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I do agree that the welfare system needs a MASSIVE overhaul. I for onr cannot wait for the day when I'm not even entitled to child tax credits, but being on a single wage that will take some time. However I am very aware of those out there that are happy to sit on their arses all day for the rest of their lives and can.

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However I am very aware of those out there that are happy to sit on their arses all day for the rest of their lives and can.


No need to pick on public sector employees. :(

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It was a rubbish job anyway. Much better to get the cool one that's coming up.

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In Thatcher's Britain, raising children isn't considered a valid contribution to society.

Is it, then?

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It's one of the most important.

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That depends on whether you are looking after the society now, or the one that's coming in the future. If this society could stop looking after children and the people that have them, they'd be shedloads of spare cash (and unemployed teachers).

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You seem to be saying that children are not part of society. :(

In any case I don't see society as different things at different times. It's ongoing, and raising children is up there somewhere around "making sure people can eat, and have food and warmth" as opposed to making sure people have the right color paper for annual leave forms or something.

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Not a necessary part, no. And there are plenty of people around who don't have food and warmth. Maybe if there were less children we could do more about that.

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Obviously, there's a lot of Devil's Advocaat being drunk here, but there do need to be less people in this country, and indeed the world.

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Who's going to look after the old people?

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Obviously, there's a lot of Devil's Advocaat being drunk here


Oi! Out of my minibar!

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But they'll have loads of kids to use as cheap labor for our elderly needs, and then they'll realize they outnumber us 1000 to 1 and that we're all too fat and old to wipe our own bums, never mind repel an invasion.

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You're being very nihilistic. :attitude:

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You're being very nihilistic. :attitude:


A future with a growing population currently standing at 6bn leaves little else but nihilism, to be honest.

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Oh right. Well we shall all have to go home and kill ourselves and our families in bizarre internet suicide pacts then.

Because there isn't much other option. :attitude:

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I agree, there are too many people currently alive. 6bn? I can barely stand to be around more than 10 of you at once.

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I think I'm about to hit a milestone too.

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Oh right. Well we shall all have to go home and kill ourselves and our families in bizarre internet suicide pacts then.

No, we should allow Sexual harrassment, as it's necessary to continue the human race.

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If this society could stop looking after children and the people that have them, they'd be shedloads of spare cash (and unemployed teachers).


Are you suggesting we turn parents and their children into money and unemployed teachers?

Interesting plan, but I don't see how it solves much. Interesting though. I might be up for this.


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Oh right. Well we shall all have to go home and kill ourselves and our families in bizarre internet suicide pacts then.

Because there isn't much other option. :attitude:


That's an extreme reaction.

The point is you subsidise things you have too few of.

We do not have too few kids by any stretch of the imagination, therefore we should not, for a simple society's sake calculation, be subsidising their creation.


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It was Craster's reaction, not mine.

And if you're saying that society should leave children to starve to death because we have plenty of them like we have plenty of DVD players in warehouses, then I am going to have to disagree. I think that's an inhuman opinion.

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It was Craster's reaction, not mine.

And if you're saying that society should leave children to starve to death because we have plenty of them like we have plenty of DVD players in warehouses, then I am going to have to disagree. I think that's an inhuman opinion.


No, as starving children is bad.

But if there were fewer incentives for procreating repeatedly when you can't afford to do so without massive handouts, then perhaps fewer people would do it.

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It was Craster's reaction, not mine.


It was indeed, based on the fact that the future is pretty bleak if we keep growing as a population.

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And if you're saying that society should leave children to starve to death because we have plenty of them like we have plenty of DVD players in warehouses, then I am going to have to disagree. I think that's an inhuman opinion.[/color]


I don't think anyone said that. You don't have to have kids, you know.

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I don't think anyone said that. You don't have to have kids, you know.


I don't have kids. And I can tell that the comments are aimed at "scroungers" but the thing is, people have children. If those people don't work, then someone has to pay, or those kids starve to death.

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I've just reached 1000, I had no idea my count was so low on here!

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I've just reached 1000, I had no idea my count was so low on here!


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I don't think anyone said that. You don't have to have kids, you know.


I don't have kids. And I can tell that the comments are aimed at "scroungers" but the thing is, people have children. If those people don't work, then someone has to pay, or those kids starve to death.


Of course, and the very idea of abandoning children without support is abhorrent. This planet can't support six billion people though, and we've got no other place to go right now, so it's time to really start considering long term options for managing our global population in a sustainable way. I don't know what those are, and I know China has tried and failed with appalling results, but we need to change mindsets away from the idea that population growth is vital for continuation of the species. It really isn't - in fact it's beginning to become the greatest threat to continuation of the species that there is.

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I've just reached 1000, I had no idea my count was so low on here!


You're the only Mod outside the top ten. Frankly I think it's disgraceful.

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In Deus Ex there were adverts offering financial incentives (to friends/relatives, obv) from the government to people willing to commit suicide.

Certainly one way to get rid of all the poor people.

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I've just reached 1000, I had no idea my count was so low on here!


You're the only Mod outside the top ten. Frankly I think it's disgraceful.

;) :kiss:

Maybe I just do more moderating than talking shite.* ;)






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This planet can't support six billion people though


That's an important assertion. Is it true? Is there no way that 6bn people can live on Earth? Aren't we already doing this?

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Yes, and people in poorer countries are having ten kids on the off chance that one might survive.

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And we eat more pies than we need to. What's your point? Actually forget it. It seems everyone is more interested in scoring cheap points than explaining what they actually feel, which is one of the few useful things to do in a discussion- nobody here is going to save the world, after all, so all we have left is to share our perspectives and a little knowledge. You don't seem to want to do either, so I'm done with it. I don't believe you would be so callous with your own son's future, and I think the devil has more than enough advocates.

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I don't think anyone said that. You don't have to have kids, you know.


I don't have kids. And I can tell that the comments are aimed at "scroungers" but the thing is, people have children. If those people don't work, then someone has to pay, or those kids starve to death.


Of course, and the very idea of abandoning children without support is abhorrent. This planet can't support six billion people though, and we've got no other place to go right now, so it's time to really start considering long term options for managing our global population in a sustainable way. I don't know what those are, and I know China has tried and failed with appalling results, but we need to change mindsets away from the idea that population growth is vital for continuation of the species. It really isn't - in fact it's beginning to become the greatest threat to continuation of the species that there is.


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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.

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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.


Why, Mali?

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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.


Why, Mali?


Because the MO of such a scheme would mean choosing would would get to have children. Which is Eugenics. Which is wrong.

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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.


Why, Mali?


Because the MO of such a scheme would mean choosing would would get to have children. Which is Eugenics. Which is wrong.


Even if it meant that those children were more likely to survive?

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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.


Why, Mali?


Because the MO of such a scheme would mean choosing would would get to have children. Which is Eugenics. Which is wrong.


You could have a lottery.


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The idea of stopping people having children is abhorrant to me. As is any form of population control.


Why, Mali?


Because the MO of such a scheme would mean choosing would would get to have children. Which is Eugenics. Which is wrong.


Even if it meant that those children were more likely to survive?


Even if it meant that those children were more likely to survive.

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