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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 15:36 
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It depends what you want out of it then really. I.C. motors have the singular advantage that you don't need to worry about recharging batteries. But batteries are pretty cheap now and the run times quite long. Personally I don't think there's really a lot to recommend about a noisy, temperamental little engine that's just going to irritate anyone within earshot. In addition if you decide you want to start tuning it to see how fast you can make it go then it's a lot easier and cheaper with electric stuff. But yeah, all depends how much you want to spend too. Hobby King have some fairly decent stuff for reasonable money.

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There’s a smaller, cheaper one. I’ll post a link when I’m back near a computer.

Whoops, forgot about this.

Here's the little one: http://www.flyzano.com/

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It depends what you want out of it then really. I.C. motors have the singular advantage that you don't need to worry about recharging batteries. But batteries are pretty cheap now and the run times quite long. Personally I don't think there's really a lot to recommend about a noisy, temperamental little engine that's just going to irritate anyone within earshot. In addition if you decide you want to start tuning it to see how fast you can make it go then it's a lot easier and cheaper with electric stuff. But yeah, all depends how much you want to spend too. Hobby King have some fairly decent stuff for reasonable money.


The last time I ran a car it was a Schumacher Cat. I used to be absolutely engrossed in them, simply because they were so much fun to build and modify. I've had some wicked cars in the past.. Tamiya Astute, Kyosho Corvette (Nitro). However, it's literally been more than twenty years and man things have changed.

So, I would appreciate some RMD on a car. Ideally I would like a buggy or a truck because the allure of the sand is great. However, a rally car with tyres that will go over the sand would probably be the best. Just seen a Tamiya Ford Capri that really got me wanting.

Also. Controls. I used to use Futaba? I don't like those controls with the wheel on them I want something with two sticks.

Can some one RMD me a controls set with servos please? Battery may be the best. I used to use Parma and Parma Cyclone motors.. I'm assuming that by law you can not buy the jet fuel itself by post due to the nature of it so I would need a few batteries too. So RMD on those too please because I would strongly imagine things have changed since my Parma quick drop days.

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I've got that Capri ;)

If it's sand you want to run on mostly you'd be better off with a 2wd or 4wd buggy rather than a rally car. If you go for 1:8 rather than 1:10 scale there's more choice of sand tyres (sand paws) that are good on dry sand.

From what I've seen these days when we've been out electric cars are being ran while half the time nitro cars are being faffed about with getting going.

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This might be a good starting point, JC. Everything to get going and you can always upgrade away. Comes with wheel rather than stick though. http://www.rossmod.co.uk/ftx-viper-sand ... AqS08P8HAQ

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Thanks chap. I assume I can just buy a different set of controls and switch out the crystals?

You never know I may grow to like them though.

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Here's the brushless: http://www.rossmod.co.uk/ftx-viper-rtr- ... AqBS8P8HAQ

Crystals?! Go for 2.4ghz set mate. Biggest change in RC along with LiPo power.

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Not had any problems with HK gear but there are Futaba and Spektrum varieties if you want to spend more: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... stems.html

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Here's the brushless: http://www.rossmod.co.uk/ftx-viper-rtr- ... AqBS8P8HAQ

Crystals?! Go for 2.4ghz set mate. Biggest change in RC along with LiPo power.


Ooooh I see, crystals are gone. Probably a good thing really. I don't miss losing control over my car.

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Curse you for making me look at more cars... and planes!

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Yeah I got a horrible feeling that like computers one isn't going to be enough :s

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I have 4 cars, 4 planes, and almost 2 quadcopters so far...

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Well I need to be careful because we've got a one bedroom flat. Now granted, it's an enormous one bedroom flat (bigger square feet than my mother's 3 bed house) but yes, one bedroom flat.

I'm still tossing up what I want. At the back of our beach is a path about 12ft wide that's newly paved and runs for about four miles, so an on roader would work just as well (it's dead down here).

I've seen a couple of Nitro Mustangs and love the look, though I would need to find a local supplier for the fuel...

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Go for electric. Much easier to find a supplier :)

Would be a good idea to have a chat with those local RCers though.

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Well now it's getting tough. They still do Vanessa's Lunch Box and the Midnight Pumpkin.

I mean sure they're kinda plastic but man they do half rip with a Cyclone in them. I love how they both look too. Plus they're the same underneath so I could get a couple of body shells..

Not sure yet if I want something so basic but I do remember having much LOLs with them. In fact the only thing I can think of that was more fun was my Wild Willy. They still do those, too :D What used to be the most excellent was the availability of the parts.

