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Author:  MrChris [ Sun Nov 13, 2016 23:17 ]
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Nothing so far, z. Have been busy with other things. I have a super awesome new chainsaw tho.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:21 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
These little bastards are the best toy ever.

They really are but definitely a lot more fun with some sort of track to race round.

Here's my edit quick edit from yesterday...

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:01 ]
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Why isn't this thread flooded with gushing nerds demanding to know how to get their sweaty little mitts on their own?

Baffling.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:11 ]
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Kids today, you can't tear them away from their screens. Not even to stand in a freezing cold field, looking at another screen.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:23 ]
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We should set up a camera pointed at us to get the full extent of 'the leans' and near falls as we're stood on the embankment laughing like freaks.

Author:  MrChris [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:23 ]
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What are these particular flying things you're using?

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:26 ]
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I'm not telling you. You'll just nod along and then buy a fucking chainsaw or some shit.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:29 ]
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Seriously they're just race quads. Not much point going into depth as it changes by the week so the stuff I put in these a few months ago is probably obsolete by now.

A good and popular RTF at the moment is a Shuriken 180. But you'll still need other stuff like a transmitter, video goggles/screen and charger and batteries.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:30 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
We should set up a camera pointed at us to get the full extent of 'the leans' and near falls as we're stood on the embankment laughing like freaks.

Whenever I watch those videos back I find myself leaning forwards as though to try and speed up.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:34 ]
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If anyone saw us from the promenade they'd think we were off our faces.

Yeah, I still get my lean on when looking at the videos :DD

FASTER AND LOWER :metul:

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 14, 2016 14:36 ]
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Properly nearly fell forwards down the sand bank yesterday.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 13:41 ]
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I'm watching Drone Racing League on Sky. It's really good!

Author:  markg [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 14:55 ]
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I'd be interested to see it. So far most "serious" racing I've seen with them has ended up being a bit of a mess of difficulties with video feeds or a lot of races where every competitor crashes out until there's just one left doing slow laps. Do they show the live video or is it edited together from the on board HD recording cams?

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 14:58 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I'm watching Drone Racing League on Sky. It's really good!


Yes, it is!

It is mixture of FPS and third person. Looks amazing.

Author:  markg [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 16:46 ]
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Good fun racing this morning until Zardoz crashed into a mud hazard. Do they have mud hazards on the thing on Sky or is it not that advanced?

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 17:11 ]
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markg wrote:
Good fun racing this morning until Zardoz crashed into a mud hazard. Do they have mud hazards on the thing on Sky or is it not that advanced?


It had a ufo, a tractor beam and a ribcage.

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun Nov 20, 2016 22:43 ]
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markg wrote:
Good fun racing this morning until Zardoz crashed into a mud hazard. Do they have mud hazards on the thing on Sky or is it not that advanced?

Looks like it's ok after a rise and blast dry. Popped that loose wire back into the VTX but I'll leave it until tomorrow before I fire it back up.

Been looking at those Hornet Wings. Look highly like a next purchase.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:39 ]
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I gave my son one of my RC cars recently, a 2wd Tamiya buggy and he absolutely loves it. I asked my daughter if she'd like to have a buggy too so they could play together and while she enjoyed it she wasn't that bothered until I said, "you can get all sorts of other cars, I could even make an Ice cream van".

She was very struck on this idea so I've got myself a bit of a project on now.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 13:41 ]
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She'd probably love one of those Hornet racing wings for Christmas.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 14:24 ]
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Absolutely.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 21, 2016 14:33 ]
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And a Horizon A-10.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:43 ]
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Yesterday morning's shenanigans. Nice flying and outstanding crashing from Zardoz:



These mini quads can really take a beating.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:50 ]
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I'm thinking about getting The Grimlet a quad for Christmas. Are there any reasonably-priced ones that are easy to fly (for a nine year-old) and virtually indestructible?

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 14:52 ]
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There's loads. Is it for The Grimlet or "for The Grimlet"?

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 15:00 ]
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A little from column A...

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 15:04 ]
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Half price at Argos, there's this one:

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/4086910

Which is made of foam and uses ducted fans but it has a built in battery so it's five minutes of fun then half an hour of waiting.

This is a smaller but better one, again it uses ducted fans:

https://www.modelsport.co.uk/blade-indu ... cts/394323

And you can buy extra batteries for a couple of quid each.

No cameras on either of those, though if that's what you're after.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 15:11 ]
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Nice flying/filming there Mark.

Did quite a bit of walking yesterday. :D Glad everything was brought home in one piece.

...apart from my flying stool!!!

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 28, 2016 15:25 ]
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markg wrote:
Half price at Argos, there's this one:

http://www.argos.co.uk/product/4086910

Which is made of foam and uses ducted fans but it has a built in battery so it's five minutes of fun then half an hour of waiting.

That looks hardy as fuck, though. Ta!

