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Full, ridiculous story here.



Jesus H Fudging Christ On A Stick.

Do they really think that ... No. No. Surely they don't. Someone was just out for a liquid lunch before the Times called. That must be it.

"I stabbed 'im bra. I stabbed 'im cos his duds told me too, innit." said an unrepentant Lacesensor, yesterday.

Ridiculousness of the story aside, that's a shit name for a pair of trainers. Airstab? Really?

I'm looking forward to the cheap copies: R-Stabers

Nice one, I was about to post 'shit stab more like'. Yours is better.

I once bought some Air Jordans. I spent the next two months obsessed with a small middle eastern monarchy. And I don't even want to think about the mess I got into after I got those Hush Puppies. Ick.

I'd like to see an 'Air Stab' performed in real life. I'd say it's a manual up a quarter pipe, leading to a one-handed 360 spin on the lip of the pipe, during which the skater does a midair splits, extending his sneaker blades and slices the air in a circular motion.

rad.

Isn't it that move in Conan where you jump at an enemy and plunge down at them, sword first?

It's still horrible crassness on behalf of Nike.

I await the Nike Rape trainers with interest...

Haha, fabulously misfiring marketing idea, there.

Really - what a stupidly not-very-thought-out name. And a rubbish name, too.

What about stuff that's made out of goretex? The fiends!

I'm getting closer to a murderous rampage every day. It doesn't help that I've just started watching Dexter, which I like very much. I can identify with this man.

What? No it isn't. It's short for "stability".

Maybe we should ban the sale of the Blade films lest the use of a word related to knives and stabbings causes people to go off and kill someone. Or upsets a victim.

We should also rename "stab vests", as that's just asking for trouble. "Fluffy Anti-Nastiness Vests" would do.

I think the fact that people have been stabbed because of or for their trainers adds a lovely extra layer of stupidity to the name in this case, though.

If it's actually written and sold as 'stab', then there is no way on earth it was not intended to mean stab.

There's a world of difference between it and the examples you quoted.

I assume you would have no problem with them releasing Nike Murder or Nike Rape?

I'd always assumed that was an urban myth, never having so much as met anyone who's met anyone who's met anyone who knows of someone who that happened to. I appreciat eI may be entirely wrong here, of course.

I always used to get weirded out by the trainers chucked over telegraph wires in American cities. Brrrr.

I disagree, as the meaning related to sharp objects would be monumentally meaningless when related to trainers. But so what if it did?



There really isn't. They're words associated with knife crime too, aren't they? So they're clearly insensitive and/or will encourage stabby knifey death.



Of course I wouldn't. What with the name of someone's trainer not hitherto being known as a causitive factor in any crime in the history of the universe.

And If I objected to it on sensitivity grounds I'd have to be against rude t-shirts, which would be counter to male nature.

I hope they're now going to ban rapeseed oil, because otherwise rapists might use it to lube up their victims.

I'd nice a nice pink pair of Nike Paedos.

And Speedos! OMG! And they wear them in swimming pools, near children!

WILL SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!

It happens depressingly often.

http://gangsinlondon.blogspot.com/2008/ ... iners.html

A kid at my half-brother's school in Alperton was stabbed because for his trainers. (Not the same incident where a kid was stabbed to death outside the gates of the same school (rough school, eh?).

Oooh, heavens. Unpleasant then.

Still - if the trainers had been called "Shiv Me Ups", I suspect it wouldn't have made things worse.

Oooh - what about the Moto Razr? People get mugged for their phones, too. And Razrs have blades and that.

Sorry, I just think that of all the things that Crimestoppers and Outraged From Tunbridge Wells could have been getting up in arms about this should have been bottom of the list.

I reckon they'd catch on in Glasgow.
My mate was talking about them last night, I thought he was having me on.

They should also ban Jacob's crackers in case they actually have crack in them.

Is that why you had your Jacobs removed?

It just seems crass to me, as I said. It's like something directly out of 'Jennifer Government' or the like.

"Hmmm... knife crime is on the rise, with a high number of dead teenage victims, often from not the nicest areas... coincidentally the same as the target market of our new shoes... let's market them as STAB!"

Meh. Well. One man's crass is another man's stand up comic.

Incidentally, we don't know knife crime is on the rise, as they only started recording "knife crime" as a discrete category in the last year. And this week was the first time such figures have been released.

