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PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 14:28 
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Or something.

I bought Prince of Persia: Classic on XBLAH pretty much as soon as I'd got my 360, but for some reason or other, only played the first couple of levels before moving onto other things.

Following on from our discussion of the PoP sequels the other day, I decided to give this another bash. I'm so glad I did! They've really done a good job of tarting up the original game (also fixing some of the controls, which makes it a tad easier). Just like the original, it'll have you grinning like a madman and gnashing your teeth in frustration in equal measures.

It also holds my record of longest time between achievements: THE IMMORTAL - unlocked 19/09/2007; SEVEN YEARS - 26/07/2008.

I suppose there are three avenues of discussion here - forgotten games, PoP:C and achievement gaps...

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I am notoriously bad at buying a game, playing that game, enjoying that game and then never playing it again.
This means I only really half-qualify to post this as I can't think of any examples where I've gone back to a game after not playing it for ages.

Prince of Persia:Classic is one of these games though, so I guess it counts.

Edit - I've thought of an example.

Due to some tactfully chosen days off work, I managed to nab myself a wii when they first came out (December 2006) even though I hadn't pre-ordered. I also grabbed myself a copy of Twilight Princess. I played it often and got up to what I think is the last but one level, then I just stopped. About 6 months later, I made a conscious effort to finish it, but I only got as far as finishing that level. A year later, and I still haven't bothered to set aside an afternoon just to finish that last level.


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I've just finished it now. It's amazing how quickly I've played through it today considering I'd only played it through a few times when I first bought it.

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Funny this, I have just gone back to PoP:WW being limited to Xbox games. I never actually finished it, and always had it on my todo list. It really is a good game!

Obviously, there are no achievements, but the last save I made was 30/6/2005!

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Aye, I never really understood the PoP:WW hate. I'd say the level design is quite a bit better than SoT, all in all. (Aside from the ship mast section. Grr, Nnngh and Argh)


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Aye, I never really understood the PoP:WW hate.

It's all nu-metal and that, needlessly and rather off-puttingly for many. Also, far more combat-focused.

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On one of the POP sequels probably the second one I got lost and did the same fucking acrobatic three times not knowing where to go, and that pissed me off more than anything, least sands of time was linear (ooooo fuck critics and devlopers hate that word) that I knew where I was going and it was planned masterfully that I couldnt give a shit. What masterful platforming, hang on its not linear lets criticise it and not criticise the latest mario. fucking hypocrite cunts. The bestgames are linear, stop giving me choices, if you can make a good storyline make it, dont let me spoil the fucker.


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Uncharted on the PS3 was one of the best games I've come across for that. If you got stuck in one location for a few minutes it would tell you to press R2 (I think) and then your man would look at what he was supposed to be doing, maybe a ladder to climb or a door to go through. Alone in the Dark took it a bit too far with the 'skip the level if you can't do it' thing, IMO.

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I didn't complete Thief, barely did two levels of Thief 2, and didn't get started with Thief:TDP.

Which is strange because I loved Thief. Sneaky sneak sneak! RUHH!! Waah!!

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I had a biggish gap on Dead Rising.


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I didn't complete Thief, barely did two levels of Thief 2, and didn't get started with Thief:TDP.

Which is strange because I loved Thief. Sneaky sneak sneak! RUHH!! Waah!!


Have you gone back to them now then?

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Fairly hefty gap on Forza. Only very recently did the ring time trial and race, having got most of my other achievements within a month of launch.


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I apologise for this in advance, but I have a confession to make. A couple of weeks ago I decided to play Metal Gear Solid again, having bought it years and years ago for the PSX and only getting as far as the first encounter with Vulcan Raven (when he's driving the tank) before getting bored. This time however, I thoroughly enjoyed it and played it fairly solidly (*chortle*) until the end. At which point, I went down to my local CeX and bought MGS2 & 3 for the PS2 for the princely sum of £8. I then proceeded to play MGS2 over the following weekend and last Monday when I took the day off work due to extreme tooth trauma and found that to be thoroughly enjoyable too (though my God does the cutscene before the final boss drone on).

