Alone in the Dark

Blucey · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1811

RuySan wrote:

i kinda liked AvP. On the other hand, i hated alien 3. Stupid CGI spolied the movie.

I'm literally a stupid fanboy when it comes to all things Alien. Alien3 would have been amazing if it wasn't for the shit alien. Stupid CGI is right...

I loved Alien Resurrection, up until the newborn. Horrible. But until then it was amazing. Ron Perlman takes everything up a notch. Brilliant casting there.

AvP. Hmmm... awful in the cinema, tolerable on DVD but hated nearly everyone in it. Especially the heroine. 'The enemy of my enemy...' FUCK OFF.

AvP2 genuinely is the worst thing I've ever seen and that includes the 45 mins I sat through of Nurse Betty. It's just so unbelievably hatefully poor on every level. EVERY level.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:48

Alien³ was fantastic, you silly bunch - probably the best thing Fincher has done except for Se7en and Fight Club. ARes was some silly fun, with the added bonus of letting us speculate that Ripely might have been pregnant with Clemens's kid when she died.
AvP was bad, but all the nice fanboy touches made it entertaining at least twice. AvP2 was much better.

There's talk of Weaver playing Ripely again - please God let it be a film version of The Female War.

Dimrill · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 1:50

Yeah Silent Hill. Didn't scare me, but I love the old creature effects and slime level. Barkertastic.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 8:50

Mr Chris wrote:

Oh, and Silent Hill was great. Sean Bean didn't die, though, thus breaking a trend.

*looks* I could have sworn I introduced this board/Bistro/WoS to the Sean Bean Always Dies concept, and I could have sworn you were the person arguing that no, he doesn't. Hmm!

Grim... wrote:

Alien³ was fantastic, you silly bunch - probably the best thing Fincher has done except for Se7en and Fight Club.

I really like all the first three Aliens, and really wish they'd left it there, they formed a very fitting trilogy, I thought. As for Fincher - erm, well he's only done three other films. Panic Room (not seen), The Game (good, but not as good as the above), and Zodiac (which I loved, found very unnerving in places, and which is deffo better than Se7en).

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Goddess Jasmine wrote:

myoptika wrote:

Curiosity wrote:

I am enjoying the trend of large, interesting game reviews that are appearing on this site.

Please continue.

There's loads that you just can't see yet. Hurry up, Gaywood! *shakes fist impotently*

I think he's waiting for me, but then I'm waiting for Craster and Devilman to do stuff too!

Are the reviews ready to go on the site? If so I can put them up this week, just wasn't sure if they were ready and just being dumped into their own section or put on gradually so they each had their own front page mention?

Anyway, time this got sorted I think!

*cracks whip*

I want to do another one too, Played Arknoid DS last night.

My GOD that needs a slaughtering, along, ideally, with the entire dev team and their pets.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

CUS wrote:

Mr Chris wrote:

Oh, and Silent Hill was great. Sean Bean didn't die, though, thus breaking a trend.

*looks* I could have sworn I introduced this board/Bistro/WoS to the Sean Bean Always Dies concept, and I could have sworn you were the person arguing that no, he doesn't. Hmm!

Nope, your recollection is slightly faulty there! I've always maintained that he always dies. Even in that awful film about Sheffield Wendesday FeetBalls team, where he didn't (I believe - haven't watched it, obv.)

I remember weighing in on your side in that argument, but can't remember who it was who was denying the existence of the Death Of Bean Syndrome. It was a mad fool of some stripe, though.

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Grim... wrote:

Alien³ was fantastic, you silly bunch - probably the best thing Fincher has done except for Se7en and Fight Club.

I really like all the first three Aliens, and really wish they'd left it there, they formed a very fitting trilogy, I thought.

I quite liked three. The ensemble of British character actors was quite pleasing.

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Panic Room (not seen),

Despite Jodie Foster, this is worth a watch. Forrrrressssst Whittakkkkker is very good.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:26

I thought Panic Room was dull. My dumb blonde friend I watched it with (who expressed shock aged about 18 when she discovered that North wasn't always the direction she was facing) thought it was predictable, for God's sake.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

The bit with the thing was good though.

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:47

I am very bored. So here is my IMDB vote history. Panic Room got a six, which seems to make it better than Jurassic Park, 2001 and Pumpkin Head II: Blood Wings.

