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cheers, got it and the last piece I needed on that world. Ive got 5 pieces left, no doubt Ill be back in a minute moaning for more hints.

The demo of this looked (and played) very nice, right up to the point where it apparently locked the machine. Hmm.

Yes, that happened to me once. Very odd.

Remember what you found out about the jigsaw? You need to use it again.

Oh, and for world 4, look at the screen, assess how you would approach it in a standard platform fashion, then don't do that.

Yes, I'd kind of guessed that, but couldn't figure out how.

I'll give it another bash later.

Well combine my hint with Ace's and you're there.

I would prefer some hints rather than a complete walk-through, so I'll have another bash at some point (possibly not today) and see where I'm still stuck.
I'm sure some of them will probably click as soon as I have an idea what to do, and others I'll need to be walked through all the way.

I think I'll probably end up buying this now. The puzzles were fun, and whilst I flew through them (in your face, myoptika) on world 2 and the forwards/backwards level, there were a couple that took me a minute or two of puzzling, and they were often solved quite elegantly. I'm enjoying it more as I look back, so I think I'll take the plunge tonight, or something.

Ok, that was the first bit I really enjoyed. I was mentally composing my plea for help on the last level of world 3.
I was thinking of the first piece where you have to move the platform under the ladder and I thought and it just clicked.
It never even occurred to me before that

Anyway, I worked out the other piece on that level as well, so that's world 3 down. I'd better stop now and do some work.

Thanks to Mr Dave, I worked out hunt on world 4, so I'm getting there.

World 4 done.

Gamesmaster,

I need some hints for Braid world 5 as the gimmick is doing my head in.

Level 3, the piece behind the locked door above where you start. I can't figure out any way to get the key out of there.

Level 4, the piece above the door on the right. I've led the hedgehog-thing all the way over there, but I can't get enough bounce off him to get up there?

Ta very much.

Hang on momentarily while I go look at them...


Level 3
Really, really hard to think of a way to give a hint non-spoilery. Is the best I could do...


The solution, explained so as to make the world make more sense.


Level 4

2nd hint, a bit more poilery

And realllly spoilery

That would be an edit rather than a quote then. Anyway... it's there.

Thanks Dave, I managed to get it from your hints rather than the full solutions.

Whoops - I was going to reply to this yesterday, but it appears that I forgot.



It's about as relevant as "not being able to wear a T-shirt outside".

Come up with other restrictions people could put on T-shirts like the "We can effectively take it from you any time", "Can't lend", "Can't sell on" restrictions of Braid.

And then consider Braid represents an increase of 50% over the accepted price for a game for no clear budgetary or gameplay reason.

I've finished World 2 now and I managed to get another couple of pieces last night.

I'm starting to like it a bit more, I keep having moments of inspiration when I'm not even playing which was how I used to solve games in the pre-internet days. I think I've only got 4 left on world 6 now.

Edit - morning inspiration - 1 to go.


Ignore all this, I've done it now.

Ok, cry for help time. World 6-6 Elevator Action. Am I doing this right?



Unless the margin of error is really slim, I'm definitely missing something.

Further edit -

"Pay £10 for something that immediately becomes worthless" is a good'un.

You two should be in Grumpy Old Men 3.

Some of the comments regarding Braid and Blow (heh) on Joystiq are hilarious/interesting. Seems Mr Blow is doing himself a bit of harm by being so... vocal:

Finished. Well the main game anyway. I still need to look at the speed run achievement (beat all those set times for the levels I guess?) and there's still the matter of the , but I don't know if I'll bother with that.

No, it's not particularly worth 50% more than most of the other games on XBLAH, but it's fun while it lasts. Shame I can't trade it in.

I can't see me bothering, unless I really want my points-worth out the game

What doesn't?

Good god, it's hard to review this game without sounding totally pretentious!

I've struggled with this one but I've used it as an excuse to put a picture of Snoop on my site.

http://www.peoww.co.uk/reviews.shtml

I kinda think the point was for you to not do them. That they were a challenge left for people who had missed the point.

That's a good review, man. You avoid the whole 'this game changes everything' and just describe its points, while admitting that you're paying for a one-off experience.