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Zardoz, need some assistance.

I've decided that for now I am going to go with a Tamiya Vanessa's Lunchbox. I can get the entire kit with battery and controls etc for £149. Now, what I want to do is put a much faster motor in there but tbh I have no idea whatsoever what to look for. As I mentioned previously, I used to use Parma Cylones in my old cars.

I'm perfectly happy with the car and the plastic nature as I can get all of the important A frame parts as replacements for less than a tenner. What I do want to do however is give it more balls. I will also need a couple of spare batteries and a fast charger, so any advice will be warmly received.

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I'd get the kit only for £89ish.

Then you want a brushless motor and esc around £50

Servo £8 and whatever controller and receiver you like £15-?

Couple of LiPo batteries and a charger £30.

Leave it with me and I'll send you links.

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Oh and a ball bearing set too £8. Tamiya only give you brass / plastic bushings in most of their kits for some bizarre reason.

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I'd get the kit only for £89ish.

Then you want a brushless motor and esc around £50

Servo £8 and whatever controller and receiver you like £15-?

Couple of LiPo batteries and a charger £30.

Leave it with me and I'll send you links.



Wicked thanks ! yeah I already spotted the ball race kit dude, got one in my wish list :D I'm just not sure on the batteries or controls.. BTW I would like a sealed electronic speed controller. I really hated the ones that looked like the inside of a scalextrix controller !

Ed. I don't mind paying out for a good, quick motor. Say £50 tops? I want it to be fast :)

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Sky's the limit with regards to price, that's just what I spent on my Tamiya Dt-02 buggy. It's plenty for a car that size, believe me.

Oh and the ESC would be sealed, the mechanical type are relics now, Grandad :D

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Here are links to the extra bits you'll need for a Lunchbox kit, JC.

Sensored ESC and Motor combo (this one should give you good balance of speed/torque for a 2wd monster truck): http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... duct=22599

Servo (only need one for steering as ESC isn't mechanical):
http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... 09sec.html
(you can get cheaper ones but this is all metal gears, quick and strong)

Transmitter & receiver (newer one than mine, with more features):
http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... ystem.html

All the above are from Hobbykings international warehouse so might take a few weeks to arrive and you run the 20% tax gauntlet... Ive nearly always got away with it though. Still much cheaper than buying from UK.

Bearing set:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-Lunch- ... 0768594964


Good link here (great forum for everything RC car related) for Lunchboxs and Pumpkins: http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/topic/15574 ... ners-club/

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Well I have seen a kit on Fleabay for this...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/T27AM2S-Remot ... 4d255fc995

Can I connect this to it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tamiya-45057- ... 540300f687

For the motor I found this.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321751250834? ... EBIDX%3AIT

Would that work too? I really don't want to order from overseas.

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Hobby King have a UK warehouse as well e.g. the motor and ESC:

http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... ouse_.html

I really wouldn't bother with 27MHz gear, it's just rubbish compared to the new 2.4GHz stuff. This one even has telemetry so you can get readouts of the battery voltage, rpm and temperature:

http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... ouse_.html


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Is that all I need other than the car and battery/charger? Edit and the servo too?

Can you suggest any batteries and a quick charger too?

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For batteries it's really a case of getting the ones that'll physically fit best in the battery bay. It's usually easiest to just copy someone else's setup for cars like Tamiyas where there's a lot of them about.

Not sure on chargers as it's not something I've needed to buy lately, a lot of them are DC only though like this:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... ouse_.html

which means you also need a suitable 12V power supply. You can buy something like this:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/stor ... ouse_.html

Or if you've any PC PSUs knocking about then they can often be ideal for the job with a bit of tweaking, sometimes just needing a resistor across some terminals.

Also, whatever else you do be really careful with LiPo batteries, assume that they might just burst into flames at any point during charging. Unlike in other applications such as laptops and whatnot they are not in such a controlled environment with protection circuits etc so any mistake in the settings on the charger can easily cause a fire. Basically don't leave them charging unattended and get one of the special fire proof bags to put them in.


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OK well I phoned a place in Worthing which is somewhat local to me (around 15 miles). He said that all Tamiya cars now come with an ESC as standard.

Given how utterly fucking confused this is all making me I have decided to go down to this place and basically buy everything there. That way I can just ask the guy to pile up everything I need and leave the store with it all.