Quote:

1 - Batman & Robin (1997), Boxing Helena (1993), The Family Man (2000), Forrest Gump (1994), Romance (1999), The Wicker Man (2006)

2 - "Life on Mars" (2008), Crash (2004/I), The Hive (2008) (TV), Intermedio (2005), The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997), Rendition (2007), Street Fighter (1994)

3 - The Fog (2005) , Jaws 3-D (1983), Jurassic Park III (2001), Parenthood (1989)

4 - 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968), The Avengers (1998), Children of the Corn (1984, Friday the 13th Part VIII: Jason Takes Manhattan (1989), Friday the 13th: A New Beginning (1985), The Interpreter (2005), Jurassic Park (1993), Pumpkinhead II: Blood Wings (1994), Vera Drake (2004)

5 - Armageddon (1998/I), Barb Wire (1996), Friday the 13th Part III (1982), Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001), Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001)

6 - AVP: Alien vs. Predator (2004) , Braveheart (1995), Elf (2003), Friday the 13th Part VII: The New Blood (1988), Ghost Rider (2007), I, Robot (2004), Independence Day (1996), Nancy Drew (2007), Panic Room (2002), Scream 3 (2000), The Truman Show (1998)

7 - American Pie (1999), The Black Dahlia (2006), Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1992), Chasing Amy (1997), Dogma (1999), Friday the 13th (1980), Friday the 13th Part 2 (1981), The Fugitive (1993), The Jacket (2005), Jason Lives: Friday the 13th Part VI (1986), Leatherface: Texas Chainsaw Massacre III (1990), Magicians (2007), Men in Black (1997), The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc (1999), Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005), A Nightmare on Elm Street: The Dream Child (1989), Red Eye (2005), Scream 2 (1997), Shock Treatment (1981), Sleepy Hollow (1999), Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999), Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: The Beginning (2006), Volcano (1997), The World Is Not Enough (1999)

8 - Ôdishon (1999), 16 Blocks (2006), The Aviator (2004, Batman Returns (1992), Being John Malkovich (1999), The Big Lebowski (1998), Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey (1991), Casino Royale (2006), Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005, A Clockwork Orange (1971), Corbeau, Le (1943), Die Hard (1988), The Emperor's New Groove (2000), Freeway (1996, Friday the 13th: The Final Chapter (1984), Galaxy Quest (1999), Hannibal Rising (2007), Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back (2001), Kill Bill: Vol. 2 (2004), L.A. Confidential (1997), Laberinto del fauno, El (2006), The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse (2005), The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001), Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975), One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975), Perfume: The Story of a Murderer (2006), Saving Private Ryan (1998), Scream (1996/I), Se7en (1995), The Shawshank Redemption (1994), Shrek (2001), Slither (2006), South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (1999), Spider-Man 3 (2007), Starship Troopers (1997), Stranger Than Fiction (2006), Talladega Nights: The Ballad of Ricky Bobby (2006), Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991), Time Bandits (1981), Transformers (2007), The Usual Suspects (1995), Wallace & Gromit in The Wrong Trousers (1993), When a Stranger Calls (1979)

9 - 300 (2006), Big Fish (2003, The Bourne Ultimatum (2007), The Breakfast Club (1985, Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964), Fargo (1996), Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998), The Fifth Element (1997), Halloween (2007), The Iron Giant (1999), Jason X (2001), Labyrinth (1986), The Limey (1999), Memento (2000), Out of Sight (1998), The Prestige (2006), The Princess Bride (1987, Pulp Fiction (1994), Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981), Secretary (2002), The Silence of the Lambs (1991), The Simpsons Movie (2007), Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005), Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983), Withnail & I (1987)

10 - Bad Santa (2003), Blade Runner (1982), Brazil (1985), Dancer in the Dark (2000, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004), Fight Club (1999), The Godfather (1972), The Godfather: Part II (1974), Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008), Ju-on: The Grudge (2003), Kill Bill: Vol. 1 (2003, Moulin Rouge! (2001), Passion de Jeanne d'Arc, La (1928), Serenity (2005), Star Wars (1977), Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Twelve Monkeys (1995), Vertigo (1958)

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:54

Am I reading that correctly, and you've given Bad Santa a really high mark, Rev Owen?

If so - yay! I thought I was the only person who likes that.

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:54

CUS wrote:

Am I reading that correctly, and you've given Bad Santa a really high mark, Rev Owen?

If so - yay! I thought I was the only person who likes that.

