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Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:35 ]
Post subject:  Home made burgers

I'm looking at DrG and Craster mostly, any tips on making your own burgers? Going to make some this weekend.

Lots of online tips but wondered what you meat lovers found to be the best.

Ta

Author:  Trousers [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:41 ]
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I am better at remembering burger threads than Zardoz

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Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:42 ]
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Dunno how accessible my method is, depends on what kit you have...

I grind my own beef. I like:

50% chuck (you can just buy normal mince for this)
25% brisket
25% shortrib

No eggs, no binders, no seasoning in the meat (salt can toughen it.)

I form quarter-pound patties in a four inch ring mold (these will be pretty thick), season heavily, then cook sous vide at 55 deg C for about an hour. Sear to finish. Top with Dairylea cheese slices.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:45 ]
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I put cheese on first, and then the beans.

Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:46 ]
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Findus Fop wrote:
I put cheese on first, and then the beans.


GTFO

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:49 ]
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I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:52 ]
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Home made burger.... and oven chips :D

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:55 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Home made burger.... and oven chips :D

Yeah, I don't own a fryer so there's not much I can do.

They're the fancy ones that have beef dripping though. For oven chips, they're really good.

Author:  BikNorton [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 12:58 ]
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Slice potatoes. Dry with kitchen towel. Put in a freezer bag, season and olive oil and some paprika, cayenne, garlic powder, maybe some oregano or what have you. Roll around to get an even coating. Put on an oven tray in a 180C oven for 15 minutes, turn, cook again til done.

We use Anya mostly, split lengthways.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 13:02 ]
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BikNorton wrote:
Slice potatoes. Dry with kitchen towel. Put in a freezer bag, season and olive oil and some paprika, cayenne, garlic powder, maybe some oregano or what have you. Roll around to get an even coating. Put on an oven tray in a 180C oven for 15 minutes, turn, cook again til done.

We use Anya mostly, split lengthways.


Poor, helpless Anya.

Author:  asfish [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 13:30 ]
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What I've settled into is using some mince from here https://www.farmison.com/

I use a little olive oil to bind, but nothing else, then season.

Cooking is grill or sometimes sous vide.

No issues with oven chips, had a fryer but got sick of the mess and smell so chucked it.

Was thinking of those fryers that use air and a small amount of oil, anyone have one of those?

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 13:34 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.


Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 13:54 ]
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Yeah, but not in my timeframe. Too late now anyway...

Bought
500g lean mince (don't shout yet!)
500g Shorthorn beef mince (in reduced section so might impart some gamey element)
Dairylea slices
Brioche buns and oven bottom muffins too

At home I've some onion to dice, egg to glue it with, various mustards and spices to throw in. Heard it's best to make the pattys then leave an hour in fridge at least to help keep shape.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:16 ]
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What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

Author:  RuySan [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:19 ]
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Cras wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
I have no mincer (Trousers won't pop over) and no sous vide, but thanks Doc.

Dairylea slices on shopping list already.


Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?


:this: Do not buy packaged minced meat.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:21 ]
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I wouldn't go that far, it's certainly fine if you're making a chilli or something, but for good burgers you need more control over the mix

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:26 ]
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RuySan wrote:
Cras wrote:
Got a butcher who you can point to stuff and they'll mince it for you?


:this: Do not buy packaged minced meat.

This is pre-Brexit britain! I almost had to use Pal.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:29 ]
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Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:29 ]
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Shorthorn, heh.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:42 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.

Pff... pussy.

:hug:

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:43 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Cras wrote:
What's the fat % on those two mince types? Unless you're getting up to minimum 20% fat in the final mix you're making hockey pucks ;)

From the top of my head it's 12% on the lean and 20% on the shorthorn. So, a bit under but I have to watch my fat intake anyway because of almost dying and all that.


I'm sorry I read all that and it just said something about you being a pussy or something.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 14:46 ]
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I read your comment as a mediocre copy of DavPaz's remark.

Good day, sir.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:07 ]
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Davpaz!

o/

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:11 ]
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\O

Author:  DBSnappa [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:11 ]
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Don’t use egg to bind, it’ll make the mix too sloppy. Also, add some finely chopped green chilli and possibly a small pinch of thyme.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:17 ]
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What do you use to bind instead of egg?

I've got PVA and Epoxy.

Author:  markg [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:19 ]
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Gentlemans relish.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:25 ]
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markg wrote:
Gentlemans relish.


A new inclusion into my vocabulary.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:26 ]
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I like how it rolls off the tongue.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 06, 2017 15:27 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
markg wrote:
Gentlemans relish.


A new inclusion into my vocabulary.

Less than £3 in Sainsbury's!

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/webapp/wcs ... relish-71g

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