MGS3, however, I can't seem to get my head around, so I've given it a bit of a break for now. I'm hoping this means my fall from grace from Dreamcast and Xbox champion to Sony stooge is not complete just yet.


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myoptika wrote:
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I didn't complete Thief, barely did two levels of Thief 2, and didn't get started with Thief:TDP.

Which is strange because I loved Thief. Sneaky sneak sneak! RUHH!! Waah!!


Have you gone back to them now then?


Every month I keep thinking I'll dig out the install discs from my parents' attic and do so, but, um, no. But I did remember!

ooh. I had a big gap with Forza too. Nearly a year, I think.

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... Twilight Princess. I played it often and got up to what I think is the last but one level, then I just stopped. About 6 months later, I made a conscious effort to finish it, but I only got as far as finishing that level. A year later, and I still haven't bothered to set aside an afternoon just to finish that last level.


I did this with Twilight Princess too. I got to what I think was the penultimate major dungeon (the windy one with all the cucoos or whatever the ugly things are called) and just stopped playing. I'm not sure if I was enjoying it, or playing it and willing myself to enjoy it.

Same with Majoras Mask, although I genuinely loved that game. I left halfway through the stone temple, but I did go back to a few years later it and get right up to the final battle. About 3 years ago. Really should go back and finish that off - and get the last few masks.

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I'm going through Hitman: Blood Money finally after playing only the first few levels when it came out. I've got silent assassin on the first four so far, with an awesome route for the one in the rehab clinic.

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Dead Rising is on around it's 10th break with me, I keep remembering how hateful it has made me feel in the past. But yet, I cannot part with it. One day I may play it again.

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with an awesome route for the one in the rehab clinic.

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Dead Rising is on around it's 10th break with me, I keep remembering how hateful it has made me feel in the past. But yet, I cannot part with it. One day I may play it again.


Very much agreed. I daren't touch it because just holding the case makes me quiver with rage, but I can't trade it in either.

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with an awesome route for the one in the rehab clinic.

You buggers :)

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Run up the path to the clinic, and go left around the building rather than through the main doors. Keep hugging the wall and you'll find a locked door. Pick it, and then pick the door right in front. Run to the right keeping against the wall, until you see a circuit box. Break it, then hide around the corner by the bin. Sedate the guard that comes to fix the circuit box, drag him to the bin, take his clothes and key, then stick him in the bin. Go into the door he came out of and grab the pass from his desk and the video from the machine. Run through the gated area to the medical wing, but stop just before you leave the corridor and hide in the corner. Look on your map to see when the seated orderly is alone in his chair. Climb through the window, sneak up to the orderly and sedate him. Shut the door to his right (sneak up to it), then drag the orderly around the corner to the clothes bin. Take his clothes and his key, then hide him in the bin. Go through the door you closed and down the stairs, the agent is in the second room from the far wall on the left hand side. Talk to him, then sedate him with the magic drug. Run back upstairs, change back into your guard uniform and run back into the house, up the stairs and into room "c". Run out onto the balcony and, if you've been quick, room "b" will be empty (if not, just wait). Go in, sabotage the gas canister then walk off the balcony - you should land right by your suit. Put in on and run to the morgue. Wait for the guard to walk away from the door, go in and revive the agent. Stand by the exit until the target blows himself up. Leave.
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with an awesome route for the one in the rehab clinic.


Yay!

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with an awesome route for the one in the rehab clinic.


They tried to make me play the rehab clinic.

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I need to play more TDU.

I was really enjoying it until I got distracted by other stuff.

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I keep seeing TDU but haven't bought it. It's recommended?

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Yes.

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I have a bunch of driving games I bought recently that I'll still probably ignore while fooling around with drifting in Forza, but I'm happy to read enthusiasm about another one. :)

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It's my single most favouritest game on the 360.