Yes. I think it's one of the best films I've ever seen.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 10:59

I pronounce The Rev Owen as officially the best Rev! And the best Owen!

I'd quote it or something, but it's not really that sort of movie.

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:02

CUS wrote:

I pronounce The Rev Owen as officially the best Rev! And the best Owen!

I'd quote it or something, but it's not really that sort of movie.

Yeah, but I also really like Dodgeball. (I've got Harold & Kumar go to White Castle on DVD but I've never watched it.)

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:06

*raises eyebrow*

Sir, you disgust and appall me GET OUT.

Blucey · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 1811

Grim... wrote:

Alien³ was fantastic, you silly bunch

very much so. brilliant casting and some excellent lines. it's just that alien that lets it down.

really enjoyed the Director's Cut.

Good book actually. I like all the Alan Dean Foster Alien books.

I wonder if the Dark Horse comic storyline would have been better. Probably not though as it got a bit silly after Book 2. Enjoyable though.

A film of 'Aliens: Sacrifice' could have been decent.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Is there a nice easy way to get that imdb list. I disagree with you on several

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:33

Dudley wrote:

Is there a nice easy way to get that imdb list. I disagree with you on several

In your IMDB account there's a Vote History page. I had to spend a while reformatting it all after cutting and pasting, but, like I said, I was bored.

I'm now going through and voting for stuff I seem to have missed. Hadn't voted for Goodfellas or the Alien movies, for example. (Goodfellas - 10. Casino - 9. Anchorman -8. Dodgeball - 8. Zoolander - 9. Starksy and Hutch - 6. Alien - 10. Aliens - 10. Alien3 - 7. Alien Resurrection - 6.)

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

ah. I know of the history page.

Apparently my 10s of actual films are...

Carrie (1976) DVD available from Amazon On TV 10 7.4
Clue (1985) DVD available from Amazon 10 7.1
Garden State (2004) DVD available from Amazon On TV 10 7.9
Life of Brian (1979) DVD available from Amazon 10 8.2
Star Trek: First Contact (1996) DVD available from Amazon On TV 10 7.5

Not so sure about first contact a good decade on from casting that vote. The only 1 I've given is to Wolf Creek.

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Dudley wrote:

The only 1 I've given is to Wolf Creek.

A deserving choice.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:35

Dudley wrote:

Star Trek: First Contact (1996)

Really?
I'd give the most recent one an 8, and that was the best of the lot IMO.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:47

Grim... do you think that Star Trek Nemesis is the best Star Trek film?

Me, I rather liked it, even if was 2 again - it was still good. It should have done better, and stuff.

Grim... · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:50

Yeah. As discussed in the Anime thread, I like shooty-shooty more than thinky thinky.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Nemesis got a bad rap, I quite liked it.

But no, like I say I rated it when it first came out and I really liked FC then, not entirely sure why now.

A quick glance shows I failed to rate Nemesis, but I gave Wrath of Kahn and Undiscovered Country 9s, Insurrection an 8 (seems generous), Search for Spock and Generations 7, The Motion Picture a 6, Voyage Home a 4 and Final Frontier a 2.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 14:59

Grim... wrote:

Yeah. As discussed in the Anime thread, I like shooty-shooty more than thinky thinky.

That's why you're a rich conservative.

I fear where this will lead, but to follow Dudley's example:

The Undiscovered Country > Wrath of Khan > Nemesis > First Contact > Search For Spock > The Motion Picture > Insurrection > Generations > The Voyage Home > The Final Frontier

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Yes, these days I think I'd be inclined to agree totally with that list. Glad someone else sees Voyage Home for the pile of shit it is.

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

The Rev Owen wrote:

CUS wrote:

I pronounce The Rev Owen as officially the best Rev! And the best Owen!

I'd quote it or something, but it's not really that sort of movie.

Yeah, but I also really like Dodgeball. (I've got Harold & Kumar go to White Castle on DVD but I've never watched it.)

True fact - I featured in an advertisement feature for Harold & Kumar in a somewhat popular, and inaccurately titled musical magazine.

CUS · **Posted:** Mon Jun 30, 2008 15:31

Dudley wrote:

Glad someone else sees Voyage Home for the pile of shit it is.

As a kid, I found it funny and thought it special and exciting that they were on Earth! I also thought the same about the Masters of the Universe movie back then. :'(

Dr Lave · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 5979

Man I loved the Masters of the Universe film.... as a kid.

