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Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

DavPaz wrote:
Advice please.

Say I save up some money to treat myself. What would represent the best value:

A) An HTC Vive/Occulus Rift for my existing PC (£600 ish)

B) PS4 Pro and PSVR (£350 + £450 ish = fuck me, £900, really??)

Well shit, that seems to answer my own question.

Can your existing PC do VR (there is a thing on steam to benchmark this)?

Further considerations:
Psvr may have more "proper" games. I don't know
Vive does require a few things to get the best out of it - the audio strap is a good improvement. I don't know if they still come with the rubbish cable, or the new one. There's also a wireless unit which I'm waiting to hear a report for from a friend. (he got it a few days ago) which I think is Vive only and would represent a large benefit.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:12 ]
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B, because they you get access to BEZZIE FUN TIMES.

Author:  Joans [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:14 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Advice please.

Say I save up some money to treat myself. What would represent the best value:

A) An HTC Vive/Occulus Rift for my existing PC (£600 ish)

B) PS4 Pro and PSVR (£350 + £450 ish = fuck me, £900, really??)

Well shit, that seems to answer my own question.


350 + 450 is 800, so you've just saved £100 to treat yourself to something else.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:15 ]
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I ran the Steam VR assessment tool after I got my new(ish) GFX card from Myp.

Off the top of my head it's an i5 3470 @3.2, 8GB RAM, GTX970.

I mean, it's going to be a while before I've saved up enough for either, but £900 seems like a reach for an 'inferior' setup.

The PS4 option would be better for the kids too, though. Hmmm

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:17 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
The PS4 option would mean I couldn't get near it due to the kids too

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:17 ]
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Get the PS4 for now and then the PSVR stuff the day after.

Author:  markg [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:19 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
markg wrote:
Yeah the PC thing all day long, if your PC is up to it.

If the goal is only "get VR". But the PSVR plan also gets him a PS4 Pro, which is worth considering.

Yeah good point. Also you don't actually have to get a PS4 Pro, I've got the standard one and the PSVR stuff seems great. Also I paid £300 for my PSVR so that's about £530 which is a lot less than £900.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:23 ]
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VR seems fine with my non-Pro PS4 too, and I'm not desperate to upgrade, although buying the non-Pro new today is arguably a false economy. They say it's a bit better.

I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:25 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Indeed.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:25 ]
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If you buy a new non-pro PS4 today then you’re only one step away from smashing flints together to cook dinner.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:26 ]
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I mean, obviously what I'm going to do is save up for a few months and decide then, but I'm still leaning towards PSVR in spite of the price.

Author:  BikNorton [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:30 ]
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Joans wrote:
350 + 450 is 800, so you've just saved £100 to treat yourself to something else.


BikNorton wrote:
It's still 800 not 900 though

I'm an idiot

BikNorton wrote:
Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?

230db?

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

BikNorton wrote:
It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?

Could be a collared dove.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

BikNorton wrote:
It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?


he wants to find a lady owl to make eggs with, but as it is the afternoon, he's clearly lacking the wit to woo.

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:44 ]
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This will only serve to confuse matters but: a Rift wouldn't be "about £600", the bundle of Rift + touch controllers has had a permanent price drop to £400 which is significantly less...

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

Bamba wrote:
This will only serve to confuse matters but: a Rift wouldn't be "about £600", the bundle of Rift + touch controllers has had a permanent price drop to £400 which is significantly less...

Is that right? Hmm...

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 15:50 ]
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Damn, that's a complete system as well.

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:16 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Damn, that's a complete system as well.


Yeah, it's a genuinely sweet deal if you've got a capable PC. Note that the min spec for the Rift is lower than the Vive due to some techie magic they work at a hardware level so even if your machine was going to struggle with the Vive it would (allegedly) work better with the Rift.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:17 ]
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I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

*runs away*

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:18 ]
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Would it work with a MacBook air?

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:27 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

*runs away*


Rift min spec:

  • Nvidia 960 or greater (down from Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater)
  • Intel i3-6100 / AMD FX4350 or greater (down from Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater)
  • 8GB+ RAM (same)
  • Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output (same)
  • 1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 (change from 2x USB 3.0 ports)
  • Windows 8 or newer (change from Windows 7 SP1 or newer)

Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:28 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Would it work with a MacBook air?


