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Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Wed Mar 13, 2024 4:19 ]
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Archie and Fletcher were born to do this too.
Author:  Trooper [ Sat Mar 23, 2024 19:59 ]
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Last competition of the winter season today, a double Frostbite. 80cm target shot from 30m.

It was ridiculous, freezing cold, high winds, rain, hail! I spent most of the time trying to work out how to keep my arrow on the rest without it getting blown off by the wind. Must have drawn and let down 3 times for each shot, so I'm exhausted!

Still fun though, mostly because of everyone constantly moaning how shit it was...

My PB is 273/360 for that round... Today I shot a 164 and a 229...

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Author:  TheVision [ Sat Mar 23, 2024 22:54 ]
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**Makes notes that if I'm going to attack Trooper and stand a chance of defeating him, wait until the weather is bad**
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Sun Mar 24, 2024 22:46 ]
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There's some weird focussing and blurring in those photos
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Mar 24, 2024 23:34 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
There's some weird focussing and blurring in those photos


Yeah, probably some weird mode I left on by accident
Author:  GazChap [ Sun Mar 31, 2024 23:14 ]
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In excellently coincidental news, the estate in which I now live on is named Archery Fields.
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 01, 2024 15:52 ]
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First proper shoot with the new bow on Sunday. 40lb draw up from 32lb, it's a bit of a difference!
Managed to shoot a full session and get a fair few golds at 30yds though, so bodes well. 50yd 252 score is the next challenge.
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Apr 01, 2024 16:38 ]
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That's 36 arrows that need to score 7+, right?
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 01, 2024 16:42 ]
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GazChap wrote:
That's 36 arrows that need to score 7+, right?


Correct, done as the first shoot of the day. Do it twice and you get a badge and move up to the next distance.
5 zone scoring, so yellow is 9, red is 7, blue is 5, black is 3, white is 1
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Apr 01, 2024 16:45 ]
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Sounds like a decent challenge, good luck with it!
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 01, 2024 20:01 ]
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Got my 40yd 252 at the first attempt, the 30yd took a fair few tries though. So no idea how the 50yd will go.
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 10:28 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Got my 40yd 252 at the first attempt, the 30yd took a fair few tries though. So no idea how the 50yd will go.

It'll go TWANG
Author:  Trooper [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:16 ]
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It's more of a THONK with the new carbon riser
Author:  Squirt [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:28 ]
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Possibly dumb question, but is the distance the only thing that changes? Same target, scoring etc?
Author:  Trooper [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 12:42 ]
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Squirt wrote:
Possibly dumb question, but is the distance the only thing that changes? Same target, scoring etc?


Not a dumb question!

The distance, target size, target face, scoring etc... all changes.

Take a look at my indoor season for example:
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The Frostbite was 30m, 80cm sized target using 10 zone scoring (X,10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1. Compared to 5 zone scoring which I mentioned in another post. 9,7,5,3,1)
Vegas triple face is 20yds, 40cm sized target, 10 zone scoring but on 3 individual targets that only go from 10 down to 6. 1 arrow in each target, if you miss at least the 6 you get a zero score.
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Portsmouth is 20yds, 60cm target, 10 zone scoring (but no x)
WA18 is 18m, 40cm target, 10 zone scoring
Worcester is 20yds, 40cm target, black and white target face with only 5 scoring zones.
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For outdoor stuff it gets more and more complex!
https://www.burtonbridgearchers.co.uk/a ... ry/rounds/ is good example fo the type of stuff you shoot.
Author:  Trooper [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 19:01 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Got my 40yd 252 at the first attempt, the 30yd took a fair few tries though. So no idea how the 50yd will go.


232, was on track first half then shit the bed in the second half. Next time though...
Author:  GazChap [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 20:12 ]
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That's still pretty damned good! Nice work.
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 02, 2024 22:29 ]
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Damn Troops, you're in deep
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Apr 10, 2024 16:38 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Last competition of the winter season today, a double Frostbite. 80cm target shot from 30m.

It was ridiculous, freezing cold, high winds, rain, hail! I spent most of the time trying to work out how to keep my arrow on the rest without it getting blown off by the wind. Must have drawn and let down 3 times for each shot, so I'm exhausted!

Still fun though, mostly because of everyone constantly moaning how shit it was...

My PB is 273/360 for that round... Today I shot a 164 and a 229...



...and it turns out that was still good enough for second in class :D
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Apr 10, 2024 17:00 ]
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Woo! Nice one, mate.

I paid the fee for the beginners course that I'm starting soon -- 6 weeks starting May 14th. Eek!
Author:  Trooper [ Wed Apr 10, 2024 20:59 ]
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Good luck! If I can help with anything, don't hesitate to ask
Author:  Trooper [ Sun Apr 21, 2024 22:09 ]
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Busy day out there today, most people we've had in a session for a long time.

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First time shooting at 60m, mine are the arrows with the white wrap. Pretty happy with that!
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Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 15:12 ]
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Stop the press! Archery club winter league results just in!

