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Advice! Does anyone have any experience of i-Shift gearboxes with Honda?

Is it essentially a semi-automatic? I'm looking at a second-hand Jazz after my ancient Golf decided to stop unlocking, in an unforgivable pique of passive-aggressiveness. But I'm not really after an automatic, would prefer a manual, but would be willing to live with i-shift if it's not a piece of i-shit.


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Advice! Does anyone have any experience of i-Shift gearboxes with Honda?

Is it essentially a semi-automatic? I'm looking at a second-hand Jazz after my ancient Golf decided to stop unlocking, in an unforgivable pique of passive-aggressiveness. But I'm not really after an automatic, would prefer a manual, but would be willing to live with i-shift if it's not a piece of i-shit.


have no experience myself but a quick web search brought up this -

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I-Shift, they call the Honda Jazz's ‘automatic' transmission. This is a misnomer. It doesn't. Shift, that is. Not very often, anyhow. And not very well at all.

It is, in short, utter pants. You're at the traffic lights. Light goes green. Pin the throttle. The little Jazz revs sweetly, up and into the VTEC. I-Shift decides to change up, because that's what automatic gearboxes do.

Accelerate, accelerate, and then... nothing. Complete loss of power. Your head jolts forwards towards the windscreen. Seemingly seconds and seconds of interminable nothingness as the i-Shift searches for the next gear - confound it, I'm sure I left it here somewhere - and then... clunk. Awkwardly, abruptly into gear, head thumped back into the headrest, up through the revs to do it all over again. Oh dear.

You learn to drive round it a bit, easing off the accelerator on changes, helping i-Shift as much as you can. You will feel sorry for i-Shift. But even if you take manual control of the shifts from the flappy paddles, it's still awful: too slow to change, useless at matching the revs, jerky to the point of nausea, despite being a clutchless manual rather than a full automatic. It's a similar set-up to the equally ponderous Smart ForTwo. Maybe a normal auto would work better


So the topgear website thinks its pretty bad

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Slightly Green wrote:
Findus Fop wrote:
Advice! Does anyone have any experience of i-Shift gearboxes with Honda?

Is it essentially a semi-automatic? I'm looking at a second-hand Jazz after my ancient Golf decided to stop unlocking, in an unforgivable pique of passive-aggressiveness. But I'm not really after an automatic, would prefer a manual, but would be willing to live with i-shift if it's not a piece of i-shit.


have no experience myself but a quick web search brought up this -

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I-Shift, they call the Honda Jazz's ‘automatic' transmission. This is a misnomer. It doesn't. Shift, that is. Not very often, anyhow. And not very well at all.

It is, in short, utter pants. You're at the traffic lights. Light goes green. Pin the throttle. The little Jazz revs sweetly, up and into the VTEC. I-Shift decides to change up, because that's what automatic gearboxes do.

Accelerate, accelerate, and then... nothing. Complete loss of power. Your head jolts forwards towards the windscreen. Seemingly seconds and seconds of interminable nothingness as the i-Shift searches for the next gear - confound it, I'm sure I left it here somewhere - and then... clunk. Awkwardly, abruptly into gear, head thumped back into the headrest, up through the revs to do it all over again. Oh dear.

You learn to drive round it a bit, easing off the accelerator on changes, helping i-Shift as much as you can. You will feel sorry for i-Shift. But even if you take manual control of the shifts from the flappy paddles, it's still awful: too slow to change, useless at matching the revs, jerky to the point of nausea, despite being a clutchless manual rather than a full automatic. It's a similar set-up to the equally ponderous Smart ForTwo. Maybe a normal auto would work better


So the topgear website thinks its pretty bad


ah great, thank you. Sounds like it's to be avoided. I can make myself nauseous well enough with my own sloppy gear changes.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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A group of my friends are buying some cheap cars and going on a road trip to the Nürburgring in May next year. If anyone is interested in coming with us, drop me a PM for more info.

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A group of my friends are buying some cheap cars and going on a road trip to the Nürburgring in May next year. If anyone is interested in coming with us, drop me a PM for more info.


Toad and I are actively searching for a vehicle now, we should probably think of a team name first though...


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A group of my friends are buying some cheap cars and going on a road trip to the Nürburgring in May next year. If anyone is interested in coming with us, drop me a PM for more info.

Toad and I are actively searching for a vehicle now, we should probably think of a team name first though...

Christ, that's putting a lot of faith into my organisation skills :)

You should maybe wait for a confirmation date before putting any money down!