"Because this is the first time we have such data this says nothing about the trend in such crime," said the Home Office's Scientific Advisor Paul Wiles.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUKL1754092020080717

Although of course the media would have us believe that, as with TERRORIZTZ and PAEDOFIDDLERS, there is a knife wielding hoodie under every bed and it's getting worse and WORSE AND WORSE because the government isn't doing the decent thing and cracking down on single mothers, porn and video games.

And this alleged knife crime epidemic is rapidly becoming the accepted truth, as with the imigrants who are stealing our NHS.

I have heard several reports this week that knife crime is steadily declining. But don't get too cheery, folks, because gun crime is more than filling the void.

Reports the other day suggested that overall crime was down, whilst violent and fatal crime were very much on the increase. I think they have stopped referring to anything under armed robbery as crime now

Actually, living in the area that I do, I do think that this is thoroughly stupid, un-thought out marketing, if not just crass and completely ignorant. The people at Nike are stupid, or just very unthoughtful.

I think that the media is succesfully increasing the fear of crime and I hate them for it.

Also the airstab trainers link in with a nice that when it stabs something it injects a ball of freezing cold air into that thing.

I say thing because it's a divers knife that works underwater and is to protect you from sharks and such.

Nevertheless the media found out about it, and are screaming about how it will be used by 'gangs' - making it of course attractive to gangs, where before it was carrying on quite nicely as a knife for divers.

The cunts.

I live in Nottingham, which is supposedly very bad for knife and gun crime.

I haven't been stabbed/shot; no one I know has been stabbed/shot (obviously touching a complete forest of wood here). I'm not concerned about it until it happens.

Frankly, looking out of the window here would increase the fear of crime.

In the space of one week at either the end of last year or beginning of this, there was a man shot to death, two young men stabbed and two policemen shot, all on the short 100 yard road where I live. I think the media quite accurately reflects many of the pockets of the community around areas such as parts of Brent, and what is reported is the sort of stuff that goes on around here depressingly often. Actually, i always wonder why more of the stories around here aren't reported because I do not think that people know the half of it.

Two policemen being shot wasn't reported on the news, the nightclub owner shot in his own club wasn't on teh news, the people being shot at around here every couple of days aren't reported. My friend' neighbour (lived on the floor above her) was shot in the head for telling off another neighbours kid. Another of her neighbours was shot at through teh window whilst she did the washing up.

I know that not everyone lives in an area like that, but I think that a lot of people need to wake up a bit more to those areas existing. the crime isn't in 'my' community - I am an unlikely target, but I don't bury my head in the sand about the problem, because a lot of the people that ARE involved are the kids that are now at school with my brothers - their peers and friends. My older brother was almost dragged into this about ten years ago, so his dad had to take him away and so moved to Cheltenham to escape it, otherwise my brother's life could have taken a very different part.

I'm not frightened, but I am not stupid, and I know it is best to be astute and stay out of trouble.

So, yeah, the stuff reported on the media happens here all of the time, and I do think it is a real issue. if you don't have postcodes sprayed onto walls to mark out boundaries, then that's all good, but some areas are like that.

I'm not arguing that there isn't crime.

I'm just suggesting that the media's representation of it bares little reference to the actual situation.

That and I think that the media's portrayal of crime, increases the glamour and kudos attached to such crime. The blood is on their hands as it were.

And not to belittle your experiences, it is anecdotal* and so can't be indicative of anything.

In the same way that I've lived in the scummiest parts of London, Leeds and Nottingham, and I've been fine, doesn't make those areas safe.

Either way I think the media has a very real responsibilty for the situation society finds itself in.

We've created a world where children can't leave the house because we think they'll immediately get raped by 20 paedophiles, so they either stay inside & get obese, or they still leave the house and then when they have nothing to do, so hang around, we are all scared that they might mug and kill us.

*and very real of course.

regarding violent crime (which we are talking about, I have no idea about the paedophilia thing) I really, really disagree with you.

I thin the current media representation of youth and gang violence very much reflects the area where I live.

Sure, many (most) people will not have this experience, and will happily go about their lives never seeing this on their doorsteps - but should we dampen down the seriousness of the pockets of violence in the country because most people do not live there. these are the communities and issues that need the most help - raise the awareness, some of those kids do need to wake up not only to what they are doing but what might quite possibly happen to them.

