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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 23:04 
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Dudley wrote:
Then as another example, the recent Thatcher thread on here.

Thatcher's in her eighties. Even if you don't buy into the idea that she destroyed people's lives while Prime Minister, her demise would hardly be considered a tragedy.

The Inquirer spammer story celebrated the death of a three-year-old.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 23:07 
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IMHO, some of the Maddie posts did indeed go too far, but no one said they were glad she was kidnapped, which would've been the equivalent of what that news story did.


Exactly. There's a very large and clear difference to me at least between making light of a story in the news involving death, and saying "Yes! Get in there! A small, innocent child was killed!"

The Maddie jokes, and general bad taste humour is about distancing bad things by the use of jokes. This wasn't meant to be funny at all, it was just someone glorying in that a small child had been murdered. It's extremely different.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 9:16 
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Ian Osborne wrote:
The Inquirer spammer story celebrated the death of a three-year-old.

It didn't, you know. It celebrated the death of the spammer.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:00 
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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 14:35 
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It didn't, you know. It celebrated the death of the spammer.

I'm afraid it did...
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NOT ALL STORIES have a happy ending, but the tale of escaped spam king Edward "Eddie" Davidson sure does. After walking away from prison, he got a gun, killed his family, then killed himself.

Happy ending ... killed his family - maybe it was clumsy wording on the hack's part, but the story definitely celebrated the death of his wife and kid too.

Oh, and what Plissken said as well.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 16:11 
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Ian Osborne wrote:
Dudley wrote:
Then as another example, the recent Thatcher thread on here.

Thatcher's in her eighties. Even if you don't buy into the idea that she destroyed people's lives while Prime Minister, her demise would hardly be considered a tragedy.


I doubt many here would curb their celebrations if she shot Carol and Mark before killing herself too.

The article was badly worded but did point out the kids and wife's death were a tragedy. And if he'd just killed himself most of the posts on here would be pretty happy I'd have thought.

Actually that article sorts of reads like it was written after he killed himself then swiftly edited after news that he took his family with him surfaced too.


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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 16:41 
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Ian Osborne wrote:
Grim... wrote:
It didn't, you know. It celebrated the death of the spammer.

I'm afraid it did...
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NOT ALL STORIES have a happy ending, but the tale of escaped spam king Edward "Eddie" Davidson sure does. After walking away from prison, he got a gun, killed his family, then killed himself.

Happy ending ... killed his family - maybe it was clumsy wording on the hack's part, but the story definitely celebrated the death of his wife and kid too.

Oh, and what Plissken said as well.


Well, clumsy wording, but the ending of that was "killed himself".

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 17:00 
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I think that's the kind of sophistry the writer is trying to employ to weasel out of being a big insensitive arse.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 17:21 
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Wouldn't have been so bad if they'd made a joke that was actually funny, or a clever pun maybe.

I love bad taste jokes, but there does need to be a joke element in there, not just a gloat.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 0:23 
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Really, duds? You can't see the difference between saying "hahahah spammer killed hisself" and "hahahahahha spammer killed his family then hisself"?


I don't agree with Duds, but he's not saying that. He's saying he can't see the difference between "hahahaahha spammer killed his family then hisself" and "hahahhaaa your 5 year old daughter was kidnapped, but we think you did it".


The jokes about that kid were also mostly a response to the fucking embarassing bullshit the media and the population at large were pulling, though. I actively avoided the news throughout that period but still heard about it fucking constantly, and I was moved to rant many times. If they hadn't banged on about it, I wouldn't have given a shit.

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 Post subject: Re: "Spam King" escapes from Prison
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I saw a car last week with "If you've seen Maddie, call this number".

Yes, Our Maddie was kidnapped in Foreign, and brought back to be held in a sheep shed in the Yorkshire Dales.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 9:13 
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I saw a car last week with "If you've seen Maddie, honk your horn".


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