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A group of my friends are buying some cheap cars and going on a road trip to the Nürburgring in May next year. If anyone is interested in coming with us, drop me a PM for more info.

Toad and I are actively searching for a vehicle now, we should probably think of a team name first though...

Christ, that's putting a lot of faith into my organisation skills :)

You should maybe wait for a confirmation date before putting any money down!


:D just applying a little pressure ;)


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At this stage, at least, there's not much I can do until Nurturing update thier event schedule.

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No worries, I can work around whatever date it ends up being.


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thinking of getting a Toyota Auris 1.6 (2013) - anyone know of a reason not to get this? The next in line is the Seat Ibiza


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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While it seems like I won't be buying a honda because of it's cruddy i-shift, their clever bastards in marketing have been, well, clever.

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Right looking at a car tomorrow, it is a 1.6 2013 Toyota Auris done ~13000 miles. It is on the market for £11k.
How much should I pay for it?
Also, there is another one V.similar which seems to come with a 3.5 Toyota year warranty (cf 1 sales place yr), how much value would people place on that extended warranty?

Also, is there a way to check the brakes without removing wheels? Should the sales place have a "report" detailing the state of the car?

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I just got a text from Williams offering me a 116i sport for £249 with no.deposit.

Why does their system think it's worth spamming me with that when I have a massive 3 litre diesel estate?


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Because most families have more than one car these days?


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I just got a text from Williams offering me a 116i sport for £249 with no.deposit.

Why does their system think it's worth spamming me with that when I have a massive 3 litre diesel estate?


Because before that you had a Twingo?

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Backing into the drive today, I forgot which car I was in so took my off off the brake and rolled cheerfully into the concrete fence post. The post is ok and the ka seems remarkably unscathed.

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Bobbyaro wrote:
thinking of getting a Toyota Auris 1.6 (2013) - anyone know of a reason not to get this? The next in line is the Seat Ibiza

Make sure it's had any recall work done. Toyotas have been plagued by bad build quality lately. Seat ibizas are lovely little cars, had two already myself.

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Because before that you had a Twingo?
they shouldn't know that though, the only reason they have my details is because I rang them and said 'so I've been a bit foolish...'

I don't remember what that first call ws about actually, but I did at least find out it had already had the 'intelligent battery sensor' recall sorted. You know, the cable that's so intelligent it caused widespread battery discharge and death. Ahaha?


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I have just bought an E46 M3.

World of pain? We'll find out soon enough.


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I have just bought an E46 M3.

World of pain? We'll find out soon enough.


Cool! Pics?

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I'm sure it will be the best car you've had until it needs work done :)

What colour, Gaz?

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Very nice :) did you get rid of anything to get it?


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Nope, although the MX5 will need to go.


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So bought a Toyota Auris, picked it up Wednesday gone.
It is (semi)-auto, and I have noticed there is a clunk from the front of the car when I go from drive to neutral, or from having my foot on the accelerator to not. Any one know if this is normal for an auto? Anything to worry about?


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GazChap wrote:
Nope, although the MX5 will need to go.


Hmmmm... How much? :D


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GazChap wrote:
Nope, although the MX5 will need to go.


Hmmmm... How much? :D


And do you have any details....


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It's a 2002 model, and I think it's a Mk2.5 rather than just a Mk2 (not sure though)

It's a blue, manual S-VT Sport, so it has a fairly high spec for MX5s - heated leather seats, strut braces up the wazoo and, critically, an LSD as standard. The engine has VVT so is torquier down low, makes it more usable :)

~96,000 miles on the clock.

MOT'd until end of April.

Comes with a Bluetooth-enabled Pure radio too which is pretty good - upgraded the firmware on it last week to fix an issue with it not auto-connecting to my phone.

Drives beautifully, and as far as I can tell there's no rust on it (or certainly wasn't when I bought it anyway :P)

Only downsides to the car are:

- couple of scratches on the OSF wing - not really that noticeable and may even polish out, I've not really been that bothered to look at them.

- fan belt squeals occasionally on a cold start, this only started this week though so might just be the cold weather

- no service history to speak of. I need to contact Mazda to see what they have in the dealer network for it, but there's no SH with the car. However, the previous owner told me that it was basically given a thorough once over by one of the guys at MX5Nutz shortly before she bought it, and this is reflected in the state of the thing - the engine bay is pristine - only time I've seen an engine that clean is on a new car, and yeah, no rust.

- Bit of wear on the seats but nothing major.

Looking for about £1,600.