I really hope you're joking, but just in case you're not:

Ahahahahahahaha. No.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:28 ]
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Yeah, but the jaggies.

Author:  devilman [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:34 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
I thought an i5 would struggle with VR wouldn’t it? You need an i7 upwards init?

*runs away*


Rift min spec:

  • Nvidia 960 or greater (down from Nvidia GTX 970 / AMD 290 equivalent or greater)
  • Intel i3-6100 / AMD FX4350 or greater (down from Intel i5-4590 equivalent or greater)
  • 8GB+ RAM (same)
  • Compatible HDMI 1.3 video output (same)
  • 1x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0 (change from 2x USB 3.0 ports)
  • Windows 8 or newer (change from Windows 7 SP1 or newer)


There's a compatibility tool too. I just ran it on mine out of curiosity and mine fails on the graphics card, which wasn't a great surprise, as I only have a GT 730.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:36 ]
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My PC passed the VR compatibility test. No jaggies

Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 16:56 ]
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970 is fine for VR. The only reason I upgraded to 1070 was that iRacing was an unoptimised mess for VR initially. The 1070 barely made a difference. :D

Author:  Joans [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

DavPaz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Indeed.

Mine was £400, including technodicks, on prime day, so presumably black Friday will throw up something similar.

Also, apparently I spent £400 on PSVR, I should play it more.

Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:24 ]
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I should have a look at this VR test thing. Whereabouts is it?

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:26 ]
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Linked by DM above

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:28 ]
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Bamba wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Would it work with a MacBook air?


I really hope you're joking, but just in case you're not:

Ahahahahahahaha. No.


I dunno, do I? It's a computer.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:39 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
970 is fine for VR. The only reason I upgraded to 1070 was to have something Better than Mr Dave

Bast.

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 17:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

Joans wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
I suspect he's factoring the price of a couple of Technodicks in his £450 quote, which is sensible. You probably want those.

Indeed.

Mine was £400, including technodicks, on prime day, so presumably black Friday will throw up something similar.

Mine was free.

</smug>

Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Nov 10, 2017 18:39 ]
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Made me chuckle.

Author:  MaliA [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 18:16 ]
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MrsA, Gork and Mork are away. Old Man Afterthought came up last night and we had beers annacurry. This morning it was waffles and bacon for breakfast, and we sorted the garage out and i burnt furniture for seven hours after smashing it with a hatchet. He's gone back Kernow now (7 hour trip) and I am having a beer (hipster lager from Cloudwater) and reading a book in the micropub. Today has been good. I miss this.

Author:  TheVision [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 21:15 ]
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Just met Harry Hill!

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 21:17 ]
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Noice. Did you film him?

Author:  TheVision [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 21:52 ]
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I did indeed.. Straight into my show reel!

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 22:11 ]
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Hey, top celebing!

Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 22:17 ]
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Did he sexually assault you sexually?

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:10 ]
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GnR headlining Download this year.

Author:  Kern [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:16 ]
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TheVision wrote:
Just met Harry Hill!


Excellent!

Author:  MrChris [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 18:57 ]
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Back in Heathrow again...

Author:  Warhead [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 20:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: Bits and Bobs 49

MaliA wrote:
BikNorton wrote:
It's still 800 not 900 though

Why is there an owl hooting at 230 in the afternoon?


he wants to find a lady owl to make eggs with, but as it is the afternoon, he's clearly lacking the wit to woo.


:DD Can’t believe no one else picked up on this. 100 bananas.

Author:  MrChris [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 20:33 ]
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:D

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 23:22 ]
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Joan's tells me it's nine years today since Shunt.

Nine years!

Author:  Cras [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 0:44 ]
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Bloody hell

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:00 ]
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Thanks! I nearly forgot my wedding anniversary!

Author:  GazChap [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:04 ]
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Yeah, I got a "memory" about that on Facebook this morning. Amazing.

Author:  Malc [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:31 ]
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Tomorrow, by my calculations, is the 22nd anniversary of the first date with my wife.

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