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Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 14, 2014 23:33 ]
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Have you got an un-fucked-about-with one from the old setup for comparison?
Author:  markg [ Wed Oct 15, 2014 6:29 ]
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Author:  markg [ Thu Oct 16, 2014 15:38 ]
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Crashed my mini-quad earlier, only its third flight too :'(



All my own fault, I just lost orientation through the goggles, gave it wrong stick to try to recover then decided it was definitely going in so cut the power, then caught a glimpse of the ground and tried to punch it and power out of it but it was too late.

Damage wasn't too bad though, considering it went in from a good height. Snapped three of the props and wrecked one motor but the parts for these little things are so cheap that it's only a fiver or so to fix.
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Oct 28, 2014 14:44 ]
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Mark! Gaz!

Do this!

http://i.imgur.com/vq49ecB.jpg
Author:  markg [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:03 ]
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Another day another quadcopter crash. :'( (not on film though sadly, apparently if you are violent enough with a GoPro it won't write the last few seconds back to the SD card).

I'd just got my main quadcopter working perfectly, gimbal all tuned pretty well and had this nice flight at sunset:



Seconds after the end of that it all fell silent and I had to watch helplessly through the goggles as sky filled the view and it hit the sand and pebbles hard, quadcopters don't glide at all. I trudged down the beach to find it. When I got there the poor thing was laid on it's back, all four props smashed, bits of its guts lying around, the battery folded in half but still connected and the camera gimbal sans camera twitching pitifully, I felt strangely sad for it for a moment.

All told though it could have been a lot worse, had it gone in the salt water it would have been pretty much a total loss. The GoPro is fine, as are all the other main components really, the frame is ok too apart from some bent arms, even the gimbal seems functional, it'll all mend. But I'm just not sure what caused it. I'm going with possible RF interference from the tower but my radio gear is getting on a bit and much better, more resilient systems are available these days.

This, though, is why you are a dickhead if you go flying these things over crowds or busy areas.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:23 ]
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Should it not default to a hover mode if it loses signal?
Author:  markg [ Fri Nov 07, 2014 12:03 ]
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Yeah, or even fly back and land where they took off from. I have one like that sat on the bench but not in this quad. Most of those autopilot equipped ones don't have the very good manual flying characteristics I'm after, they just aren't as fun to fly, you sort of nudge them around the sky rather than actually flying them.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 10:27 ]
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Drone Boning may be about porn, but they visit some really beautiful locations:

NSFW http://www.droneboning.com/ NSFW
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Nov 20, 2014 21:55 ]
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They didn't bone a single drone! Not like Mark.
Author:  markg [ Sat Nov 29, 2014 21:06 ]
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I'm really bumming this little 250 quad. Stepped up the prop pitch done some more tuning angled the camera upwards and it's feeling pretty perfect. Just need to make zardoz build one now for some racing action.
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 29, 2014 21:08 ]
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Cor, look at it go. Any idea how fast it is?
Author:  markg [ Sat Nov 29, 2014 22:41 ]
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No idea really, probably not a huge number of mph but it feels really fast and the feeling of speed multiplies the lower you go.

I think this is probably the most fun RC thing I've ever had. Most crashes only bust a fifty pence prop or two or really big crashes might break one of the seven pound motors.
Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Nov 29, 2014 23:50 ]
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You should buy me one for Christmas.
Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 14:25 ]
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Too much fun this little thing:
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 15:27 ]
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Cool.

That's one thing that I do miss about my Phantom, the gimbal means that you don't really get the "speed demon" effect with the camera view rolling around all the time.

I've got a little Hubsan X4 with the FPV camera on it, I need to work out if I can record the video from that somehow - I seem to remember talk of it having an SD card built in to it but I can't see one.
Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 15:32 ]
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Just put another camera on your Phantom, or better yet build a 250 quad, they're dirt cheap.
Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 15:36 ]
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Look at this cunt go:



Pretty sure I couldn't ever fly like that even with enough spare time.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 16:24 ]
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How much for everything then including video gear?
Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 16:44 ]
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This is more or less what I've got apart from the FPV gear:

frame £23.39:

http://www.banggood.com/H250-ZMR250-250 ... 33185.html

motors (x4 two cw two ccw) £24

http://www.banggood.com/ZMR-1804-2400KV ... 23424.html

esc (x4) £22

http://www.banggood.com/Emax-Simonk-Ser ... 18126.html

flight controller £16

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... ouse_.html

cheap fpv set £64

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... _PNF_.html

I have goggles though rather than that screen in a box but those are meant to work really, really well. Also I do have a spare set of goggles so you'd just need a VTx and a camera to get started. I haven't listed the Mobius camera that I'm using for recording there either because it's not really essential, though it is pretty fun to watch flights back. They're about £40.

There's a few other bits like batteries and props and a control receiver but they're cheap and disposable.

Also once you've got the FPV gear you'd be able to drop it into one of your planes as well.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 17:07 ]
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About £150 then... That'll be my next project I guess.
Need to sell more t-shirts.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 17:29 ]
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Do you need to hook up all the gubbins to a pc to configure it all?
Author:  markg [ Wed Dec 03, 2014 17:42 ]
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It uses this cross-platform tool:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... figk?hl=en

You just need to install some drivers but there's Mac ones.
Author:  markg [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 16:45 ]
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I finally got around to mending my main quadcopter and fitted the fancy flight controller with all the autopilot stuff, so if I lose signal it should fly itself home.