The motor I will get on Ebay as he doesn't have any but the rest is all in stock :)

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Sussex Model Centre? That place is pretty big I think, they also sell a lot online so their prices should be pretty reasonable.


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Yeah that's the one :) Going down on Friday.

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Yeah, Tamiya kits will come with an ESC but most of them will only work with brushed motors.

Anyway, you shunned my links above so thrrrrrrrrppppppppp!

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Hobbyking have a sale on for the next few days on car related stuff. Got myself the sensored brushless combo I linked above for £36 & postage. I'll be getting my Capri running as a touring car and get my Toyota Trueno set up as a drifter again.

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Bought some more props for my Corsair Funfighter. Different size and supposed to give longer flight times at the expense of speed (thank fuck :D) and very importantly they're supposed to be less brittle so fingers crossed I don't break them so often.

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I've now decided on what I'm gonna get.

Nissan Titan Nismo racing truck.

It's £50 more than the lunchbox but it looks amazing. Much newer design. Comes with the ESC too for sure. Got a few other bits lined up I will post it all on Friday after I've made sure everything is ordered :)

Really excited about this. It will get me out of the house more (even if it's alone lol) and I'll have miles and miles of sand to race it on :D

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Zardoz wrote:
Bought some more props for my Corsair Funfighter. Different size and supposed to give longer flight times at the expense of speed (thank fuck :D)

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Bought some more props for my Corsair Funfighter. Different size and supposed to give longer flight times at the expense of speed (thank fuck :D)

Probably the best way to increase your flight times would be to stop crashing it into the ground all the time.


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How quick is Hobbyking's shipping? tempted to tget 2 of these before we go on holiday on Friday...

http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... _RTR_.html

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Make sure you get them from the UK warehouse:

http://www.hobbyking.co.uk/hobbyking/st ... ouse_.html

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Where else is good for RC car stuff at reasonable prices?

I'm a tiny bit nervous about buying anything other than Tamiya, but I guess these days parts are avaiable for everything, right?

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Spares can be an issue but the worst that happens is that you'll be left with a wait for parts from their international warehouse. However in terms of value for money for something to just thrash around I think there's no contest. Tamiyas are more expensive to buy and then you still need to throw away the silly old brushed motors and ESCs they come with.


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Bought some more props for my Corsair Funfighter. Different size and supposed to give longer flight times at the expense of speed (thank fuck :D)

Probably the best way to increase your flight times would be to stop crashing it into the ground all the time.

Whatever, bushwhacker.

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Spares can be an issue but the worst that happens is that you'll be left with a wait for parts from their international warehouse. However in terms of value for money for something to just thrash around I think there's no contest. Tamiyas are more expensive to buy and then you still need to throw away the silly old brushed motors and ESCs they come with.

They are lovely to build, but yes I wouldn't buy another Tamiya off roader. Those Quanum Vandals give far mor bang for the book.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that... and now cars!
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 12:26 
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What's wrong with Tamiya ESCS Mark?

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that... and now cars!
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Nothing as long as the ones they use now will do brushless motors.


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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that... and now cars!
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And Tamiya battery connectors are shite too.

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 Post subject: Re: Radio controlled aeroplanes, and that... and now cars!
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 17:20 
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markg wrote:
Nothing as long as the ones they use now will do brushless motors.


Ugh. Well, at least it will run as is and I can pick up another ESC at a later date and fit the motor I'm ordering then.

The car comes ball raced so I don't have to worry about that :)

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So the glue with the plain white tube which I thought was the foam glue that came with one of my planes was actually just one part of a two part epoxy resin. That'll be why it didn't work then.

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Well, the saltwater from last year clearly fucked all of the metal bits in the Tamiya chassis (TT01 from memory. Or TL01. Something like that). Yay. The old TA01 chassis also needs a new motor mount so I can't use that. AND it looks like the waterproof ESC wasn't. Or at least didn't like salt water.

Need to find a new RC car now...

And not drive it through sea water.

Current potentials are:

http://modelhobby.co.uk/store/product/W ... ggy--Green
http://www.jemodels.com/index.php?app=g ... X-FTX5512O
http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/1248_1_16299.html

The third one I may just pick up from Antics tomorrow morning after I pick up the 1:1 scale car from the garage. Although I suspect I'll get told off.

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1st two are very cheap but only 1:12. Might struggle on rough ground? Third one looks good but only brushed motor.

I'd suggest you get a Quanum Vandal from hobby king along with a brushless motor and ESC combo (would be roughly £100). Bags of fun and really take some hammer.

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