Not that it's not flawed in many exciting ways, but it aimed high and just about delivers something massively unique. It's a game where 1 game you just spend an hour driving around in your favourite car discovering new time trials and races, the next hour doing high speed races up freeways, the next hour stuck is tight, tiny country roads trying not to pick up too may time penalties yet still pass that speed camera at 82mph, the next taxi-ing women about to earn free clothes, the next shopping for houses to park your cars in, the next blating round the race track at the airport on a tuned bike, the next waiting for the rare classic car you ordered to arrive at the dealer and yet another hour doing a time trial round the whole of Hawaii BECAUSE YOU CAN. It's a game where you'll realise the car you want to drive is parked at another house 20 miles away and you won't care because you've got an Enzo and some of the most fantastic scenery in any game ever to drive down to get it.

It's NOT the best game ever, like I said there's a laundry list of flaws you'll discover or I'll explain but I'm not sure there's a game ever that's generated as much concentrated joy for the car lover.

And with your likely tastes, there's simply no excuse for you not to grab it, turn the driving aids off and just enjoy. Do be aware though that while the game can be had for under £10, there's another £15 or so of car packs that while not essential, you WILL want once you get into it.


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I don't mind spending if it's good. Thanks for the summary, it does sound very much my kind of thing. :)

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http://www.gametrailers.com/player/11708.html?type=wmv

(Hit the download button in the bottom right of the vid rather than let it try to stream.)

50MB of Test Drive Unlimited gameplay. In HD. Unfortunately with a drunk idiot behind the wheel but you'll see the Satnav system, some of the THOUSAND FUCKING MILES of road (obviously the crash barriers in this race are not there outside races) and the general look of the thing.


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I might have to dig TDU out again at some point.

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There's a TDU demo, isn't there?

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Yes but it's not a good indication of the game imo.


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I just need to find a copy. £17.99 seems ok.

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I just need to find a copy. £17.99 seems ok.

£7.99 is even better.

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Ooh. thanks. I did look on amazon but they had it at the hihger price on the main listing. £8.08 is a funny price still.

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Like I say, it IS flawed (the frame rate is occasionally just west of dire for a start) but I'm hoping and expecting you'll see past that to something you can really love.


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Yes but it's not a good indication of the game imo.


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TDU has the most excellent sense of location and belonging I've ever felt in a racing game.

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Yes but it's not a good indication of the game imo.


well does the driving change much because to me it was pretty shit.


You did of course turn all driving aids off right (not easy to do in the demo)


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Is the handling any different in the demo compared to the full game? I wasn't impressed with the demo car handling at all (I forget which car it was) and it initially put me off buying the full game. Glad it didn't though as it's a great game - I've probably driven more miles in it than in real life. Although that might be down to driving flash cars round Hawaii being a little more interesting than doing Stoke in an Astra.

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I ordered it along with a Beirut CD to get the free delivery. :kiss:

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Is the handling any different in the demo compared to the full game? I wasn't impressed with the demo car handling at all (I forget which car it was) and it initially put me off buying the full game. Glad it didn't though as it's a great game - I've probably driven more miles in it than in real life. Although that might be down to driving flash cars round Hawaii being a little more interesting than doing Stoke in an Astra.


I too was not massively impressed by the demo but I don't think it was specifically physics.


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I couldn't really get along with it, I found it too hard to see past the frequent-enough-to-be-annoying slideshow frame rates and dodgy physics. I bought it because of Dudley's constant spooging and really wanted to like it but just couldn't.


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I'd disagree both those complaints even exist so there you go.

EDIT : Obviously the frame rate isn't rock solid, but it's never slideshow unless you watch some very quick slideshows.


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Well yeah not slide show, but you aren't going to tell me that the car handling is great are you?


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I am. If you turn off driving aids it's just fine. Pretty close to PGR level imo.


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I did have the driving aids off though. I dunno, it just never grabbed me, it felt neither weighty, substantial and realistic nor fun and arcadey.


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I just got 'Bird Catcher' on Track and Field, ten and a half months after getting 'Fast Track'.

Also, is no one ever going to beat my javelin score (that's a rhetorical question as of course no one plays this anymore)?

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I will.

Play it that is, not beat your score.

Edit - Oh, right you go a lot faster if you waggle your stick. :hat:


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