The results of the first test flight proved that something about my setup was sub-optimal:



It's a US-made flight controller and it turns out that Americans do motor numbering schemes for quadcopters just about as sensibly as they do short date formats.

With repairs made (again) and the motors connected to the right inputs I had another quick go and tested out the Return To Home feature at lunchtime today:



Also shows pretty nicely just how much work that brushless gimbal is doing.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 17:07 ]
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How do you tell it where "home" is? Is it the last place it was powered down for a certain amount of time?
Author:  markg [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 17:10 ]
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It's wherever you power it up or else you can go into the menus and reset it to the current location.
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 17:12 ]
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If it's anything like mine, it records the "home" position using GPS co-ordinates as soon as it has a GPS fix.

Some then have a button on the controller that tells it to record a new home position using the current GPS location.

The new DJI one uses the position of the controller as the home location, so it will always return back to the operator.
Author:  Grim... [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 17:27 ]
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GazChap wrote:
The new DJI one uses the position of the controller as the home location, so it will always return back to the operator.

Hide the controller in your friend's car for a jape.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Jan 05, 2015 21:55 ]
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GazChap wrote:
If it's anything like mine, it records the "home" position using GPS co-ordinates as soon as it has a GPS fix.

Some then have a button on the controller that tells it to record a new home position using the current GPS location.

The new DJI one uses the position of the controller as the home location, so it will always return back to the operator.

Didn't your first quad get its direction for home off E.T.?
Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:45 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
GazChap wrote:
If it's anything like mine, it records the "home" position using GPS co-ordinates as soon as it has a GPS fix.

Some then have a button on the controller that tells it to record a new home position using the current GPS location.

The new DJI one uses the position of the controller as the home location, so it will always return back to the operator.

Didn't your first quad get its direction for home off E.T.?

:DD

(in all seriousness, no - it transpired that it didn't get a home location at all because dickweed here didn't read the instructions properly)
Author:  markg [ Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:21 ]
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I wonder if it got a fix as it was flying and then fucked off in the direction of the Gulf Of Guinea? It certainly seemed to be going somewhere.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 13:01 ]
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Landing RC stuff on the ground is dull. What you want to do is build an Avengers-style RC flying aircraft carrier then land RC planes on that...
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 14:38 ]
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That's pretty cool :)
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 14:49 ]
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That's plenty cool :)
Author:  Dr Lave [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 16:05 ]
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I've decided my plan for this year is to build that 250 quad thing from the previous page.

I wants one so bad.
Author:  markg [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 16:33 ]
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You really should, they're super fun and I reckon that if it's FPV anyone used to playing FPS shooters on twin sticks can adapt to flying them pretty quickly.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 17:22 ]
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Keep forgetting those bits at your house. Maybe ok weather on Sunday for some RC action, I'll grab them off you then if that's alright.
Author:  Dr Lave [ Thu Jan 15, 2015 17:27 ]
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markg wrote:
You really should, they're super fun and I reckon that if it's FPV anyone used to playing FPS shooters on twin sticks can adapt to flying them pretty quickly.


Coool. Hope you don't mind if I bug you for advice along the line.
Author:  markg [ Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:56 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Keep forgetting those bits at your house. Maybe ok weather on Sunday for some RC action, I'll grab them off you then if that's alright.

Yeah, Sunday looks pretty decent.
Author:  markg [ Fri Jan 16, 2015 9:57 ]
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Dr Lave wrote:
markg wrote:
You really should, they're super fun and I reckon that if it's FPV anyone used to playing FPS shooters on twin sticks can adapt to flying them pretty quickly.


Coool. Hope you don't mind if I bug you for advice along the line.

Not at all.
Author:  markg [ Wed Apr 22, 2015 9:44 ]
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I think GazChap has been giving lessons:
Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 15:16 ]
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Had an enjoyable couple of lunchtimes playing out with Zardoz this week. Also had a bit of time to do some more work on the mini-quad, a bit of tuning (still needs a bit of work, yaw could be quicker, there's some oscillations on the hard stops and a tiny amount of bounceback in pitch and roll, almost there though) and also angled the cameras up quite a lot more so that I can fly faster and still see where I'm going. It's the most fun thing to fly.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 15:27 ]
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What's the beeping?
Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 23, 2015 15:31 ]
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It's a low voltage alarm, but the voltage sags as you draw more power, so if you punch the throttle it can beep even though there's actually quite a bit of juice left.
Author:  Grim... [ Tue Apr 28, 2015 17:25 ]
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Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:23 ]
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have you seen this?
Author:  markg [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 12:39 ]
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Heh, no but I had thought about trying it. Back when I had my MX-5 too.
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Apr 29, 2015 13:23 ]
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I'd like to think I'd be good at that.

And hey, at least it'd be a car that I'd be crashing and not a multirotor.
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri May 01, 2015 8:00 ]
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It would be great having a quad set up to fly slightly ahead of you giving you a feed of the road for hooning down country lanes.
Author:  Jem [ Wed May 13, 2015 13:46 ]
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This looks interesting > https://www.lily.camera/
Author:  Grim... [ Wed May 13, 2015 13:50 ]
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Holy crap, yeah it does.
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