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Author:  markg [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 18:26 ]
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GazChap wrote:
That's awesome. If you're not listening to Ride of the Valkyries or similar while flying, I don't know what's going on.

Is it much harder to fly one of those? Specifically, to land it without breaking anything?

It's harder to fly than your Phantom quadcopter is so far as that will fly itself, but in terms of difficulty and fragility compared with other RC planes it's not too bad, it should be reasonably stable and the foam construction is quite tough, but it would still break if you landed it badly, though.

Author:  markg [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 18:27 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
That looks excellent, didn't expect it to be so detailed.

Neither did I to be honest, really happy with how it looks. I just hope it still looks as nice after the first flight.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 19:45 ]
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That looks beautiful.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Nov 07, 2013 22:39 ]
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I didn't realise there was another electric SE5A knocking around - I thought the only option was the (admittedly lovely looking, and not too spenny) Parkzone one.

That one you've got there looks lubberly.

Author:  markg [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:31 ]
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Yeah I looked at the Parkzone offering too and checked out a few videos, it just doesn't have the same presence somehow. Also I know it's accurate but I hate the scheme they've done with the roundels way inboard on the top wing. Makes it look all wrong.

Author:  markg [ Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:57 ]
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Oh, one thing about the Durafly one that I got is that the Chinese designers (inadvertently I think) based it on a 7/8th scale SE5A replica, they even went and modelled the replica's flat four engine and slightly longer nose which was necessary due to the modern power plant's lighter weight. I can't say it bothers me at all as I just wanted a stand-off scale WWI type thing but if someone really knew their old planes then I guess it might upset them.

Author:  markg [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 18:05 ]
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Video of a couple of flights from this afternoon. The quality is a bit crappy because this is just recorded on the ground from the video link:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HIH2bIg2TQ

Author:  TheVision [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 19:03 ]
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It's just like playing Wings on the Amiga! Brilliant.

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun Nov 10, 2013 23:13 ]
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That's superb having the camera swivelling on another channel.

Author:  markg [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 8:29 ]
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It's loads of fun to fly, so different from the quadcopter. Once I got the CG sorted it's not too much of a handful either, but it needs to be flown all the time, not one for the beginner.

Author:  GazChap [ Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:29 ]
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markg wrote:
not one for the beginner.

Damn ;)

Author:  markg [ Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:29 ]
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Had a few more flights with this the other day, so much fun. I also knocked up a better dashboard to replace the sticker that came with it which was based on the modern instruments found in the replica it's based on. I probably should have spent longer than 20 minutes though as I'm not too happy with it.


Author:  Squirt [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 11:24 ]
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I know it's just an odd optical stroboscopic illusion, but every time the propeller appeared to slow tight down and stop I was thinking "Oh no! It's going to crash! Ahhhhh!"

Author:  markg [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 20:22 ]
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Exciting quadcopter montage from over the weekend. Night flying (camera makes it look a lot brighter than it was), a massive Spitfire on a stick, a crash into a beach and some Zardart:


Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Nov 26, 2013 21:08 ]
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Excellent, the dusk shots are really nice. Need to fly it down the main Freeport 'street' next time :)

Author:  GazChap [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 0:18 ]
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Awesome. What camera are you using? The GoPro I've got on mine is terrible at night :(

Author:  markg [ Wed Nov 27, 2013 7:16 ]
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It's just the Hero 3 Black. Apparently some white balance and frame rate settings will work better at night but for that I hadn't touched it since the last time I used it in daylight. The FPV camera pretty much turns night into day though, it's quite freaky.

Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 23:13 ]
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I didn't mention about me killing my Hubsan putting the n00b guard on did I?

Anyway, I stuck it on the wrong way (not quite a square so had it 90º off :belm: Took it off and pulled two motors out with it! :belm: just so happened the wires came out from inside the motors rather than off the PCB >:(

Ordered two more cheap ones from Banggood and other bits... and they were the wrong size :belm: :'(

Bought the right ones from Wireless Madness today and fixed the fucker! :metul:

But melted the case slightly as my new butane soldering iron has an exhaust vent at the side.

:DD Punkocopter!!!!

Author:  markg [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 23:22 ]
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Excellent work. Yeah, you need to watch the exhaust on those soldering irons.

Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Dec 07, 2013 23:30 ]
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Lessons learned tonight.

Chuffed I managed to solder such a fiddly thing though. Getting better at this stuff now.