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Bobbyaro wrote:
So bought a Toyota Auris, picked it up Wednesday gone.
It is (semi)-auto, and I have noticed there is a clunk from the front of the car when I go from drive to neutral, or from having my foot on the accelerator to not. Any one know if this is normal for an auto? Anything to worry about?

I'd get it looked at, could be an engine mount away or exhaust touching or something simple like that.


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Very nice :) did you get rid of anything to get it?


His sanity? ;)

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Does rather assume I had that to begin with.


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That would certainly explain a lot.

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GazChap wrote:
It's a 2002 model, and I think it's a Mk2.5 rather than just a Mk2 (not sure though)

It's a blue, manual S-VT Sport, so it has a fairly high spec for MX5s - heated leather seats, strut braces up the wazoo and, critically, an LSD as standard. The engine has VVT so is torquier down low, makes it more usable :)

~96,000 miles on the clock.

MOT'd until end of April.

Comes with a Bluetooth-enabled Pure radio too which is pretty good - upgraded the firmware on it last week to fix an issue with it not auto-connecting to my phone.

Drives beautifully, and as far as I can tell there's no rust on it (or certainly wasn't when I bought it anyway :P)

Only downsides to the car are:

- couple of scratches on the OSF wing - not really that noticeable and may even polish out, I've not really been that bothered to look at them.

- fan belt squeals occasionally on a cold start, this only started this week though so might just be the cold weather

- no service history to speak of. I need to contact Mazda to see what they have in the dealer network for it, but there's no SH with the car. However, the previous owner told me that it was basically given a thorough once over by one of the guys at MX5Nutz shortly before she bought it, and this is reflected in the state of the thing - the engine bay is pristine - only time I've seen an engine that clean is on a new car, and yeah, no rust.

- Bit of wear on the seats but nothing major.

Looking for about £1,600.


Shame this wasn't a month ago, or a year in the future :D

Hold on to it would you, I'll buy it next year when I have a garage... ;)

edit: simplest way to know if you have a mk2.5 is if you have white dials.


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Apparently all the S-VT Sports are Mk2.5s so yep :)

And you don't need a bloody garage! It'd probably be the smallest car you've owned, with the exception of the Fiat 500 ;)


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Bobbyaro wrote:
So bought a Toyota Auris, picked it up Wednesday gone.
It is (semi)-auto, and I have noticed there is a clunk from the front of the car when I go from drive to neutral, or from having my foot on the accelerator to not. Any one know if this is normal for an auto? Anything to worry about?

I'd get it looked at, could be an engine mount away or exhaust touching or something simple like that.

So how does this work then? The car is under warranty, do I just turn up at a Toyota garage and ask them to look at it? Does a warranty cover investigative work like this?


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GazChap wrote:
Apparently all the S-VT Sports are Mk2.5s so yep :)

And you don't need a bloody garage! It'd probably be the smallest car you've owned, with the exception of the Fiat 500 ;)


It's more that I only have one parking space and 2 cars already. Can't fit another one in.


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Bobbyaro wrote:
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Bobbyaro wrote:
So bought a Toyota Auris, picked it up Wednesday gone.
It is (semi)-auto, and I have noticed there is a clunk from the front of the car when I go from drive to neutral, or from having my foot on the accelerator to not. Any one know if this is normal for an auto? Anything to worry about?

I'd get it looked at, could be an engine mount away or exhaust touching or something simple like that.

So how does this work then? The car is under warranty, do I just turn up at a Toyota garage and ask them to look at it? Does a warranty cover investigative work like this?


Call the garage you bought it from first, they'll tell you to book it in. It won't cost you anything.


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Have done, they said it was warranty so had to go to a Toyota garage.


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Technically, it's their problem as you bought it from them, so they need to sort it out.
In reality, it might be best to go straight to Toyota. Give them all the info, explain the situation and see what they say you need to do.

edit: My response would have been "Great, i'll drop it off tomorrow and you can send it over to them. Let me know when it's fixed would you", but then I like arguing with garages who try and shirk their responsibilities :D


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Grey Ford Focus? It's "Midnight Sky", you dicks.

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Oof! Much damage?

Nearly had something similar a few months ago on the A5. Uncharacteristically I was driving sensibly for a change so I was in the left lane.

Had I been in the right lane, I'd have been stuffed.


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Not a massive amount, but it's almost certainly written off.

I got to use my First Aid kit on some old people, though. Cheevo unlocked!

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You are using the 'Ted' forum. Bill doesn't really exist any more. Bogus!
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RIP, Owen. RIP, MrC.

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