With that musical thingy. It was awesome.

RuySan · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 3542

Funny, there's a movie here in my 10 points list that i never even seen. Someone hacked my account:

"Rome" (2005) 10
"Six Feet Under" (2001) 10
Big Fish (2003) 10
The Big Lebowski (1998) 10
Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan (2006) 10
"Six Feet Under: Everyone's Waiting (#5.12)" (2005) 10
Hable con ella (2002) 10
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 10
My Little Pony: The Princess Promenade (2006) (V) 10
Ninja das Caldas, O (2002) (TV)
Requiem for a Dream (2000) 10
Siu lam juk kau (2001) 10
Star Wars (1977) 10
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 10

Darth Judo · **Joined:** 23rd Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 9

Hi,

Having completed this game the other day, I thought I'd share a few further thoughts.

To all of you still struggling through it... Don't worry, there's nothing anywhere near as frustrating as the first driving section in the rest of the game. There's one further driving bit, but it's actually quite pleasant - not too long, challenging but not frustrating. And much more forgiving of little slip-ups.

The free-roaming bit in Chapter 8 goes on far too long, and has pretty obviously been added in to lengthen the game. Having said that, it's enjoyable most of the time. The same content though, if compressed down and the padding removed, could have been a fantastic shorter segment rather than drawn out filler.

The final chapters are pretty good...unforgiving at times, but generous with the restart points.

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!

The decision not to end with a boss was unexpected, and not unwelcome, although I do wish the ending was a little more conclusive rather than blatantly setting up for a sequel.

I think the Penny Arcade guys are on the money with this one. It's frustrating and very crude in places, but it is a genuine attempt to do something different, and I'd hate to see it buried under a mountain of identikit franchise games. It's not as polished as most games, and it's got more than its fair share of rough edges, but there is a diamond in there...

myp · **Posted:** Wed Oct 01, 2008 21:04

Ok, I'm onto chapter 2 so far. My first impressions are "Fuck me, Dead Rising is less frustrating than this."

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8648

I tried playing the demo of this, but after a few minutes of 'click the right stick to blink', I decided things had gone a bit too far.

Runcle · **Posted:** Wed Oct 01, 2008 21:21

theres going to be a patch later this year that makes it less shit apparently.

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8648

That is an awesome idea for a patch.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Joans wrote:

I tried playing the demo of this, but after a few minutes of 'click the right stick to blink', I decided things had gone a bit too far.

Thankfully that stops after a couple of minutes.

Runcle · **Posted:** Wed Oct 01, 2008 21:33

Joans wrote:

That is an awesome idea for a patch.

now with added link

http://kotaku.com/5040914/yes-alone-in-the-dark-360-is-being-patched

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Alone in the Dark shares much with Test Drive Unlimited. Every time I play I discover a new reason why it's shit, but continue to really love it.

Atmosphere wise AITD is just awesome for instance.

Joans · **Joined:** 31st Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8648

Dudley wrote:

Joans wrote:

I tried playing the demo of this, but after a few minutes of 'click the right stick to blink', I decided things had gone a bit too far.

Thankfully that stops after a couple of minutes.

My patience didn't last that long.
Now I've bought a ripoff hard drive though, I may go and fill it with pointless demos.
If they get live working of course.

Dudley wrote:

Alone in the Dark shares much with Test Drive Unlimited. Every time I play I discover a new reason why it's shit, but continue to really love it.

Atmosphere wise AITD is just awesome for instance.

Ok, I may give the demo another chance.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

I assume the demo is chapter 1. If so, the entire sequence on the outside of the building is superb, turn the sound up.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Oct 01, 2008 22:06

No, it's the very beginning of chapter one, and then cuts to a bit further on.

Dudley · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 8679

Oh that's a shame. I'd have used the wall bit to show it off personally.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Oct 01, 2008 22:30

Oh, the wall where you have to abseil down and jump over the electric cable? That's in the demo.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 11:17

Fuck me, I'm about to have a pulmonary embolism due to this game - it's making me so fucking angry I want to forgive Dead Rising for all its flaws.

The Rev Owen · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 13:20

myoptika wrote:

Oh, the wall where you have to abseil down and jump over the electric cable? That's in the demo.

It's also one of the shittest things ever. That demo was awful in so many ways.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Oct 04, 2008 20:54

The game is awful in so many ways, too.

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