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:10 ]
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It's perhaps hard to appreciate how insanely good this is unless you've tried to fly one of these things but fucking hell this kid can fly:



Young lad from the UK, I think he's only about 16 and this is a final of some race against the best in the world. You see his opponents for all of about two seconds at the start of the race :DD

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:14 ]
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8)
Bloody hell! That's insane.

Where/what the frig is that place?

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:24 ]
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I'd have enough trouble just figuring out where the bloody course was, let alone be able to fly around it.

Author:  Jem [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:44 ]
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Olly has asked for a remote control car for Christmas. Anyone got any recommendations for one that's going to be easy enough for a 4 year old to use, sturdy enough that it won't break the first time he smashes it into a wall, and cheap enough that I won't have to remortgage my house to buy it?

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 10:48 ]
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Would it be for indoor / outdoor use, Jem?

These are pretty good for little folk:

https://www.wirelessmadness.com/carrera ... r-ca162060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSiPq02KV-E

No good if you want to use on grass etc though.

Edit: There's another one they do that's a bit more suitable for rougher ground, cheaper too:
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/toys/nintendo- ... 0wodjbgPPQ

Author:  Jem [ Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:43 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Would it be for indoor / outdoor use, Jem?

These are pretty good for little folk:

https://www.wirelessmadness.com/carrera ... r-ca162060

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSiPq02KV-E

No good if you want to use on grass etc though.

Edit: There's another one they do that's a bit more suitable for rougher ground, cheaper too:
http://www.toysrus.co.uk/toys/nintendo- ... 0wodjbgPPQ


Brilliant, that's perfect. Cheers :kiss:

Author:  markg [ Tue Dec 06, 2016 14:29 ]
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Definitely going to try making one of these 3D printed planes:

https://3dlabprint.com/shop/zivko-edge- ... h-replica/

Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 28, 2016 13:08 ]
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My 3D printed P38 is coming along well. It really is just like building a massive Airfix kit:

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Quite satisfying to have made it all from scratch, ok so a robot did most of the work. But I had to tell it what to do and swear when I told it the wrong things so it still counts.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:56 ]
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All the parts are now printed so I started doing a bit of work with some silver car wheel paint from a rattle can and then just a brush and some acrylics:

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Got most of the bits to fit inside, it needs a lot of gubbins to fly this one, though. Two motors, two batteries, two ESCs, possibly two receivers, three servoless retracts and nine servos. Should keep me busy for a few evenings.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:33 ]
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Looking good!

Why might it need two receivers?

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:37 ]
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He's set it up using twelve channels which would mean using two Frsky Rxs linked together or at least some sort of SBUS device. There's two servos for rudder, two for elevator, two for the flaps, two ailerons, throttle and the three retracts. Although I'm not sure why he's not just used a y-lead for some of these. It should really only need six channels.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:48 ]
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Ah right.

Yeah, I imagine it'd be much simpler (and cheaper) to set up with Y leads, if there's enough internal space down the inside of the booms.

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:01 ]
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I think though that you would need to reverse some of the servos, which you can do by opening them up and swapping some wires around. I dunno it's a faff either way, just depends if you prefer faffing around programming a radio or with a soldering iron.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:04 ]
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markg wrote:
I think though that you would need to reverse some of the servos, which you can do by opening them up and swapping some wires around. I dunno it's a faff either way, just depends if you prefer faffing around programming a radio or with a soldering iron.

[possible stupid question alert]
Couldn't you turn them upside down?

Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:11 ]
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No it's a very sensible question because that's exactly what you'd normally do and I might still be able do that. But from what I've seen the way this is designed the printed bowden type pushrod runs don't really make that very easy at all. If it was balsa or foam you'd just hack bits out and make it work but this type of construction makes that sort of thing less easy.

I guess he didn't fancy making two separate files for the left and right fuselages but rather just mirrored them or maybe he only realised after he'd finished. There are one or two very minor areas where it's apparent that although he's a brilliantly talented CAD engineer he is perhaps less experienced with building RC stuff.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:20 ]
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Turn the entire fuselage section upside down ;)

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 23:30 ]
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First flight of the year (after first crash of the year).



Not sure how I missed the post at 1:12 :D

Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 0:54 ]
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Goes a fair old clip!

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:03 ]
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Yeah, feels very fast flying them FPV.

Hard to keep up with Mark at times because he fitted a lag switch to mine.

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:18 ]
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That's the only thing that annoys me about the Phantom 4 I've got - in "Sport" mode it's capable of speeds of 44mph, but the horizon always stays level in the video view thanks to the gimbal, so it doesn't "feel" right.

Doesn't seem to be a way of turning it off either.

Author:  markg [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:32 ]
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Could you do it manually by unplugging the motors and mechanically fixing it somehow? Either way I'm not sure I'd want to risk stuffing a Phantom 4. These little things take some terrible abuse and normally just bust a prop if that. Just sell it and buy a mini quad, they're loads more fun.

Just been watching my video from that morning, still had my camera rolling for when Z crashed his mini quad into the ground and his subsequent analysis of what went wrong, "I went too low". Yup :DD

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:37 ]
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Didn't help that the ground was high either.

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