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 15:29 ]
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This Hubsan FPV quad will apparently work with my existing video goggles:

http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/quadco ... pter-h107d

I think I owe it to myself to get a pre-Christmas present.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 15:50 ]
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I bought my brother one of those Stingray RC boats for Christmas and found out his girlfriend has bought him one (and a hubsan quad). I was pissed off until Mrs Z said 'why don't you keep it then?' . So I am. :metul:

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 15:51 ]
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Could do with a 1:10 trailer though now for my cars to take my boat out with.

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 16:08 ]
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My daughter just bought me one of those quadcopters for Christmas. :metul:

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 16:13 ]
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How thoughtful!

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 12, 2013 16:14 ]
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I hope she'll let me test it out to avoid disappointment on Christmas morning.

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:13 ]
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Wow, that arrived quick. Just gave it a quick test, it's amazing! I'll be able to sit there with the goggles plugged into the telly and fly it all around the house and stuff. FOV is a bit narrow though so it could do with a wider angle lens, but apparently people have had a lot of success with just using one of those ones you can buy off ebay to stick onto a smartphone camera.

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:46 ]
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Any pics, Mark? Tempted myself but dunno if my existing vTX will fit on it? Or does it have space for it?

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 11:58 ]
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The camera and VTx are already built in and it uses some of the same frequencies as ImmersionRC/FatShark stuff uses. You just switch it on, put the original dipole antenna back on and your goggles will tune straight into it. That link up there is to just the quadcopter, I can't remember if you already have one of the Hubsan quads but if not then you'll also need a control transmitter like this :

http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/rc-con ... er-h203-16

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:03 ]
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Yeah, I've got the original X4, so thats covered.

The original link you posted has on it: "There is no transmitter included! For the X4 with the FPV tranmsitter see here: http://www.firstpersonview.co.uk/multic ... ransmitter" which made me think it didn't include the VTx (because they list a separate product including an FPV transmitter).

I take it that's not right, then, and that it's actually the control TX that isn't included?

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:04 ]
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Oh I see - they mean a control transmitter with an FPV display on it.

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:09 ]
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Yeah, alls you need is the quad itself. Your batteries from the X4 will work too.

Author:  GazChap [ Fri Dec 13, 2013 12:10 ]
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Ordered :)

Tempted by the Phantom 2 as well - 20 min flight time even with a gimbal and camera attached!

Author:  GazChap [ Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:44 ]
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Fuckin' hell, they *do* ship quickly, don't they? Just arrived, charging now!

Author:  BikNorton [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 13:09 ]
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During the slow rotations on the beach, esspecially around that solar powered light with ladder cage, my brain kept looking for the C4 logo to appear.

All looks like a lot of fun.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 14:45 ]
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How close to the transmission limits is the AV headset stuff? It'd have to be fairly powerful to work at long distances.

Author:  markg [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 15:32 ]
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Technically the legal limit is 25mW, 250mW is workable with decent antennae.

Author:  Grim... [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 15:42 ]
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So, technically, you need some kind of license?

Author:  GazChap [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 15:48 ]
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600mW is quite common too, I think?

Author:  markg [ Sun Dec 15, 2013 16:11 ]
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Grim... wrote:
So, technically, you need some kind of license?

Technically you can't really do it, but it's all under negotiation.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 19:50 ]
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After adding the fpv kit, how much more load can one take?

Author:  markg [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 20:16 ]
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You could build one to carry anything really.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 20:55 ]
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I ordered a Phantom 2 the other day. 20 minute flight times even with the camera and gimbal - yes please!

Anyone want to buy my Phantom 1? ;)

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 21:05 ]
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£12

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 21:36 ]
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Is that the one that ended up in the quarry?

£9. Final offer.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 23:25 ]
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£5 and some sort of comment under your forum name.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Dec 19, 2013 23:40 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Is that the one that ended up in the quarry?

£9. Final offer.

:P Technically no, as all of the components ended up being replaced :P

Author:  Wullie [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 10:40 ]
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I'll buy it for £2 a month over a period of 1 month.

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:33 ]
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I've just put new motors on my main quadcopter, smoother, better quality ones. So this means I now have enough spare bits in the box to make a whole other quadcopter. So I think I'll put together something small, light, overpowered, fast and robust that uses cheap props that I won't cry when I break. A beater of a thing that I can just fly for fun.

Author:  markg [ Fri Dec 20, 2013 14:51 ]
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Bought this frame from Deal Extreme for a whole £12:

http://dx.com/p/hj-x-mode-mwc-alien-mul ... ack-193525

This stuff is getting so cheap now.

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