Frostbite : I came 7th out of 19 participants
Worcester : 3rd out of 5
Portsmouth : 3rd out of 8
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 15:32 ]
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Decent, do you get a medal for the bronze positions or are they not those kinda competitions?
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 15:41 ]
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No, but I do get badges for getting over a certain score
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 16:05 ]
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Sounds very Scout-y ;)
Author:  Trooper [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 16:21 ]
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It absolutely is :D

Got to have badges on your quiver, to strike fear into the hearts of your enemy archers when you are on the competition line.
Author:  GazChap [ Mon Apr 22, 2024 18:37 ]
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:D
Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 02, 2024 0:15 ]
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New bow is taking some time to settle into, so the obvious thing to do is buy another bow! English Longbow this time, off to buy one next weekend with a couple of folks from the archery club :D

I did come first in the Novice category for the Bedfordshire vs Northamptonshire Frostbite competition though.
Author:  GazChap [ Thu May 02, 2024 9:13 ]
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Let me know if you no longer need any of your 'beginner' bows... ;)
Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 02, 2024 11:35 ]
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I definitely have a riser and limbs I don't need any more, it's the bow I brought to the cottage...
Author:  GazChap [ Thu May 02, 2024 12:31 ]
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'ow much? I'm not starting the course until May 14th so I probably won't need one until after then, but good to start thinking about these things...
Author:  Trooper [ Thu May 02, 2024 17:04 ]
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GazChap wrote:
'ow much? I'm not starting the course until May 14th so I probably won't need one until after then, but good to start thinking about these things...


Good question, probably around 150 for the riser, started limbs, button, string, rest etc...

But you really need to make sure you can use it, which you won't know until you do your course :) it's a 25 inch riser with long limbs at 22lb, so it all depends on your draw length and other stuff which you will find out about!
Author:  Warhead [ Thu May 02, 2024 22:53 ]
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I think we need a jargon buster on this thread.
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri May 03, 2024 0:19 ]
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I recently watched the mythbusters epsisode(s) where they investigated the 'splitting an arrow clean through with another arrow' (I never watched this show until my kids recently sowed an interest, so now we are working through them as a family).

Anyway, at one point they got a professional archer in and he was clearly kitted out with great gear and was stunningly accurate and precise, super smooth. However, he was drawing the string back with this little handheld gadgety tool that could clip on and 'hold' the string until a little button was pressed to release the string. I dunno what it was called, it looked neatly clever and helpful but also to my inexperienced and untrained eyes it looked a little.... cheaty or cheap. What's the view on those things amongst people that actually know what they are doing and aren't just some guy lazily watching TV and (like me) judging things they know nothing about?
Author:  Trooper [ Fri May 03, 2024 8:50 ]
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Warhead wrote:
I think we need a jargon buster on this thread.


Riser (the bit you hold)
Limbs (stick on the top and bottom and do the bendy springy bit)
string (string)
rest (the bit you put on your riser to stop the arrow falling off when you are trying to shoot it)
arrows (the bits that stick into stuff)
stringer (big black dude is surprisngly english you learn in later years)
other stringer (the thing you use to put your string on your bow)
tab (protects your fingers from the string cutting them in half)
armguard (protects your arm from the string cutting it in half)
arrow puller (to get your arrows out of the target)
bow stand (so you don't get it dirty)
sight (for cheats who can't handle barebow)
finger sling (so you don't drop your bow after you shoot)
stabiliser rod (sticks out the end for some reason, I guess I'll find out one day)
plunger button (no idea reallym, apparently it helps the arrow fly straight, but who knows how)
quiver (somewhere other than the target to put your arrows)
bag (to put it all in)
Author:  Trooper [ Fri May 03, 2024 8:52 ]
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Sir Taxalot wrote:
I recently watched the mythbusters epsisode(s) where they investigated the 'splitting an arrow clean through with another arrow' (I never watched this show until my kids recently sowed an interest, so now we are working through them as a family).

Anyway, at one point they got a professional archer in and he was clearly kitted out with great gear and was stunningly accurate and precise, super smooth. However, he was drawing the string back with this little handheld gadgety tool that could clip on and 'hold' the string until a little button was pressed to release the string. I dunno what it was called, it looked neatly clever and helpful but also to my inexperienced and untrained eyes it looked a little.... cheaty or cheap. What's the view on those things amongst people that actually know what they are doing and aren't just some guy lazily watching TV and (like me) judging things they know nothing about?


Mechanical release, used with compound bows as they are higher poundage. You'll destroy the nerves on your fingers without one.
Depending on your point of view, compound bows are either the pinacle of bow engineering, or point and shoot for cheaters :D Magnified scope, cam system so there is little weight to hold at full draw, mechanical release you you don't have to worry about that part of your shot etc...
Author:  Squirt [ Fri May 03, 2024 8:55 ]
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Well that's why you've gone for a longbow, right? Take it right back to basics, proper old-school!
Author:  Trooper [ Sun May 05, 2024 13:34 ]
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Bling!
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