and whilst the Bluetooth is something you can similarly add in this seems to do everything that I'd want. It'll pair automatically and let you play music and take calls and whatnot.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 11:09 ]
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Heh.

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 13:13 ]
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markg wrote:
asfish wrote:
Grim... wrote:
From where? 17GB is a massive amount to download.


http://www.navigation.com/is-bin/INTERS ... rope-Site&

I was linked here from the SKoda site, they say to use a 32GB SD card. Problem is the menu in their instructions is nothing like mine, so it doesn't work. They say to use NTFS for the SD card and my unit won't read anything from the card including MP3's. Did a test and it reads FAT32 SD cards. There is no way this update will work for me as the card to it must be NTFS.

Have found SKoda to be crap really, called them up today and asked them if they could tell me if the phone integration was missing or broken from the details of the car. They said to take it into a dealer who could reset the unit.

The I found a SatNav company who work a lot with these units and have a few videos on how update them etc. When I told the guy what happens when I press the phone button on the unit he said I need a Blue Tooth module as this is an option with the unit, as is TV and DVD playback

He said its £400, they told me £90 to update the maps which Skoda offer out for free??!

Not sure if it's of any use but I just ordered one of these things:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B009NLTW60/

My car has aux in and whilst the Bluetooth is something you can similarly add in this seems to do everything that I'd want. It'll pair automatically and let you play music and take calls and whatnot.

This thing's just as good as all the reviews make out. Pretty tiny and as soon as I paired my phone and pressed the button it fired up Spotify holding the button opens the Google voice search so you can search contacts or ask for directions or whatever. Pretty amazing car upgrade for £30.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 14:04 ]
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Hey, that does sound cool.

I'd get one for the Jaaaaaaaag but it's probably less cool when it's plugged in with this:
Image

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 14:17 ]
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I've had varying degrees of success in the past with those but if the one you have is working ok then this would be fine through it.

I've never much rated voice controls for anything before but in the car where it's safer and also you don't feel like a complete tit it makes perfect sense.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 14:32 ]
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The tape adaptors are very quality dependent. The ebay ones sound awful, but the official Philips one that costs about a tenner sounds excellent.

Shame I don't have a car with a tape deck at the moment. I'm that 2005-2010 no-mans land of CD player built in, old school ipod connector built in, but no AUX 3.5mm jack, or bluetooth music streaming. It's the worst of all worlds for me and my android phone...

Author:  markg [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 14:42 ]
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Trooper wrote:
The tape adaptors are very quality dependent. The ebay ones sound awful, but the official Philips one that costs about a tenner sounds excellent.

Shame I don't have a car with a tape deck at the moment. I'm that 2005-2010 no-mans land of CD player built in, old school ipod connector built in, but no AUX 3.5mm jack, or bluetooth music streaming. It's the worst of all worlds for me and my android phone...

Sometimes you can hack a line-in if the head unit supports a CD multi-changer. I did that on one car I had and it worked fine.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 14:52 ]
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markg wrote:
Trooper wrote:
The tape adaptors are very quality dependent. The ebay ones sound awful, but the official Philips one that costs about a tenner sounds excellent.

Shame I don't have a car with a tape deck at the moment. I'm that 2005-2010 no-mans land of CD player built in, old school ipod connector built in, but no AUX 3.5mm jack, or bluetooth music streaming. It's the worst of all worlds for me and my android phone...

Sometimes you can hack a line-in if the head unit supports a CD multi-changer. I did that on one car I had and it worked fine.


Yeah, I could hack the iphone connector lead, but it's just faff :) I only occasionally drive somewhere long enough for me to wish I had sorted it, other times I just put the radio on.

I have an FM modulator, but that is pretty crappy.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 15:14 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Shame I don't have a car with a tape deck at the moment.


Well Trooper! Today is your LUCKY DAY! I have for you a lovely radio casette encased in a 2006 Ford Ka with dent in the boot and fairly recent alternator, starter motor and clutch!

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 15:14 ]
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decrescent-Conn ... ipod+cable
?

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 15:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decrescent-Connector-Stereo-Auxiliary-iPhone/dp/B007NIE5EE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406729673&sr=1-1&keywords=aux+to+ipod+cable
?


?

I have a built in iphone cable in the car, that isn't going to help.

I wonder if I can get a 3.5mm to iphone dock connector though, that might work. I have tried a bluetooth adaptor on it, but that doesn't work as unless it is an actual iphone plugged in it doesn't send any power.

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 15:32 ]
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One of these in fact, I shall buy and report back!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Grom-iPhone-Fem ... B004VCWM3G

It says I can get a refund if it doesn't work.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 15:58 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Grim... wrote:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Decrescent-Connector-Stereo-Auxiliary-iPhone/dp/B007NIE5EE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1406729673&sr=1-1&keywords=aux+to+ipod+cable
?


?

I have a built in iphone cable in the car, that isn't going to help.

Oh, I'm thinking about it backwards :facepalm:

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 18:29 ]
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Is this for your E65, Troops? I have a Tune2Air that I had in my M5 - if you have a USB and can hack an aux-in in somewhere, you can probably use the Tune2Air for Bluetooth streaming?

Author:  Trooper [ Wed Jul 30, 2014 18:49 ]
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Yeah, the hacking in the aux-in is the main problem for my lazy arse :D

Author:  krazywookie [ Sat Aug 02, 2014 11:25 ]
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Today we try to get the Mazda turbo-nutter engine going, there's pics of it somewhere, can't upload more on phone for some reason. Probably windows's's fault.

Author:  BikNorton [ Sat Aug 02, 2014 19:35 ]
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A massive expense I didn't need but these dunlops are bloody brilliant in the wet, at least compared to the Conti nct5 ru flats (apparently the best one). Weather far worse today than would have had it undriveable as the traction control cut throttle more and more to try and regain control before, and it didn't even flicker. The m61 was a single massive puddle with more coming down, and it was rock solid.

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