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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:25 
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Although I'm determined to squeeze 200k from my Leon so I can say in your face to Myps from an earlier post in this thread.

Hit the 120k mark today!


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The Merc is very close to 150k!

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This is the highest mileage I've had in a car I've owned. Think I bought it with 78k on the clock.

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We're looking at buying a new car after my wife's accident. We haven't heard back whether the old car will be a write off yet but I imagine it will.

Anyway, we've seen this one...

http://www.evanshalshaw.com/search/Vehi ... k-WP12DXO/

Normally I'd take my dad to look at it and ask all the relevant questions but he's not well so I'm asking you lot. What do you reckon? What should I be looking out for?


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That seems pricey for a 5/6 year old QQ.


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Does it? Is that because it's a 7 seater? Apparently they're not that common.


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What should I be looking out for?


Check all tyes match. Ask why if they don't.
Check for spare wheel and toolkit.
Push each corner down and see if it bounces back normally.
On start up, and when running, look for non normal exhaust colors. Blue is bad.
Look under coolant cap, it should not look yucky.
Turn steering lock to lock and listen for crunching noises. There should not be any.
You will want all keys.
Bounce engine of rev limiter a couple of times when warm and listen for rattles.
Emergency stop it a few times with a light grip on steering wheel to see if it pulls left or right.
Accelerate hard a few times to see if it pulls ok. If it feels like an auto box looking for a geat,clutch is going.
Check big service interval times and costs like timing belts.
Run fingers undr wheel arches to look for rust.
Check previous mot for advisories.

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That Up! Gti looked a hoot on NuTop Gear

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Brilliant advice! Thank you.


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Try to gently wobble the exhaust with your foot, too.

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Does it? Is that because it's a 7 seater? Apparently they're not that common.


Congratulations!

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Don't forget to kick every tyre!


Even the spare?


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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Lonewolves wrote:
Don't forget to kick every tyre!


Even the spare?


Infact every tyre on the street..

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Guzzling Money Pits
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What Mali said and:
Check the wingmirrors fold in and all the electrics (if any) work.
Test all windows and sunroof if it has one.
Dont look too keen. Be cheeky, offer them 35% less than on the window, then work up if needs be.

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Let it run, make sure the temperature guage works.

Check the heaters once it's warm, too.

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I tested one car and everything was going well until the rear view mirror fell off. Check for blutack.


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Check that all the fault lights light then go out when you put it in accessories, except the engine one that goes off when you actually start it.


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Check if the parking sensors work

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General, hypothetical question. If you had a regular car - a boring, mid range, 4 door whatever - and drove it boringly, and always did the service and checked the oil and did everything you were meant to, and had good luck and never hit a stationary car on a motorway slip road, how many miles would you expect it to be able to do before it fell to bits ( or would cost more than it's worth to fix )? I've had cars that were rattly pieces of shit at about 100k miles, but i get the impression you can expect some to last much much longer.


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A lot of it depends on what sort of miles they are, 100K up and down motorways is a bit easier on a car than 100k weaving around town, more gear changes more braking and bouncing over speed bumps etc.


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Also for example, Peugeot engines are brilliant, but the electrics and chassis will fail around it long before it stops working.

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My BMW 320 has done 115K now and it doesn't rattle at all, but there are some expensive to change parts on cars that just can't be expected to last forever. So no matter how well engineered a car is once the mileage gets up you'll end up needing to change a clutch or something and depending on the value of the car you might just think that it's time to get rid before that happens.

e.g. I've got an oil leak right now that I'm hoping is *just* the valve cover gasket or the oil filter housing gasket. If it's either of those then I'll probably try and fix it myself because I'd get my old man to help out, I like working with him on things so it would almost be fun. But if I didn't have that option and had to pay a garage then I might think twice.


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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

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You get an idea of cars with good longevity by what you see on the roads and mileage on cars you see about on eBay / Parkers etc.

I'm on 120,000 in my Seat Leon TDi *touches wood* nothing major I've had to pay for so far. I try and do as much as I can, maintenance wise.

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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

He bought a BMW kit for it.

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I have won the rental car lottery. I think it’s a 6.2 litre V8, 455 horsepower, although I’m not sure.


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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

That's my wife's car, I just couldn't be bothered pointing that out to captain toryporsche.


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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

That's my wife's car, I just couldn't be bothered pointing that out to captain toryporsche.

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Where is Cavey?

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Also for example, Peugeot engines are brilliant, but the electrics and chassis will fail around it long before it stops working.


Also the timing chain.

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Zardoz wrote:
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I thought you had a Honda Jazz?

He bought a BMW kit for it.