Yeah, I agree, that's probably the best review I've read on Braid. Kudos.

blimey! thanks, chaps!

That Geometry Wars 2 review on the other hand - 'genomes'???

genormous they are.

hmmm... I shall investigate!

Right, I played the trial all the way through to give it a fair hearing. I quite like how the first picture (from World 2) is clearly of myoptika and Ange.

Some of the puzzles were rather clever (albeit revolving around getting the little angry head-men somewhere they can't normally reach so you can bounce on their heads as Tim, being A Bad Person, can't jump very high. He can sure scramble sideways along a trellis bloody quickly, though.

I did absolutely everything the demo allowed and left feeling intrigued but also certain that there's no way there's £10 worth of game in there. Yes, the backwards-forwards depending on which way you walk is cool, and I'm sure there are other tricks, but it seemed to be a bit like Portal - a wonderful idea that's really dead clever but there's only so much cleverness you can clever out before you run out (of clever) and at which point your game just has to end.

I just finished this with all 60 puzzle pieces.

It's a game, but as for the story I DON'T GET IT. YES, IN CAPS.

I mean, I like arty. I often don't see pretentiousness in places others claim to see it. But Braid? I don't get it.

So I was just linked to this. At first I was very much FUCK OFF, but he's actually quite convincing in the end.

Spoilers - don't read unless you've finished the game yo!

http://www.rllmukforum.com/index.php?showtopic=190136

EDIT: Short version of the spoiler

Just bought this today as I was bored.

Had a quick run through and traversed the worlds, solving anything that seemed interesting at the time, but largely just running around and having fun. Completed the first world easily enough, and got some pieces for all the other worlds. It's good fun, especially how it eases you in to each level by showing you the new 'gimmick'.

The...

... I found very annoying though. Not much fun.

Overall seems good, and doubtless I'll go back and finish it at some point.

I see what you did there!

Interesting post on it there, very interesting. I agree with him, and noticed a few references like it along the way.

Oh, and I finished it. It's taken me out of the bad mood I was in, so it's money well spent.

Interesting, Indeed.

really in the end its hard not to argue braid isnt art, ha cant wait for meaty angle.

Pretentious, overpriced, overrated, basically the same thing a million people did before?

Sounds like art to me.

Braid's a fine game. But Bionic Commando Rearmed is better and cheaper.

I'm hideously shit at that, but at 800 it might just be worth a punt, I really enjoyed my way through the demo.

And if Braid's stealing of time manipulation is "Original" then Bionic Commands stealing of "Platform game where you can't jump" from itself certainly is.

Braid is a wonderful game naysayers.

But I actually would recommend Bionic Commando over it - not because it's cheaper but because it is easily the best game I've played in the last 6 months. And thats including full priced disk games.

The demo is a bit tunk compared to the game, so if you liked that Duds you should really get it.



Indeed, it really pisses me off when I see people moan that you can't jump, not realising how FUCKING INTENTIONAL that decision is and how wonderfully fresh the game is because of it. Despite being 20 years old. GAH!

The 'games are art' thing is a slippery slope and one I don't intend to start sliding down, lest we attract a horde of New Games Journalists led by Gillen himself on a white steed.

I think it's funny that much of the discussion of it isn't so much about the game itself, but rather about:
-the prohibitive price tag, as people are quite rightly balking at paying £10 for something that won't last as many hours. Take away all your comparisons with other objects you might well pay £10 for (a round of drinks, a very nice lunch, etc etc) and just view it in the context of games - or indeed, other XBLA games.
-Jonathan Blow himself, and his constant whinging and bitching about M$ and the length of the trial (sure, make it longer... the apparently truncated version we have was still more than enough for me to glean as much fun as I think possible out of the game without buying it) and all the other hardships he's suffered.
-the ridiculously pretentious reactions of the reviews, with the infamous 'Braid will make you re-evaluate your entire life and also send you out to re-evaluate the lives of others such is its blah blah blah'

For now, I'm with the guy from those comments I posted earlier that it's Super Mario Bros, but with classical music, oh, and you have to stop every once and a while and complete a really easy jigsaw puzzle.