What I say is not just anecdotal - all of the incidents I mentioned can be found hidden away on the BBC site. or at least they were - I don't think the BBC deletes stories, does it? Either way, I want what goes on in this area reported - in fact I want it reported more so that people in cosy communities can wake the hell up to what people in certain parts of the country have to live amongst.

As I say, I am not scared, I am not a target for this violence and I don't have any disagreements with people, but the community around here is about to implode if something isn't done soon, so yeah - report it and make people wake the hell up to it, and maybe something will be done.

I'm not saying there isn't crime, but I'm saying that the media's version which can be summed up as:

KNIFE KILLERS EVERYWHERE
TERRORISTS EVERYWHERE
PAEDOPHILES EVERYWHERE

Isn't the same as what you are facing. A region a/effected(?) by lots of violent crime. I also think that the style of the medias reporting is fueling the crime in question.

And to be a tease, you said that stuff wasn't in the news, and then you said it was

But I'm really tired and grumpy, and I'm pretty sure I'm not making my point very well. But basically I'm saying there are three problems.

A crime problem.
A fear of crime problem.
And a social problem.

Which the media has not insignificant responsibility for. Thats all.

I was just linking this in because AirStab was withdrawn because the diving knife had been discovered by the media who decided to make it a big deal. Even though no one else had.

The only good to come from the hysterical reaction and promotion of knife crime by the media is that the Government has made a real issue their 'number one priority' again rather than the nebulous enemy that is The Terrorists.

No, I didn't.

I said it wasn't reported on the news, and it wasn't. It wasn't a news story, it was hidden away so deep and so mind bogglingly insignificant on the BBC website because nobody could be arsed writing about it. Two days after it happened I searched and searched and searched to find a single line, perhaps two. This? This is a loooong article.

See, for years and years and years this stuff was buried. 95% of it still is, and I do not think that people outside of these areas know the half of it.

Actually, I feel very strongly about this because it affects the people I know, it affects my brothers. I have said it before, but my little brother wasn' even two years old when some git hit him in the leg with an air rifle. Not exactly an execution style shooting, I know, but what sick bastard fires anything at a one year old child. Do you know what the police did about it? Fuck all. Took teh piece of metal out of his leg at the hospital, police put it in a bag and 'lost' it. The media always states that these crimes happen in certain areas, usually of main cities. I actually think that most people are ignorant of the situation, through no fault of their own, but really - if you lived here you'd feel differently.



Everyone around here says that the stuff that happens here needs more attention, but I guess you have to be amongst it to see it. maybe if you are not then you cannot see the situation in the same way.

God damn it, I want my globalised consumerist mega-corps crass and evil, like in the old days. None of this callow capitulation to PC nazis and yoghurt weavers.

Look, you made me swear.

!

Gosh, I rarely feel this fed up.

grrrrr

Anyone would think that people attack each other simply because they want to attack each other for one reason or another, and the mere existence of knives or guns has nothing at all to do with it....

Over half of all violent crime is jaffa cake related.

Most fraud, too.

nope.

fraud is wagon wheels.

Sorry Mimi I didn't mean to upset you.

But I think my point stands, it's just I'm just to knackered and sleepy to articulate it well. I don't think anything of what I'm saying actually disagrees with you either.

I'm trying to say that the media is letting you down. Because where you are living is abnormal, and needs to be treated as such, but the media is more interested in the pantomime that the details.

There isn't a uk wide knife epidemic, there is multiple, local, small scale* violence that is independent and needs to be treated as such.

But yeah, I'm sorry I upset you, and I'll leave this till I can make my points clearer.

* as in lots of geographically small regions where it happens, rather than small scale because it features a water pistol.

You didn't upset me at all, Lave!

IT upsets me. The problem.

I just hate the way the world works for some people. I'm just worried for the world my brothers are growing up in, and which my little nephew will be growing up into in the future.

Sorry, I didn't mean it to seem I was angry with YOU, hehe, silly boy.

Well, to make up for it, I think Skeptobot might just be about to get linked on Fark* - and if it does, then hopefully some of them will flow over to your lovely site.

*it keeps getting hit from TotalFark.com/greenlit which is where the stories go before they are launched apparently. I dunno - as I don't read the site.

Not unless legally compelled to.

LOL I just nearly spat out some chocolate raisins im nibbling at that.