This made me laugh, a lot :D

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Yup, that's the 455bhp jobber. Noice.


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It has an eight speed box. Thankfully an auto, because I don’t think my tiny brain could figure out cornering gears with eight to pick from.


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Also it’s an NA V8. It’s got power band for days. You could cruise around town and never use anything other than third. Why does it need eight gears?!


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Not to rain on the Doc's parade, but *barges Doc out of the way*

ahem, someone was trying to persuade me of the benefits of remapping my Skoda Yeti. I dimly recalled people like Z and Hearthly talking about getting it done on here.

Does it actually work to the degrees that are claimed, or is it often marginal gains.

A company that performs the service for my car spat these figures back at me. Is it reasonable to expect such performance* after a remap? And would one really feel the benefit of that kind of increase anyway?

*I know, fear me.


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It has an eight speed box. Thankfully an auto, because I don’t think my tiny brain could figure out cornering gears with eight to pick from.

The manual would probably be a 6-speed. Autos have loads of gears these days to help with fuel economy.

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Also it’s an NA V8. It’s got power band for days. You could cruise around town and never use anything other than third. Why does it need eight gears?!

I suspect that's so you don't get comedy fuel usage. Even with 8 gears it's probably amusingly bad, and most of that amusement likely comes from the fact you're not paying $8 a gallon

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There's more gains to be had remapping turbo diesels than with petrol engines but looking at the stats there you'd certainly feel the difference.

You need to declare this sort of work to your insurance company too so premiums will rise.

I never got mine remapped due to the garage telling me a few jobs needed doing to mine before it was safe to do. Currently getting the jobs done (and paying for house stuff) so it keeps getting pushed back.

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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Also it’s an NA V8. It’s got power band for days. You could cruise around town and never use anything other than third. Why does it need eight gears?!

I suspect that's so you don't get comedy fuel usage. Even with 8 gears it's probably amusingly bad, and most of that amusement likely comes from the fact you're not paying $8 a gallon

You're probably right. We're doing a 400 mile road trip on the weekend. I'll zero the counters first.


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@FindusFop

There's more gains to be had remapping turbo diesels than with petrol engines but looking at the stats there you'd certainly feel the difference.

You need to declare this sort of work to your insurance company too so premiums will rise.

I never got mine remapped due to the garage telling me a few jobs needed doing to mine before it was safe to do. Currently getting the jobs done (and paying for house stuff) so it keeps getting pushed back.


Cheerz Z. Will consider it in a few months or so when the christmas aftershocks have subsided. May also have to make a casual call to my insurer to ask them the hypothetical what if.

MPG doesn't fall off a cliff, does it? I know many claim to enhance MPG, though I remain unconvinced. The Yeti already averages a pretty cruddy 33 mpg.


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@FindusFop

There's more gains to be had remapping turbo diesels than with petrol engines but looking at the stats there you'd certainly feel the difference.

You need to declare this sort of work to your insurance company too so premiums will rise.

I never got mine remapped due to the garage telling me a few jobs needed doing to mine before it was safe to do. Currently getting the jobs done (and paying for house stuff) so it keeps getting pushed back.


Cheerz Z. Will consider it in a few months or so when the christmas aftershocks have subsided. May also have to make a casual call to my insurer to ask them the hypothetical what if.

MPG doesn't fall off a cliff, does it? I know many claim to enhance MPG, though I remain unconvinced. The Yeti already averages a pretty cruddy 33 mpg.

Remaps are fully amazing, don't hurt your car and make it better in every way. For additional savings don't tell your insurance company, they'll never find out any way.

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MPG should improve too, Findus. Should be stats for that too on the place you looked.

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Zardoz wrote:
@FindusFop

There's more gains to be had remapping turbo diesels than with petrol engines but looking at the stats there you'd certainly feel the difference.

You need to declare this sort of work to your insurance company too so premiums will rise.

I never got mine remapped due to the garage telling me a few jobs needed doing to mine before it was safe to do. Currently getting the jobs done (and paying for house stuff) so it keeps getting pushed back.


Cheerz Z. Will consider it in a few months or so when the christmas aftershocks have subsided. May also have to make a casual call to my insurer to ask them the hypothetical what if.

MPG doesn't fall off a cliff, does it? I know many claim to enhance MPG, though I remain unconvinced. The Yeti already averages a pretty cruddy 33 mpg.

Remaps are fully amazing, don't hurt your car and make it better in every way. For additional savings don't tell your insurance company, they'll never find out any way.

Not even sarcasm


So you're in the "No" camp? We should have a remapperendum.


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Those remap figures are entirely plausible. Wander over to briskoda.net for more first hand experience.


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